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Post by beesquared on Jun 17, 2024 11:15:39 GMT -6
Also it’s been a big thing because Meghan didn’t wish Harry one. Which of course is fuel to those who have been campaigning that their kids are fake On what social media, lol?! If they used their business IG or foundation to post people would be up in arms. But what do I know, I didn't post about my husband or father on social media either.
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Post by beesquared on Jun 17, 2024 11:16:56 GMT -6
New social media person (team)? As long as we don't get anymore drone footage, I am happy. It's so over the top.
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Post by Eagles on Jun 17, 2024 11:19:51 GMT -6
So are people pissed she looks good or what's being said on the conspiracy end I have mostly seen it fuel the "she doesn't really have cancer" stuff and that it was an excuse to cover her time away for various other reasons. I have always been clear that I don't need specifics of her illness, but that the way it has been handled from a PR perspective was bad. If she is looking this "normal" they could really have shut some of the worst rumors down at any point and instead just get making things worse at every opportunity. She is a publicly funded figure, so I feel she has more obligation to be transparent than a celebrity who disappears for 6 months. I am still on the train of thought that she had surgery for something and pre-cancerous cells were found in her pathophysiology labs after the fact. I think she has no desire to be working in public anyway and this was seemed like a good get out of jail free card for her. I don't think it accomplished what they hoped it would. Just say you think she's lying about cancer and chemo.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 17, 2024 12:04:15 GMT -6
Also it’s been a big thing because Meghan didn’t wish Harry one. Which of course is fuel to those who have been campaigning that their kids are fake People just want to believe that because Kate isn't dead. They aren't happy if there isn't a conspiracy somewhere! I love the new pictures. I wish the kids wore some other color besides blue. Is there a reason they are almost always in blue? The picture of William, he is in blue as well. The theory has been going on since Archie was born
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Post by beesquared on Jun 17, 2024 12:13:21 GMT -6
I absolutely think they found pre-cancerous or cancerous cells during her surgery. I don't think its the main motivator for her absence. Especially since she had been gone from public view for 3 months before her surgery. From a medical standpoint, I think they found abnormalities in her tissue that could/would lead to cancer in the future and are preventatively treating that, but I don't think that was why she had surgery in the first place.
Frankly, neither Will nor Kate have ever embraced being a full time working royal in the way the previous generations have. They have always had an excuse for why they needed more time away. It only became an issue when Harry and Meghan couldn't be allowed to have any space and they didn't want to admit bias against them. Kate's going to drag this out as long as she can.
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Post by byjove on Jun 17, 2024 12:15:12 GMT -6
I have mostly seen it fuel the "she doesn't really have cancer" stuff and that it was an excuse to cover her time away for various other reasons. I have always been clear that I don't need specifics of her illness, but that the way it has been handled from a PR perspective was bad. If she is looking this "normal" they could really have shut some of the worst rumors down at any point and instead just get making things worse at every opportunity. She is a publicly funded figure, so I feel she has more obligation to be transparent than a celebrity who disappears for 6 months. I am still on the train of thought that she had surgery for something and pre-cancerous cells were found in her pathophysiology labs after the fact. I think she has no desire to be working in public anyway and this was seemed like a good get out of jail free card for her. I don't think it accomplished what they hoped it would. Just say you think she's lying about cancer and chemo. Not to speak for beesquared, but I feel similarly and it isn't that I don't think she has/had cancer (honestly, it was great surprise to see her looking so well!), but something else has been going on for the last 6 months. They are lying about/hiding something.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 17, 2024 12:20:24 GMT -6
Just say you think she's lying about cancer and chemo. Not to speak for beesquared, but I feel similarly and it isn't that I don't think she has/had cancer (honestly, it was great surprise to see her looking so well!), but something else has been going on for the last 6 months. They are lying about/hiding something. Same I think something else happened that caused her to end up in the hospital and have surgery where they found something pre cancerous or something and are doing some kind of treatment now. I don’t think this has been the whole truth and I do think something else deep down is going on. I think they came out with the cancer story because it’s part of the story and the part that people won’t question as much.
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Post by frlcb on Jun 17, 2024 13:02:10 GMT -6
People just want to believe that because Kate isn't dead. They aren't happy if there isn't a conspiracy somewhere! I love the new pictures. I wish the kids wore some other color besides blue. Is there a reason they are almost always in blue? The picture of William, he is in blue as well. The theory has been going on since Archie was born I’m aware. But I still believe people want to believe anything scandalous about this family and now that Kate is alive they will hop back on that ridiculous bandwagon.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 17, 2024 13:05:10 GMT -6
The theory has been going on since Archie was born I’m aware. But I still believe people want to believe anything scandalous about this family and now that Kate is alive they will hop back on that ridiculous bandwagon. I love you for thinking that but I think 1/10 of the. people throwing this around is doing it because they love a scandal And the Kate conspiracy theory is not gone. They have a road ahead of them fixing their mess
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 17, 2024 13:44:16 GMT -6
Haha the reason I asked that originally is because I knew it was going to be that she was lying about cancer.
Idk guys. I hate feeling like I have to constantly stand up for Kate because I don't actually like any of them that much, but truly no one is ever happy.
People wanted to see her for months, and now she looks too good so they've been lying. First she was dead or in a coma and now she never had cancer. It's just a lot
I know this is going to be unpopular
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Post by tdskaterfan on Jun 17, 2024 13:51:35 GMT -6
I absolutely think they found pre-cancerous or cancerous cells during her surgery. I don't think its the main motivator for her absence. Especially since she had been gone from public view for 3 months before her surgery. From a medical standpoint, I think they found abnormalities in her tissue that could/would lead to cancer in the future and are preventatively treating that, but I don't think that was why she had surgery in the first place. She was last seen in public on Christmas Day. Her surgery was January 16. The day they announced her surgery, they said it was an abdominal surgery that would take weeks to recover from and she would be out of view until at least Easter (March 31). Prince William's very last minute cancellation of his godfather's memorial service (speculated to be when the testing results from her surgery came back) was February 27. Catherine announced her dx March 22 and per her statement had already begun treatment. She was not out of public view for 3 months before her surgery.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 17, 2024 13:58:36 GMT -6
Haha the reason I asked that originally is because I knew it was going to be that she was lying about cancer. Idk guys. I hate feeling like I have to constantly stand up for Kate because I don't actually like any of them that much, but truly no one is ever happy. People wanted to see her for months, and now she looks too good so they've been lying. First she was dead or in a coma and now she never had cancer. It's just a lot I know this is going to be unpopular But I ask again why is Kate exempt from people questioning things when we have seen the lie time and time again during this? And many of us in this thread have said that cancer is probably a portion of what is going on
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Post by STP on Jun 17, 2024 14:51:08 GMT -6
I have mostly seen it fuel the "she doesn't really have cancer" stuff and that it was an excuse to cover her time away for various other reasons. I have always been clear that I don't need specifics of her illness, but that the way it has been handled from a PR perspective was bad. If she is looking this "normal" they could really have shut some of the worst rumors down at any point and instead just get making things worse at every opportunity. She is a publicly funded figure, so I feel she has more obligation to be transparent than a celebrity who disappears for 6 months. I am still on the train of thought that she had surgery for something and pre-cancerous cells were found in her pathophysiology labs after the fact. I think she has no desire to be working in public anyway and this was seemed like a good get out of jail free card for her. I don't think it accomplished what they hoped it would. Just say you think she's lying about cancer and chemo. I didn't get that from her statement at all. That's also not who beesquared is.
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Post by STP on Jun 17, 2024 14:54:21 GMT -6
Haha the reason I asked that originally is because I knew it was going to be that she was lying about cancer. Idk guys. I hate feeling like I have to constantly stand up for Kate because I don't actually like any of them that much, but truly no one is ever happy. People wanted to see her for months, and now she looks too good so they've been lying. First she was dead or in a coma and now she never had cancer. It's just a lot I know this is going to be unpopular FFS All I saw in this thread was "she looks really pretty, I like that dress." The weird jump to "you're saying she's lying about cancer" is really something. No one said that. None of us actually know these people, or know what's going on. This is a gossip thread. And they handled this absurdly, and that's all anyone is talking about.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 17, 2024 15:07:49 GMT -6
Haha the reason I asked that originally is because I knew it was going to be that she was lying about cancer. Idk guys. I hate feeling like I have to constantly stand up for Kate because I don't actually like any of them that much, but truly no one is ever happy. People wanted to see her for months, and now she looks too good so they've been lying. First she was dead or in a coma and now she never had cancer. It's just a lot I know this is going to be unpopular FFS All I saw in this thread was "she looks really pretty, I like that dress." The weird jump to "you're saying she's lying about cancer" is really something. No one said that. None of us actually know these people, or know what's going on. This is a gossip thread. And they handled this absurdly, and that's all anyone is talking about. They have been caught in lie after lie since January people would be silly to not question them a little. ETA: and yes my posts about her were that I hate that they made her go out there to make them look good
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Post by jett on Jun 17, 2024 22:14:28 GMT -6
Is there any appetite for a monthly thread about what the royals wear and a separate thread for the never-ending baseless speculation about their lives? No? Just me?
This shit is exhausting, and sucks all the fun out of looking at expensive clothes and pretty tiaras.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 18, 2024 5:48:22 GMT -6
Is there any appetite for a monthly thread about what the royals wear and a separate thread for the never-ending baseless speculation about their lives? No? Just me? This shit is exhausting, and sucks all the fun out of looking at expensive clothes and pretty tiaras. Make whatever thread you want
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Post by angelashly on Jun 18, 2024 5:51:38 GMT -6
I will say it again it both saddens and amazes me that any time this thread questions or talks in a not great light about Kate it’s exhausting
This thread has been going since Harry and Meghan and got big around their wedding. We have speculated about Charles, Camilla, Meghan, Harry, Diana, Letizia hell even Maxima but Kate nope it’s exhausting and we need to only talk about clothing.
They aren’t even working right now to look at said clothes
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Post by armpants on Jun 18, 2024 7:28:32 GMT -6
Personally I don’t want to just focus on the pretty parts. I very much appreciate the levels of discussion we’ve had here on topics from the causes they support, mental health, micro aggressions, blatant racism, and keeping a reminder of why these people have the privilege they do. We get things right and wrong just like any discussion, but I don’t want to limit the scope.
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 18, 2024 7:41:24 GMT -6
Haha the reason I asked that originally is because I knew it was going to be that she was lying about cancer. Idk guys. I hate feeling like I have to constantly stand up for Kate because I don't actually like any of them that much, but truly no one is ever happy. People wanted to see her for months, and now she looks too good so they've been lying. First she was dead or in a coma and now she never had cancer. It's just a lot I know this is going to be unpopular FFS All I saw in this thread was "she looks really pretty, I like that dress." The weird jump to "you're saying she's lying about cancer" is really something. No one said that. None of us actually know these people, or know what's going on. This is a gossip thread. And they handled this absurdly, and that's all anyone is talking about. I mean okay. I read things differently
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Post by angelashly on Jun 18, 2024 7:44:01 GMT -6
FFS All I saw in this thread was "she looks really pretty, I like that dress." The weird jump to "you're saying she's lying about cancer" is really something. No one said that. None of us actually know these people, or know what's going on. This is a gossip thread. And they handled this absurdly, and that's all anyone is talking about. I mean okay. I read things differently Not to use the dreaded phrase But genuinely how since her first sentence says she believes they could pre cancerous or cancerous cells
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Post by icedcoffee on Jun 18, 2024 7:45:19 GMT -6
Haha the reason I asked that originally is because I knew it was going to be that she was lying about cancer. Idk guys. I hate feeling like I have to constantly stand up for Kate because I don't actually like any of them that much, but truly no one is ever happy. People wanted to see her for months, and now she looks too good so they've been lying. First she was dead or in a coma and now she never had cancer. It's just a lot I know this is going to be unpopular But I ask again why is Kate exempt from people questioning things when we have seen the lie time and time again during this? And many of us in this thread have said that cancer is probably a portion of what is going on I have never once said Kate is exempt from questioning. I wish that would stop being said. eta it doesn't matter. I don't want to argue about it anymore. I was annoyed when I wrote that and now I don't care anymore lol
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Post by adelbert on Jun 18, 2024 7:48:14 GMT -6
Is there any appetite for a monthly thread about what the royals wear and a separate thread for the never-ending baseless speculation about their lives? No? Just me? This shit is exhausting, and sucks all the fun out of looking at expensive clothes and pretty tiaras. You can absolutely post royal fashion here! Go for it! I find most of the looks so dull considering their budgets, teams, and access to designers but we're always happy to chat about fashion.
There is room on this thread for all of it.
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Jun 18, 2024 7:57:15 GMT -6
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Post by angelashly on Jun 18, 2024 8:12:13 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Jun 18, 2024 8:21:18 GMT -6
Huh. I'm sort of surprised to see Lady Gabriella in Anne's carriage.
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Post by angelashly on Jun 18, 2024 8:22:50 GMT -6
But I ask again why is Kate exempt from people questioning things when we have seen the lie time and time again during this? And many of us in this thread have said that cancer is probably a portion of what is going on I have never once said Kate is exempt from questioning. I wish that would stop being said. eta it doesn't matter. I don't want to argue about it anymore. I was annoyed when I wrote that and now I don't care anymore lol Well like you said I read it as omg stop questioning her she doesn’t deserve it. It’s been said many times why people are skeptical about the whole story and the family brought that on themselves with the lies. No one said anyone can’t have other opinions and I stepped away from the thread before because every time I went against Kate or anything it was because I was to pro Meghan and I was exhausting so I don’t want to do that again but it’s just frustrating to me
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Post by angelashly on Jun 18, 2024 8:24:41 GMT -6
Huh. I'm sort of surprised to see Lady Gabriella in Anne's carriage.
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Post by elle on Jun 18, 2024 8:40:59 GMT -6
Early FFFC or FFTC if you will: I know it's wrong to judge people by their parents but I can't help disliking Princess Michael of Kent's daughter (Lady Gabriella). I can only think she's as terrible as her mother. Like, Princess Michael is so so horrible with seemingly no redeeming qualities, how could that not rub off on her children?
I do feel sympathy for her regarding the loss of her husband though.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jun 18, 2024 8:52:36 GMT -6
That blue suits Camilla. See, I can say something positive about her.
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