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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:14:55 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP , I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho... And this could be a case where certain words mean certain things to some people and different things to others. Like I said McB was lecturing and she said that means education only to her. She does not use that word for reprimanding/scolding. I do. People will define "nasty" in different terms.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:16:34 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP , I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho... For me, that 's the main thing that's annoying and the foundation to all the bullshit. Since it was someone, you do not like, it was ok. Who cares if there was embellishment? It was just phil! You are at a 2 about it all. Is that how you would want others to be if it happened to you? Wrong is wrong, right is right. Not just when it's popular or someone you like. I love it. Everything you need to know about people is on display when things like this happen. You already know who will speak up, who won't question shit, who will never rock the boat, who will lay down and take anything said to them, etc. I love that for me. I don't need to guess who is who. It is on display.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:23:09 GMT -6
I am not lecturing anyone. To lecture means an educational talk, to give instruction. I am not doing either. I am pointing out bullshit. You, my dear would be right there next to me as a repeat offender. Let us be clear on that. Now, for the not bright - and that seems to be ok to say about people here - the topic is not me. The topic is not you. Fine. Preaching. I am not delivering a sermon. I am also not giving advice. I am reposting and pointing out the inconsistencies that were posted in this thread yesterday. Get you a dictionary because I don't think you know what the words you post even mean.
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:23:28 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP , I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho... For me, that 's the main thing that's annoying and the foundation to all the bullshit. Since it was someone, you do not like, it was ok. Who cares if there was embellishment? It was just phil! You are at a 2 about it all. Is that how you would want others to be if it happened to you? Wrong is wrong, right is right. Not just when it's popular or someone you like. I love it. Everything you need to know about people is on display when things like this happen. You already know who will speak up, who won't question shit, who will never rock the boat, who will lay down and take anything said to them, etc. I love that for me. I don't need to guess who is who. It is on display. I am at a 2 because I cannot waste my energy deciding if I think STP had a specific, malicious goal or if she just overreacted. Also, philo was poking a bear just to be a pest. She annoys literally everyone here so do I care she got banned, nope. And I am going to think differently of people who go around with the intent to annoy people. She wasn't someone who rubbed some people the wrong way, she was a troll. So I'm not going to KTSE for someone like her and someone who I disagree with sometimes, or may not necessarily like on here, because those are just personality differences usually and I am a mature adult who can either interact with someone I don't like or leave the room.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:24:18 GMT -6
I love it. Everything you need to know about people is on display when things like this happen. You already know who will speak up, who won't question shit, who will never rock the boat, who will lay down and take anything said to them, etc. I love that for me. I don't need to guess who is who. It is on display. I don't know why you can't see how ugly this attitude is. You know exactly who you can lash out at and how to say it and they have to sit back and take it or you call in your reinforcements.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:24:56 GMT -6
I am not delivering a sermon. I am also not giving advice. I am reposting and pointing out the inconsistencies that were posted in this thread yesterday. Get you a dictionary because I don't think you know what the words you post even mean. I did. Go look it up yourself. You are being condescending and scolding people. Those words are there.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:26:17 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP , I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho... And this could be a case where certain words mean certain things to some people and different things to others. Like I said McB was lecturing and she said that means education only to her. She does not use that word for reprimanding/scolding. I do. People will define "nasty" in different terms. I did not say it means only education to me. I said I am not relaying any information. I am pointing out bullshit. Again, you were once lied on too, yet you want to give this person an out on nasty. You and I both know what she was trying to do. Keep defending it and her. Don't forget when it gets hot in the kitchen, she is the same person that will leave your ass out there like the lone ranger even when you clearly told her you thought you two were friends.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:27:37 GMT -6
And this could be a case where certain words mean certain things to some people and different things to others. Like I said McB was lecturing and she said that means education only to her. She does not use that word for reprimanding/scolding. I do. People will define "nasty" in different terms. I did not say it means only education to me. I said I am not relaying any information. I am pointing out bullshit. Again, you were once lied on too, yet you want to give this person an out on nasty. You and I both know what she was trying to do. Keep defending it and her. Don't forget when it gets hot in the kitchen, she is the same person that will leave your ass out there like the lone ranger even when you clearly told her you thought you two were friends. I'm not giving an out. I'm pointing out your behavior. Stop deflecting.
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Post by babybean on Jul 27, 2023 12:28:22 GMT -6
I think thereβs truth to both sides here.
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Post by kmkd on Jul 27, 2023 12:29:32 GMT -6
Iβm here to make best friends. I'm here so I can have internet strangers send me presents. Iβm hoping that by year 10 Iβll be up for a cake.
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 27, 2023 12:29:42 GMT -6
You know exactly who you can lash out at and how to say it and they have to sit back and take it or you call in your reinforcements.Β This is another long-time problem on this board and it's true for a lot of people, not just McBenny and STP. It is true for both of them though IMO.
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Post by Rusty Red on Jul 27, 2023 12:30:20 GMT -6
I came in like a wrecking ball......
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Post by icedcoffee on Jul 27, 2023 12:32:09 GMT -6
I agree with what Pizzaslut said. I also want to add I was surprised to learn that Phil sent STP PMs in the first place The dislike was no secret, so why even go there? It makes no sense. I think this is why AmyG I don't really understand you saying Phil didn't start anything. Did she take bait on this thread, maybe. But what good did she think would come out of sending STP private messages when we can see how they interact on the board? That to me screams trying to start shit so I don't think Phil is blameless here at all
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:32:15 GMT -6
And even if STP was evil laughing as she made this thread, who cares? For two reasons. One is that it is not like she told philo to fucking die a fiery death or death on a family member. She said philo sent nasty PMs. If she's lying on her with something that stupid and philo takes the bait, then I just cannot get it up enough to get angry. Two is that it's fucking philo. It's going to take a lot more than that to make me get this worked up.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 27, 2023 12:32:44 GMT -6
You all are really going for the Beetlejuice effect here, thatgolfb @icedtea. Itβs apparently been too quiet and peaceful here lately. π I promise I wasnβt trying to beetlejuice her. I donβt care to engage with her ever again.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 27, 2023 12:33:20 GMT -6
Sorry, I honestly do not have cell service often on this trip. I wasnβt intending to post and ghost.
I donβt like it lol.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:33:50 GMT -6
And even if STP was evil laughing as she made this thread, who cares? For two reasons. One is that it is not like she told philo to fucking die a fiery death or death on a family member. She said philo was sent nasty PMs. If she's lying on her with something that stupid and philo takes the bait, then I just cannot get it up enough to get angry. Two is that it's fucking philo. It's going to take a lot more than that to make me get this worked up. You must be at an 11 at all times. Them's the rules. Check the TOU that no one reads.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:33:51 GMT -6
For me, that 's the main thing that's annoying and the foundation to all the bullshit. Since it was someone, you do not like, it was ok. Who cares if there was embellishment? It was just phil! You are at a 2 about it all. Is that how you would want others to be if it happened to you? Wrong is wrong, right is right. Not just when it's popular or someone you like. I love it. Everything you need to know about people is on display when things like this happen. You already know who will speak up, who won't question shit, who will never rock the boat, who will lay down and take anything said to them, etc. I love that for me. I don't need to guess who is who. It is on display. I am at a 2 because I cannot waste my energy deciding if I think STP had a specific, malicious goal or if she just overreacted. Also, philo was poking a bear just to be a pest. She annoys literally everyone here so do I care she got banned, nope. And I am going to think differently of people who go around with the intent to annoy people. She wasn't someone who rubbed some people the wrong way, she was a troll. So I'm not going to KTSE for someone like her and someone who I disagree with sometimes, or may not necessarily like on here, because those are just personality differences usually and I am a mature adult who can either interact with someone I don't like or leave the room. But you are in here using your energy deciding to give STP grace and benefit of the doubt. Even in the face of her contradictions in her own words. If you truly didn't want to waste your energies you would not be in the thread WK what was done. KWIM? Again, you are making it about philo and that's how I know you are not reading what I am saying. You are reading enough to respond. If a story can be created about one poster than it can be created on you. That's my point. That's my take away.
Since you seem like to need to hear it - I do not care that she got banned. I said that many times yesterday. It is not about her. It is not about KTSE energy for me - again I see you are not reading to take in but throwing KTSE out there because it's me, mcbenny - it is about let's not lose sight of the fact that a lie was created. Embellishment for the sensitive people.
I don't have to like someone to admit that someone lied on them. That's not cool. I am not arguing with you. There is just nothing to be said. You appear steadfast on the island of it was phil so I don't care. That's fine. That's ok. That is just not what I am talking about. Not my topic at all.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:34:13 GMT -6
Sorry, I honestly do not have cell service often on this trip. I wasnβt intending to post and ghost. I donβt like it lol. But look at the fun you come back to!
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:34:36 GMT -6
I did not say it means only education to me. I said I am not relaying any information. I am pointing out bullshit. Again, you were once lied on too, yet you want to give this person an out on nasty. You and I both know what she was trying to do. Keep defending it and her. Don't forget when it gets hot in the kitchen, she is the same person that will leave your ass out there like the lone ranger even when you clearly told her you thought you two were friends. I'm not giving an out. I'm pointing out your behavior. Stop deflecting. I am not deflecting. I mean you can keep on doing what you are doing. I don't take any leads on anything from you in life so there's that. KOKO
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:34:40 GMT -6
Info may need to cough up the list of potential board names.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 27, 2023 12:35:08 GMT -6
In all seriousness STP , I don't think you had a grand plan and yes she's a fucking dumbass that isn't worth anyone paying attention to, but when I hear "nasty message" I assume she's telling you to she wants you to die. Is it a nasty way to behave? Yes. It's just not how I interpreted it when I read your initial post. And again, I am the queen of devil's advocate so maybe you had a huge motive or maybe you were just pissed and that's how you reacted, using a term that meant something different to you then how I interpreted it? I am at a 2 about all it and you said you wish you acted differently, but I don't think a lot of us here necessarily care either way. I hope I'm explaining that okay, I'm not good at expressing myself in written form. If you could see my face through all of this tho... For me, that 's the main thing that's annoying and the foundation to all the bullshit. Since it was someone, you do not like, it was ok. Who cares if there was embellishment? It was just phil! You are at a 2 about it all.Β Is that how you would want others to be if it happened to you? Wrong is wrong, right is rightΒ I think this is fair. FTR, I don't necessarily agree that a false narrative was being built only bc we have all seen ample Philo fights out in the open. But I understand why you're saying it has to be called out if that's your interpretation of what's going down. I felt the PM was really mean and unnecessary but I think a lot of things get said around here that are mean and unnecessary. And I see yoir point that, depending on our past interactions with posters, we might see it as aggressive or trolling or buildimg a narrative, or we might see it as just an argument. And as scout acknowledged, she was hot headed and being mean right back. Some people here remember everyone who has beef heart and when and why, but it's also sometimes that others don't wade into a fight bc we don't know the backstory. Idk. I just hate when it gets hostile.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 12:35:21 GMT -6
I'm not giving an out. I'm pointing out your behavior. Stop deflecting. I am not deflecting. I mean you can keep on doing what you are doing. I don't take any leads on anything from you in life so there's that. KOKO I thought you'd want to know your whole ass is hanging out while you are trying to point out the same on others. I guess not. Noted.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:37:34 GMT -6
And even if STP was evil laughing as she made this thread, who cares? For two reasons. One is that it is not like she told philo to fucking die a fiery death or death on a family member. She said philo was sent nasty PMs. If she's lying on her with something that stupid and philo takes the bait, then I just cannot get it up enough to get angry. Two is that it's fucking philo. It's going to take a lot more than that to make me get this worked up. Who cares? Clearly, I do. If she can lie on that poster, then she can lie on anyone. Maybe you are ok with ignoring that part and that's ok. I am not ok with ignoring that part and that's ok too. I am not angry about it. I just don't want it to get buried under "I told her not to PM me" that there was not factual information given. She knows this. She back talked it yesterday so again I don't know what it's being defended again today?
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:37:41 GMT -6
I am at a 2 because I cannot waste my energy deciding if I think STP had a specific, malicious goal or if she just overreacted. Also, philo was poking a bear just to be a pest. She annoys literally everyone here so do I care she got banned, nope. And I am going to think differently of people who go around with the intent to annoy people. She wasn't someone who rubbed some people the wrong way, she was a troll. So I'm not going to KTSE for someone like her and someone who I disagree with sometimes, or may not necessarily like on here, because those are just personality differences usually and I am a mature adult who can either interact with someone I don't like or leave the room. But you are in here using your energy deciding to give STP grace and benefit of the doubt. Even in the face of her contradictions in her own words. If you truly didn't want to waste your energies you would not be in the thread WK what was done. KWIM? Again, you are making it about philo and that's how I know you are not reading what I am saying. You are reading enough to respond. If a story can be created about one poster than it can be created on you. That's my point. That's my take away.
Since you seem like to need to hear it - I do not care that she got banned. I said that many times yesterday. It is not about her. It is not about KTSE energy for me - again I see you are not reading to take in but throwing KTSE out there because it's me, mcbenny - it is about let's not lose sight of the fact that a lie was created. Embellishment for the sensitive people.
I don't have to like someone to admit that someone lied on them. That's not cool. I am not arguing with you. There is just nothing to be said. You appear steadfast on the island of it was phil so I don't care. That's fine. That's ok. That is just not what I am talking about. Not my topic at all. I'm not WK anything. I'm putting my energy in explaining that I don't know her intent and I don't care. Sure someone can lie on me. If/when that happens I will choose to either defend myself or ignore it. And again, I see the inconsistencies that you are pointing out. I really do. And if it was on someone who actually had good intentions being here, I would not be so carefree. But again, it's phil.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:40:47 GMT -6
For me, that 's the main thing that's annoying and the foundation to all the bullshit. Since it was someone, you do not like, it was ok. Who cares if there was embellishment? It was just phil! You are at a 2 about it all. Is that how you would want others to be if it happened to you? Wrong is wrong, right is right I think this is fair. FTR, I don't necessarily agree that a false narrative was being built only bc we have all seen ample Philo fights out in the open. But I understand why you're saying it has to be called out if that's your interpretation of what's going down. I felt the PM was really mean and unnecessary but I think a lot of things get said around here that are mean and unnecessary. And I see yoir point that, depending on our past interactions with posters, we might see it as aggressive or trolling or buildimg a narrative, or we might see it as just an argument. And as scout acknowledged, she was hot headed and being mean right back. Some people here remember everyone who has beef heart and when and why, but it's also sometimes that others don't wade into a fight bc we don't know the backstory. Idk. I just hate when it gets hostile. This thread was not created about phil fights done in the open. It was created to call out PMs. Nasty PMs. C'mon. No one needs a backstory here. Many people (meaning more than one and more than me) asked was there more? Is that the nasty PM? It was clearly said in that way by the board literary to get a reaction. That's fine. That's cool. She can say what she wants and how she wants. And I am going to point out, hey don't let your hate for a poster lose sight of the fact that we were told a bunch of bullshit. The end.
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:46:45 GMT -6
But you are in here using your energy deciding to give STP grace and benefit of the doubt. Even in the face of her contradictions in her own words. If you truly didn't want to waste your energies you would not be in the thread WK what was done. KWIM? Again, you are making it about philo and that's how I know you are not reading what I am saying. You are reading enough to respond. If a story can be created about one poster than it can be created on you. That's my point. That's my take away.
Since you seem like to need to hear it - I do not care that she got banned. I said that many times yesterday. It is not about her. It is not about KTSE energy for me - again I see you are not reading to take in but throwing KTSE out there because it's me, mcbenny - it is about let's not lose sight of the fact that a lie was created. Embellishment for the sensitive people.
I don't have to like someone to admit that someone lied on them. That's not cool. I am not arguing with you. There is just nothing to be said. You appear steadfast on the island of it was phil so I don't care. That's fine. That's ok. That is just not what I am talking about. Not my topic at all. I'm not WK anything. I'm putting my energy in explaining that I don't know her intent and I don't care. Sure someone can lie on me. If/when that happens I will choose to either defend myself or ignore it. And again, I see the inconsistencies that you are pointing out. I really do. And if it was on someone who actually had good intentions being here, I would not be so carefree. But again, it's phil. You do care. You keep making posts about it. Do you not see how that is the opposite of you don't care? I already said it more than once - if you are ok with the inconsistencies because it was someone you do not like. That's fine. Then stay out the way? Like there is nothing further to discuss. You don't care who said what on who because you don't like her. Message received done and done. Got it. I see you. I heard you. Now what does that have to do with me? You want me to land there? You want me to stop posting about it? You want me to not call bullshit cause it was someone people don't like? Again I am not arguing with you about it. How you feel is how you feel. That's cool for you.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 27, 2023 12:47:48 GMT -6
I think this is fair. FTR, I don't necessarily agree that a false narrative was being built only bc we have all seen ample Philo fights out in the open. But I understand why you're saying it has to be called out if that's your interpretation of what's going down. I felt the PM was really mean and unnecessary but I think a lot of things get said around here that are mean and unnecessary. And I see yoir point that, depending on our past interactions with posters, we might see it as aggressive or trolling or buildimg a narrative, or we might see it as just an argument. And as scout acknowledged, she was hot headed and being mean right back. Some people here remember everyone who has beef heart and when and why, but it's also sometimes that others don't wade into a fight bc we don't know the backstory. Idk. I just hate when it gets hostile. T And I am going to point out, hey don't let your hate for a poster lose sight of the fact that we were told a bunch of bullshit. The end.Β I totally agree with you on this part
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 12:48:04 GMT -6
omg yes. Then people wonder why certain people do not feel comfortable in certain spaces. Then certain people act like they don't understand how certain persons are always given the benefit of the doubt vs others. #mygosh If you think it's so shitty, why continue following around? To stir to pot? Like that makes you better? Why are you following me in this thread? To stir the pot? Like that makes you better?
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 12:48:14 GMT -6
McBenny, I'm just having a conversation. Sharing an opinion. A different viewpoint. Shooting the shit, if you will. Do I have to be deeply invested to talk about it with you?
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