TheoV2
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 27, 2023 11:07:00 GMT -6
I've made friends here. I originally came to TB to find advice and people in a similar life space to me.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:07:43 GMT -6
Also let's be clear and not change the narrative. Many of us were here and saw the shit with our own eyes before it was deleted.
She did not PMS you and say you sucked ass as a person.
She sent you a screen shot of you saying you are a good person and then she added the thumbs up.
You are not new. You are not a child. You are allegedly a grown ass woman. I have seen you fuck with people much worse than that but the moment anything is sent your way, you are a victim.
TL: DR - SHE SENT YOU YOUR POST SAYING "I AM A GOOD PERSON" WITH A THUMBS UP.
Do not try to paint is as something else.
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Post by kittyriot on Jul 27, 2023 11:08:18 GMT -6
I’m here to make best friends. This made me giggle. You may have won the lottery then…go buy a ticket
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Jul 27, 2023 11:08:22 GMT -6
Yes like banning for a thumbs up passing someone off that theybfelt they had to defend themselves with a pm was definitely out there on things I think should be bannable. Posting real life info, hate speech, spam and talking bad about someone's kids those are my lines. We have so few people here maybe we might consider treading a little lighter on banning and then watch our habit of running new posters off. I don't care if someone comes back from the past at least they'll be someone else to talk to. lol. And most mellow with age and experience up to a point anyways. I've gotten so many pms that are good, bad and mean even some that came from people that are the opposite of what they post to me on the boards. I think think hard to not let it sour me but I'm already old and stale I don't need to be sour too. Did you post that someone said you should die via Pm? I guess that's not on my list of things over the line. Even though it's pretty hateful speech I have to admit. That ship has long ago sailed.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:10:04 GMT -6
Again it's not facts, it's feelings. The fact is you said more than once you were sent nasty posts.
The fact of the matter when you were questioned by multiple persons in this thread you walked it back each and every time. It then was changed to it felt nasty to you.
That's facts not feelings.
If you were sure in your stance that you wasn't full of shit then you wouldn't have walked it back.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 27, 2023 11:10:07 GMT -6
The level of nastiness that has flown on this board and all versions previous it’s laughable to be that this is the line too far for some of y’all. But noted. omg yes. Then people wonder why certain people do not feel comfortable in certain spaces. Then certain people act like they don't understand how certain persons are always given the benefit of the doubt vs others. #mygosh As someone who has posted about how I don’t feel comfortable around here a lot of the time and don’t post in a thread I posted in from the beginning of it I get what you are saying . But this is why I’m saying I understand the overreaction of STP and she has said that she knows she overreacted. This isn’t about loving her because her and I go at it too it’s about understanding that reaction.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 27, 2023 11:11:08 GMT -6
I am unsurprised that Phil has spun the board into *waves hands* all of this. STP overreacted, she's said she overreacted, but now all the horses have left the barn and are three states away so closing the door is pointless. Phil might have had a hand in it But someone else started this not Phil She sent the PM first. Like am I in a twilight zone? Both Phil and STP were extraAF
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:11:31 GMT -6
Also if you felt so attacked by a nasty PM, you had the option of going to admin about it directly via pm WHEN IT HAPPENED WHICH WAS WHAT? MARCH OF 2022.
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piratecat
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Post by piratecat on Jul 27, 2023 11:11:49 GMT -6
Yes like banning for a thumbs up passing someone off that theybfelt they had to defend themselves with a pm was definitely out there on things I think should be bannable. Posting real life info, hate speech, spam and talking bad about someone's kids those are my lines. We have so few people here maybe we might consider treading a little lighter on banning and then watch our habit of running new posters off. I don't care if someone comes back from the past at least they'll be someone else to talk to. lol. And most mellow with age and experience up to a point anyways. I've gotten so many pms that are good, bad and mean even some that came from people that are the opposite of what they post to me on the boards. I think think hard to not let it sour me but I'm already old and stale I don't need to be sour too. We have literally banned 1 person in the last year. People have left because this place has become something it wasn’t before not because they were banned I'm curious what you think this place has become.
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Jul 27, 2023 11:11:59 GMT -6
I put on thursday post but it goes here better. When a regular poster engages with someone they think is a troll or sock reincarnation and proceed to call them names and poke them non stop. It makes the poster look bad not the troll/socks
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TheoV2
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Post by TheoV2 on Jul 27, 2023 11:12:42 GMT -6
I'm curious what response is wanted from STP at this point. She's repeatedly said that she overreacted and was irrational in her post and responses to philo. I'm not trying to wk her, just curious. Is it for her to admit that she used the word "nasty" nefariously?
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Post by angelashly on Jul 27, 2023 11:14:00 GMT -6
We have literally banned 1 person in the last year. People have left because this place has become something it wasn’t before not because they were banned I'm curious what you think this place has become. I have been very vocal lately about how I feel about this place. I’m sure I’m part of the problem but it feels like everything now is a fight or there is so much beef heart. The amount of pms I get of people saying I see the shit you are getting but I don’t feel comfortable coming forward is a lot especially since I’m the one constantly called the mean girl here
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Jul 27, 2023 11:15:28 GMT -6
I mean, we'll fight about something else but there's no reason not to have this topic lined out well. eta and I don't feel that anything would be different in this case. Phil posted them and I stand by my assessment of them. So it'll just be exactly what this is - fighting over whether or not your stated feelings are valid based on beef heart and past dynamics. You got the preview. Agreed. People have expressed some valid questions about TOU that, imo, warrant discussion. Since this became more about a lot of posters coming in with strong feelings from every direction, possible a separate discussion in a separate post would be more productive. 100% let's move the TOU clarification discussion to a new post.
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pobre
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Post by pobre on Jul 27, 2023 11:16:46 GMT -6
The level of nastiness that has flown on this board and all versions previous it’s laughable to be that this is the line too far for some of y’all. But noted. omg yes. Then people wonder why certain people do not feel comfortable in certain spaces. Then certain people act like they don't understand how certain persons are always given the benefit of the doubt vs others. #mygosh haaaaaaaaaaaaa
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:16:46 GMT -6
philo I told you before that if you send me any more nasty PMs, I will just bring them to the board. Just in case anyone ever buys your absolute victim mentality. I said nothing to you, about you, or around you today or recently. I don't harass you via PM, I stand in my full voice publicly on the board when I disagree with you like a grown up. Have a fantastic rest of your day and don't fucking PM me again. Let's revisit. I have time. nasty PMs - we both know you said this to incite a reaction from the rest of us. You know damn well even when we can't stand each other we will defend each other against being attacked harass you via pm - you also purposely used the word harass. So you mean to tell us that you got a pm in March 2022. You told her then if you pm again I will bring it to the board. She then PMs you yesterday which is what 16 months later? So, 2 pms in 16 months and now you are harassed? You knew what you were doing yesterday.
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wasabi
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Post by wasabi on Jul 27, 2023 11:17:39 GMT -6
Not to beat a dead horse, I just wonder what was to be expected from the OP. Scout said she was going to bring the PMs here, which was confusing for me as to why there was such outrage at Philo doing it herself.
But I do hate myself for giving any sort of impression that I’m white knighting phil.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:20:04 GMT -6
Also, are you so stupid you didn't understand that meant that I would post on the actual board? Wow. I didn't see her call you any names yesterday. Even after you called her stupid.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:21:00 GMT -6
Honey, moron is the nicest thing one can say about you. I'm practically an angel. Also that was a joke post bc I'm often an asshole and everyone knows it. You really aren't bright. She didn't curse you out or name call you even after you called her a moron and not bright.
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piratecat
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Post by piratecat on Jul 27, 2023 11:23:15 GMT -6
I'm curious what you think this place has become. I have been very vocal lately about how I feel about this place. I’m sure I’m part of the problem but it feels like everything now is a fight or there is so much beef heart. The amount of pms I get of people saying I see the shit you are getting but I don’t feel comfortable coming forward is a lot especially since I’m the one constantly called the mean girl here There is not a lot of activity on the general board and it seems like there is more activity on the blinds threads which I don't do, so I'm probably not up-to-date. But I guess I feel like the fighting has always been there. Maybe there is more now in places I don't see.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:23:17 GMT -6
Oh don't worry, I have the previous PM saved as well. And yes, it was nasty. If you don't want to deal with me phil , then simply don't. It's that simple. I don't interact with a few people here anymore, and find it quite easy to do. That actually includes you most of the time. I don't PM them and then pretend I'm somehow a victim when they respond. Again you dug in and said you were sent a nasty PM.
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Jul 27, 2023 11:23:44 GMT -6
Admin is it a TOU to post PM with the posters permission? Like if someone messaged me off board and said you can post I don’t care? Is that bannable *snip* This has happened before, right? I swear it has, either here or a previous iteration. My personal opinion on that is it would not be bannable because permission was given as long as there was proof of permission. dc2london bunnyfungo Thoughts? (I think in the incident I'm remembering, it was an argument taking place on the board about something that took place off board and the permission was given in the course of the on board argument. No one was banned as far as I can remember.) We gave the go ahead to share info about PM's from zweber during that whole blow up
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:24:46 GMT -6
And it wasn't just that, of course. I won't be posting it bc it's against TOU. That was after you'd said some unforgivable shit to me on the board, and you're well aware of it. Now what she said to you on the board was unforgivable. You see you had your full on paint brush out and was painting a picture for everyone to believe. Did anyone else call her out on this "unforgivable shit?"
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:27:13 GMT -6
She's not saying you faked it, but that there's more in the convo that you're not sharing. The rest of the convo was me saying "you give as well as you take, especially today, and don't PM me again or I will just go to the main board." Because it was on the heels of some real shitty shit. In the context of the conversation that had JUST happened, that was a nasty PM. And all that matters is that I knew it to be such, again in context. This was the first back pedal as I saw it. Now, it was in the context of a conversation that had just happened on the board, that made the PM nasty. LOL, ok
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 11:28:11 GMT -6
Honey, moron is the nicest thing one can say about you. I'm practically an angel. Also that was a joke post bc I'm often an asshole and everyone knows it. You really aren't bright. She didn't curse you out or name call you even after you called her a moron and not bright. This is rich. You lecturing people on this when you are a repeat offender.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 27, 2023 11:28:25 GMT -6
I have been very vocal lately about how I feel about this place. I’m sure I’m part of the problem but it feels like everything now is a fight or there is so much beef heart. The amount of pms I get of people saying I see the shit you are getting but I don’t feel comfortable coming forward is a lot especially since I’m the one constantly called the mean girl here There is not a lot of activity on the general board and it seems like there is more activity on the blinds threads which I don't do, so I'm probably not up-to-date. But I guess I feel like the fighting has always been there. Maybe there is more now in places I don't see. It’s different to me
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 11:29:25 GMT -6
The level of nastiness that has flown on this board and all versions previous it’s laughable to be that this is the line too far for some of y’all. But noted. omg yes. Then people wonder why certain people do not feel comfortable in certain spaces. Then certain people act like they don't understand how certain persons are always given the benefit of the doubt vs others. #mygosh If you think it's so shitty, why continue following around? To stir to pot? Like that makes you better?
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 27, 2023 11:30:24 GMT -6
Is that how you make new friends? Wait until you see a group of people fighting and randomly join in on one side? Most people will pick a different scenario to join in, but I wonr kink shame if you're into that. I know some of us are here as friends and to make friends. But a lot of people in the internet are looking for advice or something to pass the time not to make true friends. Then one shouldn't be surprised when they are greeted with squees and treated like they are one of the gang when they randomly drop in and come off at an 11 from the get go.
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Jul 27, 2023 11:30:50 GMT -6
I'm cool with philo getting banned for posting both parts of a PM. I don't follow at all why STP made a thread about the content of the message being offensive in the first place. Was there more to the PM was was offensive? Or was it offensive that she PMed you when you asked her not to? It doesn't really matter, I suppose, I'm just curious because I'm fully lost in the woods over here. I told her previously that my boundary was that she not PM. I also said that if she did, I would bring the conversation back to the main board bc I will not converse with her in private for exactly the reason shown here - I was not going to have my words that couldn't be shared twisted around and manipulated. I think when you lay a boundary, you need to follow through with it or it's meaningless. There was nothing precipitating that PM, which was absolutely mean, and frankly Brux I don't think you'd appreciate something like that out of the blue either. If you are talking about the initial PM from awhile ago, again you don't have the full context and can't bc she deleted what led up to it. Back pedal #2 At this moment brux doesn't really get an answer. Was there more to the PM? No real answer but - The PM was "absolutely mean."
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Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Jul 27, 2023 11:32:53 GMT -6
That's asking a lot of an admin who does this in their spare time. If she didn't ask for it to be deleted in the whole time it was up prior to being banned I don't think it's admins responsibility to do that. I don’t really go here, but this isn’t exactly a fair statement. Yes admin do this in their spare time, but let’s not forget that it was a choice they made, and not without knowing the backgrounds of how some relationships go here, this has been watered down like a thousand times since TB days, and even then people clamoured to be unpaid moderators there too, everyone knows how this goes. Where do you go?
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Pizzaslut
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Post by Pizzaslut on Jul 27, 2023 11:33:12 GMT -6
I’m here to make best friends. I'm here so I can have internet strangers send me presents.
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