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Post by thestranger on Jul 27, 2023 11:33:51 GMT -6
I don’t really go here, but this isn’t exactly a fair statement. Yes admin do this in their spare time, but let’s not forget that it was a choice they made, and not without knowing the backgrounds of how some relationships go here, this has been watered down like a thousand times since TB days, and even then people clamoured to be unpaid moderators there too, everyone knows how this goes. Where do you go? Nowhere really.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:34:45 GMT -6
She didn't curse you out or name call you even after you called her a moron and not bright. This is rich. You lecturing people on this when you are a repeat offender. I am not lecturing anyone. To lecture means an educational talk, to give instruction. I am not doing either. I am pointing out bullshit. You, my dear would be right there next to me as a repeat offender. Let us be clear on that. Now, for the not bright - and that seems to be ok to say about people here - the topic is not me. The topic is not you.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:38:26 GMT -6
The thing is, if I found it nasty, that's all that matters. It's immaterial if anyone else agrees. She could have said "you're swell and pretty" and if I replied don't PM me, that's it. I made it clear that I did not wish to be contacted by PM by her, and that if she did, I would continue the conversation publicly bc I didn't trust her. I know the entertainment capital is wearing off quickly, so I apologize, but that's all there is to it for me. Another back pedal - at this point it's back stroke Now it's I found it nasty, that's all that matters.
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 27, 2023 11:39:40 GMT -6
All of the issues mentioned are done by many people here and often. This way of talking to people in disagreements has been going on since TB. It's not limited to STP or anyone else. It's entrenched deep within the board culture. I'm not saying I agree with it, I don't. I'm also not saying I'm perfect because I'm sure I've fallen into name calling in the past and hyperbole. Maybe this is something that should be a bigger discussion of how everyone would like to see the board function as a whole. I haven't really been around much though so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.
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Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Jul 27, 2023 11:39:52 GMT -6
Are you one of the aliens? Be honest.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:40:12 GMT -6
But without that- then we have the narrative of a nasty PM. Let’s be real here. You a long time loved poster bs barely tolerated Philo- she has to come with receipts. Otherwise she’s then added to the troll who sends nasty PM list I told her not to PM me at all. Her choice to do so again. That also wasn’t the whole thing. PO's post is asking about the nasty pm The response was to deflect.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:42:10 GMT -6
The word nasty was not uttered before she violated TOU. She did that before I shockingly accused her of being nasty. Which she was. And not why she was banned. Then there was this falsehood. You didn't utter nasty until after she violated TOU. This thread page 1, post 1 proves that was a lie. The post you made in the blinds to philo proves that as well as you said nasty pm there too.
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Post by AmyG on Jul 27, 2023 11:44:42 GMT -6
Are you one of the aliens? Be honest. All of us are at least part alien. Some of us hide it better than others
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 11:44:55 GMT -6
This is rich. You lecturing people on this when you are a repeat offender. I am not lecturing anyone. To lecture means an educational talk, to give instruction. I am not doing either. I am pointing out bullshit. You, my dear would be right there next to me as a repeat offender. Let us be clear on that. Now, for the not bright - and that seems to be ok to say about people here - the topic is not me. The topic is not you. Fine. Preaching.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:45:24 GMT -6
You said nasty on page 1, post 1. 🤔 Mea culpa. She still violated TOU. And for someone who was screaming that she needed a "virtual restraining order," it's interesting that you constantly engage with me when I haven't said boo to you in quite some time. Then the mea culpa when called on your lie. Also to be clear - any mention of a virtual restraining order needed for you was in jest.
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Post by thestranger on Jul 27, 2023 11:48:08 GMT -6
Are you one of the aliens? Be honest.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:49:11 GMT -6
Scout could have started a thread on not PM me anymore without saying she got a nasty message. Yes and I admitted that hours ago. Well before you wandered in. I’m sorry I don’t always act perfectly when taken aback, of course. Then the admission - So why today, are you digging in on nasty again? Also let me point out - taken aback from March of 2022 insert eye roll.
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 11:52:53 GMT -6
McBenny , friend, I definitely see your train of thought in all of this. IMO it seems she embellished to get people riled up. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, who knows. But you know this is just going to end up with people jumping on you for going on about it.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 11:55:20 GMT -6
Folks are putting a great deal more thought into it than I did in the moment.
It isn't likely to you all that I'm just an asshole who posted thoughtlessly bc I got my feelings hurt?
Which is an established pattern with me?
The PM was sent at 12:08, and I made this thread at 12:15.
I'm flattered but I'm not that quick with my take down plans. I was just pissed off.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 11:58:02 GMT -6
McBenny , friends, I definitely see your train of thought in all of this. IMO it seems she embellished to get people riled up. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, who knows. But you know this is just going to end up with people jumping on you for going on about it. Honesty question bc you've been measured in here - you think nasty is not an appropriate adjective to say when someone sends you what she did, when you're not interacting otherwise and there was nothing else happening? Literally you're talking to Cher about Kristin Bell and you that PM from someone who wasn't even in the conversation with you. Not on the board, but in a PM, so that only you get it and they can escape a flame potentially. Add in that it's someone that you have long history with, that you JUST unblocked 6 days prior. You don't think that's nasty? You think it's a big embellishment to say "wow, that is nasty way to behave." I'm surprised people are suggesting they'd be whatever about it.
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 11:58:50 GMT -6
McBenny , friends, I definitely see your train of thought in all of this. IMO it seems she embellished to get people riled up. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, who knows. But you know this is just going to end up with people jumping on you for going on about it. Honesty question bc you've been measured in here Best compliment you've ever given me.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 11:59:10 GMT -6
AmyG , she wasn't banned for the thumbs up. She was banned for posting my PM reply that was not on the board before she did so. We can keep going until you get it.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 12:00:06 GMT -6
Honesty question bc you've been measured in here Best compliment you've ever given me. I actually respect you, and feel we've come to a better place in our dynamic, so I'm curious about this. I mean AGAIN, YES I was ridiculous. That's established. But you really think I had to be purposefully plotting and embellishing to just grab the word nasty, when I did indeed consider it to be pretty shitty behavior? eta this is me actually wanting the convo, to be clear
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 12:00:55 GMT -6
Because let's say I said "rude."
I still think all parties would be behaving exactly the same.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:01:12 GMT -6
I feel PMing someone that they are not a good person, apropos of nothing and literally out of the blue, is nasty. You say in your own words that you feel PMing someone out of the blue = nasty Clearly not the picture you painted 7/26/23.I feel that sending a woe is me, stop being so mean, when you are actively and simultaneously saying DISGUSTING stuff on the public board is also nasty. You concede that her pm was "woe is me stop being so mean" but I guess the fact that she dare to PM you = nastyIf you feel that was nothing, neat. It doesn't make me a liar. You misrepresented what happened. Maybe some are ok with sweeping that under the rug cause they do not like philo. For me, it's not about philo. You created a whole narrative based on what you wanted and not based on what actually happened.
If you can do it to phil. You can do it to anyone else here.
If that wouldn't have been your adjective, bigger neat. If I'd said rude, would that be ok? Please do let me know what adjective I'm allowed to use and be believed. We can add it to TOU for clarity, of course. I told Phil I would post on the main board if she PMd me again, and that's what I did. I just want to point out that you keep bringing this up post after post, time and time again. No one asked you why you brought it to the board. Like why are you dick riding this? You told her not to pm you again or you would bring it to the board. And? who gives a fuck. If you wouldn't do the same, neat. It doesn't mean I pulled some Machiavellian bait and switch. It's fascinating that you're not holding Phil responsible for her own choices and actions. You all could have scrolled by and ignored to, so the humor isn't lost. Speaking of baiting, I'm well aware of what 🍍 🍊 Fineapple 🍍 🍊 is doing. What are you doing here? Are you implying something about 🍍 🍊 Fineapple 🍍 🍊? Culturally she does not lean into the passive aggressive bullshit as is your way but ok. But I'm laughing at the attempt to make it seem that anyone actually thinks I lied vs felt/handled something differently than perhaps you would have. I am only saying this cause you are making statements like this about laughing at attempts etc. Babygirl, beau coup people feel you lied. They can read my dear. No one has to "make it seem that anyone" does. None of you have handled all things perfectly, and I've certainly had different take on your interpretation of how someone else treated you. That doesn't mean you were lying about it. Not handling things well, which you brought up and creating a different narrative is two different things. You go on to say blah blah blah your interpretation on how someone treated you does not mean you were lying about it. That makes no sense here. You spoke on actions. You spoke on what action someone took against you. That is not speaking on feelings or how to felt you were treated by her.
Again you are literary and should have the vocabulary to relay you felt it was nasty vs saying she sent something nasty. You know the difference between the two.
For me, you really showed your whole ass here. Let's discuss:
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:04:48 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP, I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho...
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:05:29 GMT -6
Best compliment you've ever given me. I actually respect you, and feel we've come to a better place in our dynamic, so I'm curious about this. I mean AGAIN, YES I was ridiculous. That's established. But you really think I had to be purposefully plotting and embellishing to just grab the word nasty, when I did indeed consider it to be pretty shitty behavior? eta this is me actually wanting the convo, to be clear It just takes me an hour to respond seriously, I was being funny with that post. You've stopped with the excess SC gifs and I am eternally grateful.
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:05:46 GMT -6
And now I know they will be coming...
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:06:10 GMT -6
McBenny , friends, I definitely see your train of thought in all of this. IMO it seems she embellished to get people riled up. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, who knows. But you know this is just going to end up with people jumping on you for going on about it. The take away should be if a narrative can be created on that poster, then it can happen to me. I do not care about anyone jumping on me. That is the last of my worry. I do not have to like you to call out someone lying on you. Now, I was clear yesterday and I said several times I am not trying to relitigate the banning of philo. If there would not have been posts today of people making excuses for the bullshit. I would have had no need to speak to it again. I know what happened yesterday. I said what I said. Sometimes you have to stand for something or fall for anything. I do not and will not ever understand for the life of me why some of you will not just call shit out when you see it. You will know something is wrong, blatantly wrong but you won't say it. That's fine. That's ok. Then stay out of the way is all I can say to that.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 12:06:23 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP , I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho... You explained it perfectly, I really appreciate it. And trust, I don't think anyone was watching me thinking "what a gem."
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 12:06:41 GMT -6
And now I know they will be coming... Out of respect and having already blown my load, I will refrain.
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:08:23 GMT -6
Also, if I am being the voice of reason, you all need to take a good hard look at yourselves.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 12:09:24 GMT -6
Also, if I am being the voice of reason, you all need to take a good hard look at yourselves. I have the best fucking GIF for this. You better appreciate me right now.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:10:12 GMT -6
And for the cheap seats NO - I do not think it's nasty to send someone a PM that you presume has an issue with you and ask them about it.
The first sentence was something like what have I ever done to you?
Sounds like someone who wanted a resolution but what do I know.
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Post by STP on Jul 27, 2023 12:12:14 GMT -6
Maybe this is something that should be a bigger discussion of how everyone would like to see the board function as a whole. I haven't really been around much though so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. It's a nice thought, but it can't really happen. Because there are too many hard feelings, and too little awareness of own behavior, for that to be constructive. On all sides. You're seeing how it would play out right now.
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