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Post by aggiebug on Aug 30, 2017 14:02:06 GMT -6
dashook I understand your thoughts and I can see the problem you have with taking the calf. If it helps they are kept in the same property and generally the mom never is stressed about the separation. And I say on the same property to emphasize they can smell but often not see their calves and it does not impact them, they don't bawl they don't pace they don't get lathered. Dairy cows generally aren't maternal like beef cattle, I mean don't take a baby from a Brahman you get hurt. Also they are hooked up to the machines for generally 2 or 3 10minute sessions a day and are out to pasture for most of their life. They don't even have to heard them back in the cows literally line up at the door to get into the parlor and be milked. Yeah I understand why you feel like that about me. It's my fault I have never felt really engaged in this group for many reasons. I don't know why I stick around, but I do on the periphery never feeling like I can step in more and it doesn't help. Whatever. I guess it's a case of you don't know me but that is in large part on me. Also on the chicken subject I have learned some interesting tidbits that would correct some of the info I gave on temps since then. Pretty cool stuff but that is a different subject, different thread and a dead subject. So I'll leave it at that but yeah I admit when I'm wrong and happy to learn.
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Post by flamingo on Aug 30, 2017 14:11:14 GMT -6
The quote to take it down and hail it was $750. I joked around with H saying I should just do it myself. He pretty much told me it was much harder than it looked to do and that I should just let someone else do it. Shots fired. I'm such a stubborn ass. That tree was coming down even if I had to blow it up after that comment. Damn, girl. You are a BA and I want you on my team in the event of an apocalypse or something. Also, I'm with you on the tree bills. We had two scrappy trees come partially down in a hurricane last year. Roughly $2k to have them finished off, cut up and hauled away. Ugh.
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Post by flamingo on Aug 30, 2017 14:17:37 GMT -6
I am having wine, Brie, crackers and grapes and reading Liane Moriarty's latest while DH takes the kids out.
How do I make this happen every single day?
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Post by dashook on Aug 30, 2017 14:19:43 GMT -6
I am having wine, Brie, crackers and grapes and reading Liane Moriarty's latest while DH takes the kids out. How do I make this happen every single day? Idk but when you figure it out, please share with the class!
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Post by starbuck on Aug 30, 2017 15:07:59 GMT -6
I am very YDY on the whole omnivore/vegetarian/vegan/pescatarian/meatasaurus/whatever thing. Eat what makes you feel good and I will KOKO. N16 GTG will have some vegan options for dinner.
I did know a really judgey vegan who was always in your fave about it. "DO YOU KNOW HOW GROSS THAT CHICKEN IS? I'VE DONE STUDIES" type of lady. Then one day I heard her talking about how she was going to make shrimp. I was like, wait, aren't you vegan? And she was like ya but...shrimp are so delicious. I laughed right in her face.
But then there's a lot of non vegans who hear the word vegan and start being turds.
So basically. Everyone's an asshole. What else is new.
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Post by danib on Aug 30, 2017 15:12:02 GMT -6
So DH is leaving again tomorrow. I may be having a small panic attack. Normally his days home I get to relax. But this week (10 days) has been soooooo busy. We literally haven't stopped. And H has been so fussy and sleeping/napping like crap. Today he has just been clinging and crying. All day. I actually lost my patience and snapped at C this evening. I do not feel refreshed. I already feel near the end of my rope and he hasn't even left yet. This is going to be a long 3 weeks.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 30, 2017 15:13:37 GMT -6
I still feel like labor > early postpartum.
Like being there with my sister and watching her go thru it all. And then today they are fucking exhausted and kind of shell shocked and trying to mentally work thru what the fuck just happened. I remember that shit and DNW. I would give labor a second time rather than deal with postpartum recovery.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 30, 2017 15:30:15 GMT -6
Yeah I understand why you feel like that about me. It's my fault I have never felt really engaged in this group for many reasons. I don't know why I stick around, but I do on the periphery never feeling like I can step in more and it doesn't help. Whatever. I guess it's a case of you don't know me but that is in large part on me. I wish you didn't feel this way. There are strong opinions (I mean obviously) on these kinds of issues for sure, but long term, no1curr about these debates. You're someone we love.
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Post by dashook on Aug 30, 2017 15:31:55 GMT -6
Yeah I understand why you feel like that about me. It's my fault I have never felt really engaged in this group for many reasons. I don't know why I stick around, but I do on the periphery never feeling like I can step in more and it doesn't help. Whatever. I guess it's a case of you don't know me but that is in large part on me. I wish you didn't feel this way. There are strong opinions (I mean obviously) on these kinds of issues for sure, but long term, no1curr about these debates. You're someone we love. +1 to this.
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Post by goldenlove on Aug 30, 2017 16:02:08 GMT -6
I still feel like labor > early postpartum. Like being there with my sister and watching her go thru it all. And then today they are fucking exhausted and kind of shell shocked and trying to mentally work thru what the fuck just happened. I remember that shit and DNW. I would give labor a second time rather than deal with postpartum recovery. I don't have very good memories of either TBH. I hated labor, especially once I got an epidural and couldn't get out of bed for practically a whole day. That was my worst nightmare.
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Post by waitwhat on Aug 30, 2017 16:16:44 GMT -6
I am very YDY on the whole omnivore/vegetarian/vegan/pescatarian/meatasaurus/whatever thing. Eat what makes you feel good and I will KOKO. N16 GTG will have some vegan options for dinner. I did know a really judgey vegan who was always in your fave about it. "DO YOU KNOW HOW GROSS THAT CHICKEN IS? I'VE DONE STUDIES" type of lady. Then one day I heard her talking about how she was going to make shrimp. I was like, wait, aren't you vegan? And she was like ya but...shrimp are so delicious. I laughed right in her face. But then there's a lot of non vegans who hear the word vegan and start being turds. So basically. Everyone's an asshole. What else is new. SO TRUE. ILY
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Post by danib on Aug 30, 2017 16:32:06 GMT -6
I still feel like labor > early postpartum. Like being there with my sister and watching her go thru it all. And then today they are fucking exhausted and kind of shell shocked and trying to mentally work thru what the fuck just happened. I remember that shit and DNW. I would give labor a second time rather than deal with postpartum recovery. I don't have very good memories of either TBH. I hated labor, especially once I got an epidural and couldn't get out of bed for practically a whole day. That was my worst nightmare. Ya I'm pretty conflicted here. My very good friend (who is a mental health nurse) told me she thinks I have PTSD from H's birth. She might be right, if I'm being 100% honest.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 30, 2017 16:55:49 GMT -6
I don't have very good memories of either TBH. I hated labor, especially once I got an epidural and couldn't get out of bed for practically a whole day. That was my worst nightmare. Ya I'm pretty conflicted here. My very good friend (who is a mental health nurse) told me she thinks I have PTSD from H's birth. She might be right, if I'm being 100% honest. ::HUGS:: Love you, friend.
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Post by kleigh on Aug 30, 2017 17:02:58 GMT -6
I still feel like labor > early postpartum. Like being there with my sister and watching her go thru it all. And then today they are fucking exhausted and kind of shell shocked and trying to mentally work thru what the fuck just happened. I remember that shit and DNW. I would give labor a second time rather than deal with postpartum recovery. I actually miss both. I must've been on some high class drugs or something.
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Post by hangry on Aug 30, 2017 17:16:24 GMT -6
My ranking order best to worst
Post partum #2 Labor/ birth #2 Labor/ birth #1 Post partum #1
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Post by waitwhat on Aug 30, 2017 17:42:46 GMT -6
My ranking from best to worst
Postpartum #2 Labor/birth #1 Postpartum #1 Labor/birth #2
^^a huge reason why there most likely won't be a #3
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Post by danib on Aug 30, 2017 17:58:11 GMT -6
Postpartum after C was pretty amazing. There were stressors obviously, but I think it was pretty much as good as you can hope for. Labour with C was LONG AS FUCK. But it wasn't horribly painful until the last few hours of holding out on the epidural. His birth was perfect. Like we were laughing and talking between pushes.
H, complete other story. Labour was significantly shorter (thank heavens). It started sooo good. But things progressed so fast there at the end (after being stalled for so long) that no one believed me. I legit thought he was going to be born with no one in the room (and that very nearly happened only for I lied to the nurse and said I had to poop). Then when he wasn't breathing and the NICU team came running, and DH hadn't even met him yet. Postpartum I was so afraid he would stop breathing again. Then a full week stuck in the hospital, trying to get him healthy enough to come home. And feeling so guilty that I didn't know how to make him happy like I did with C.
It's actually mind-boggling how different the two experiences can be. Especially when you consider the second time around should be easier because you "know what to expect".
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Post by waitwhat on Aug 30, 2017 18:17:41 GMT -6
danib exactly. I had two c sections and they couldn't have been more different. The second being the worst by far. You would think it would have been easier.
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Post by dashook on Aug 30, 2017 18:23:08 GMT -6
My ranking order best to worst Post partum #2 Labor/ birth #2 Labor/ birth #1 Post partum #1 This is my same ranking exactly.
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Post by tgrimes on Aug 30, 2017 18:29:42 GMT -6
My ranking order best to worst Post partum #2 Labor/ birth #2 Labor/ birth #1 Post partum #1 This is my same ranking exactly. Mine too.
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Post by waitwhat on Aug 30, 2017 18:38:22 GMT -6
I had this whole thing typed out about how J's sleep suddenly became so sucky but decided to delete it and go drink my face off instead.
I'll probably regret this decision tomorrow. Oh well.
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Post by Cheshie6 on Aug 30, 2017 18:40:31 GMT -6
Spent today researching for NFL fantasy drafts... and getting stuff ready for Hawaii! Draft 1 is done, draft 2 for HIH is tomorrow. L wanted to help!
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Post by goldenlove on Aug 30, 2017 19:01:29 GMT -6
*HUG* danib That is so scary. So I've never actually been diagnosed but I think I might have a bit of claustrophobia or anxiety. I've had reactions over the years like on an airplane a couple times or in a tent. I have physical reactions if I see someone on TV trapped or tied up. Stories of people being mentally trapped inside their own bodies are my worst nightmare. So when I got the epidural at the end of day 1, I still had a loooong way to go. They pretty much cranked up the pitocin and told me to sleep as much as possible. They put some massaging things on my calves, covered me in blankets and then put an oxygen mask on my face. It was pure hell. Hearing stories from friends who had fast second labors is the only reason I'm willing to do it again. I know it's not guaranteed but I have to hold on to something.
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Post by goldenlove on Aug 30, 2017 19:07:27 GMT -6
waitwhat Enjoy your drink! Hope that kid goes to sleep. Cheshie6 Adorable! When is Hawaii? I'm so jealous. I want to go really bad.
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Post by danib on Aug 30, 2017 19:11:19 GMT -6
goldenlove I'm not sure if there are different kinds of epidurals, but I could still move with both of mine. I was a little sluggish for sure, but I could absolutely move around in the bed. Perhaps that's something to look into next time around?
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Post by goldenlove on Aug 30, 2017 19:16:27 GMT -6
goldenlove I'm not sure if there are different kinds of epidurals, but I could still move with both of mine. I was a little sluggish for sure, but I could absolutely move around in the bed. Perhaps that's something to look into next time around? Yea I could move my top half and roll from side to side or sit up but that was about it. Obviously I couldn't get out of bed. Amd it was everything else that made it really bad.
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Post by Cheshie6 on Aug 30, 2017 20:07:52 GMT -6
flamingo, L will be a lobster... depending on weather and availability, I'll be Ariel and DH Eric, but if not.... we'll be chefs and L will be in a pot! Lol +1000 to not being able to go vegan, unless bacon 🥓 is considered a vegetable! Lol I can and should go without milk but I found it cumbersome! Cereal was designed for the texture and consistency of milk and I haven't found a suitable substitute though cashew milk is the closest I've found. I tried going vegan but couldn't get enough iron (I am already borderline anemic with eating meat) and then tried vegetarian but still no dice! I loved it but I was tired all the time. To be fair, I avoided a lot of tofu/soy due to a breast cancer in my family but not the gene, so that didn't help. kleigh, there are meatless Mondays recipes on Pinterest... I'd start there! danib, I'm sorry you're stressed! aggiebug, I think we all have our soapbox, topic! Zoos and Aquariums are mine. I worked for several and am very opinionated on them. I won't go to certain zoos or aquariums for various reasons. Some of us won't go to any. That doesn't mean you don't belong with us. Don't even get me started on blackfish and seaworld... I will say if you're not willing to boycott everything Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser, Bud light, shock top, Miller, Michelob, Rolling Rock to name a few beers) just boycotting Seaworld won't do much! It makes me sad that you feel you don't belong! goldenlove, we leave Sunday! 😁🏖
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Post by waitwhat on Aug 30, 2017 20:34:08 GMT -6
goldenlove I am claustrophobic to a certain degree. Will not take an elevator. Will not shut the door in a small room. Do not like small airplanes. Do not like a pillow or blanket held over my face (my brother used to do this as a joke when we were little). When I had the csection for J, I hated the feeling of my lower half being completely numb to the point of paralyzation. I felt like I couldn't escape and I was super anxious about it. I didn't get that feeling the first time around, which was weird. But I remember it as clear as day the second. Hugs girl.
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Post by flamingo on Aug 30, 2017 20:36:57 GMT -6
Cheshie6 That is cute! I always admire the families that dress up in theme. We are...not one of those. I jokingly asked DH what his "vision" was for Halloween this year and he just cringed, haha. As it turns out, he will be out of town for work so I'll be Halloween'ing it solo! I saw this pic today while I was Pinteresting and it's probably the one costume I could ever get my H into. It would be freaking hilarious, though!
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Post by aggiebug on Aug 30, 2017 20:39:58 GMT -6
Oh gosh I didn't mean what said to make anyone take pity. I own what I am passionate about and I am perfectly comfortable discussing it passionately in any setting. I just acknowledge that it is kind of all I am around here and it can make it hard to take.
My comments were on the fact that I don't feel like I can.. Engage.. connect.. let go...much here, so you just see a small sliver of me and it can be tiresome. It's like the person who just comes on a forum and complains they probably don't always complain but when it's all you see it's tiresome.
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