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Post by dc2london on May 11, 2023 11:49:44 GMT -6
It doesn't seem that unusual for the Senate though. She is certainly not the first one to be in this situation, aside from maybe being the first female. Strom Thurmond comes to mind (having personally dealt with him, and his designated baby sitter), but certainly not the only. Is this a great practice? No. I know you’re right. And I know that’s the generation she came up in. I guess I just am feeling this one more because it’s my representation. Like I feel exposed not having confidence in my elected official in this current landscape. I know the “office” and staff does the heavy lifting but idk. I want them to be led by someone who is fully present. It’s a really uncomfortable feeling. You are not alone in this concern. Californians are already underrepresented in Congress, it is patently undemocratic for you to be down half your Senate representation. This is yet another example of ways the 20 year old slave holders who wrote our Constitution left us without some really important guard rails.
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Post by dc2london on May 11, 2023 11:55:49 GMT -6
I'm watching the daily briefing and I am really irritated by how the press is covering the ending of title 42. Notwithstanding the seriousness of the massive overcrowding in places like El Paso, which is awful and has to be addressed-- This country guarantees a right to seek asylum. Yes, there is a refugee crisis the world over right now. But the right to present one's self for asylum is in our laws and it's our responsibility to figure out how to do that humanely and with dignity for the applicants.
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Post by jaygee on May 11, 2023 12:35:45 GMT -6
I know you’re right. And I know that’s the generation she came up in. I guess I just am feeling this one more because it’s my representation. Like I feel exposed not having confidence in my elected official in this current landscape. I know the “office” and staff does the heavy lifting but idk. I want them to be led by someone who is fully present. It’s a really uncomfortable feeling. You are not alone in this concern. Californians are already underrepresented in Congress, it is patently undemocratic for you to be down half your Senate representation. This is yet another example of ways the 20 year old slave holders who wrote our Constitution left us without some really important guard rails. I mean, I didn’t want to come off as a self important CA person - I know we have a reputation for that. But yes, this is the crux. It already feels lean and for weeks at least we have essentially had a junior Senator only. He’s great, but…we’ve got 40M people.
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Post by jaygee on May 11, 2023 12:37:31 GMT -6
I know you’re right. And I know that’s the generation she came up in. I guess I just am feeling this one more because it’s my representation. Like I feel exposed not having confidence in my elected official in this current landscape. I know the “office” and staff does the heavy lifting but idk. I want them to be led by someone who is fully present. It’s a really uncomfortable feeling. I've wondered if there's anything we, as her constituents, can do. I am also hoping that she was flying in to say her farewells and make a final floor speech - a girl can dream I’ve thought about calling Newsom’s office. But I’m not sure what he can do. He has influence but he’s in a rock and a hard place too. I have to imagine that Pelosi, Boxer, Speier….heck maybe even Willie Brown are involved and trying to do what’s best for her. But that makes me think she at some point expressed wishes to fulfill her term no matter what.
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Post by dc2london on May 11, 2023 14:06:39 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on May 11, 2023 14:10:56 GMT -6
The radical Supreme Court continues to ruin shit A federal judge in Virginia on Wednesday declared unconstitutional a set of federal laws and regulations that prohibit federally licensed firearms dealers from selling handguns to 18- to 20-year olds, finding the measures violated the Second Amendment. “Because the statutes and regulations in question are not consistent with our Nation’s history and tradition, they, therefore, cannot stand,” U.S. District Judge Robert E. Payne, who sits in Richmond, concluded in a 71-page opinion. 18- to 20-year-olds can’t be barred from buying handguns, judge rules www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/11/judge-rules-handgun-sales-allowed-18-year-olds/
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Post by cnf on May 11, 2023 14:40:57 GMT -6
The radical Supreme Court continues to ruin shit A federal judge in Virginia on Wednesday declared unconstitutional a set of federal laws and regulations that prohibit federally licensed firearms dealers from selling handguns to 18- to 20-year olds, finding the measures violated the Second Amendment. “Because the statutes and regulations in question are not consistent with our Nation’s history and tradition, they, therefore, cannot stand,” U.S. District Judge Robert E. Payne, who sits in Richmond, concluded in a 71-page opinion. 18- to 20-year-olds can’t be barred from buying handguns, judge rules www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/11/judge-rules-handgun-sales-allowed-18-year-olds/It took him 71 pages to say that old white men from the 1700's can decide that teenagers can buy firearms? K. Whatever, dude. Fucking twit.
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Post by byjove on May 11, 2023 15:33:37 GMT -6
Do it
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Post by elle on May 11, 2023 15:35:32 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on May 11, 2023 15:36:22 GMT -6
Every time his flaps his gums about her, it should be another lawsuit.
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Post by enchanted on May 11, 2023 15:43:19 GMT -6
NY Times headline that San.tos settled the stolen check case out of Brazil. I don't have a subscription so didn't read beyond that.
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Post by dc2london on May 11, 2023 16:16:26 GMT -6
Yes but I don't blame her if she doesn't. She was berated by Jon Tapioca for 3 days straight and I can't imagine the threats she already gets from his minions.
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Post by dc2london on May 11, 2023 16:18:26 GMT -6
The radical Supreme Court continues to ruin shit A federal judge in Virginia on Wednesday declared unconstitutional a set of federal laws and regulations that prohibit federally licensed firearms dealers from selling handguns to 18- to 20-year olds, finding the measures violated the Second Amendment. “Because the statutes and regulations in question are not consistent with our Nation’s history and tradition, they, therefore, cannot stand,” U.S. District Judge Robert E. Payne, who sits in Richmond, concluded in a 71-page opinion. 18- to 20-year-olds can’t be barred from buying handguns, judge rules www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/11/judge-rules-handgun-sales-allowed-18-year-olds/It took him 71 pages to say that old white men from the 1700's can decide that teenagers can buy firearms? K. Whatever, dude. Fucking twit. You know I agree with you but, since Bruen, any judge in this country can now argue that a law not on the books in 1781 can not be on the books today. Complete fucking insanity. I am so tired.
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Post by willow on May 11, 2023 16:39:30 GMT -6
MN Senate just passed a bill that will provide tuition-free public college for any Minnesotan who comes from a family that makes less than $80,000 per year. This is huge. Gov Walz is going to sign it next. We are getting shit DONE and I love to see it. Seriously, MN is the true hero. Can MN just make the decisions for the rest of us too? The conservatives are losing their minds screaming about us becoming a socialist state and I’m like …yes and?
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Post by cnf on May 11, 2023 17:23:14 GMT -6
It took him 71 pages to say that old white men from the 1700's can decide that teenagers can buy firearms? K. Whatever, dude. Fucking twit. You know I agree with you but, since Bruen, any judge in this country can now argue that a law not on the books in 1781 can not be on the books today. Complete fucking insanity. I am so tired. Can this be appealed, or pushed higher in the courts? I don't legal system very well, but it's so disheartening and exhausting.
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Post by elle on May 11, 2023 17:46:49 GMT -6
Yes but I don't blame her if she doesn't. She was berated by Jon Tapioca for 3 days straight and I can't imagine the threats she already gets from his minions. For sure. And to clarify, when I said she should, I meant only because it's a very clear example and he really needs to be stopped. But I definitely would not blame her for being tired and not wanting to go through any more of the circus and bs.
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Post by byjove on May 11, 2023 18:09:53 GMT -6
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Post by sweetpea on May 11, 2023 19:31:55 GMT -6
Yes but I don't blame her if she doesn't. She was berated by Jon Tapioca for 3 days straight and I can't imagine the threats she already gets from his minions. For sure. And to clarify, when I said she should, I meant only because it's a very clear example and he really needs to be stopped. But I definitely would not blame her for being tired and not wanting to go through any more of the circus and bs. She already has a second case against Trump, although that’s currently postponed. [That] case — the one involving Trump's 2019 statements — has been hung up on an important legal question: Was Trump acting in his capacity as president when he made those denials? www.npr.org/2023/04/09/1168664355/trump-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit-trialit would be great if she kept suing him
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Post by oreobitsy on May 11, 2023 21:09:41 GMT -6
MN Senate just passed a bill that will provide tuition-free public college for any Minnesotan who comes from a family that makes less than $80,000 per year. This is huge. Gov Walz is going to sign it next. We are getting shit DONE and I love to see it. Seriously, MN is the true hero. Can MN just make the decisions for the rest of us too? I need a state rivalry recap with political issues for WI/MN. They are similar sizes but how did Wisconsin go so deep into the other side and MN is getting so much done effectively? I have family in rural MN and city WI and I think it’s skewing my understand of voting demographics. I hear conservative views from my MN fam and then liberal from my WI fam. We’ve moved past ever moving back I think, but MN would absolutely have my vote.
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Post by dc2london on May 12, 2023 8:44:49 GMT -6
For sure. And to clarify, when I said she should, I meant only because it's a very clear example and he really needs to be stopped. But I definitely would not blame her for being tired and not wanting to go through any more of the circus and bs. She already has a second case against Trump, although that’s currently postponed. [That] case — the one involving Trump's 2019 statements — has been hung up on an important legal question: Was Trump acting in his capacity as president when he made those denials? www.npr.org/2023/04/09/1168664355/trump-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit-trialit would be great if she kept suing him Right. I just read that she is considering suing him again for what he said during the town hall
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Post by dc2london on May 12, 2023 8:49:24 GMT -6
He keeps digging in
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Post by dc2london on May 12, 2023 8:55:21 GMT -6
Daniel Penny turned himself in to New York City authorities on Friday on a charge of second-degree manslaughter after he was filmed placing Jordan Neely in a fatal chokehold on a subway train earlier this month. Steven M. Raiser, one of Penny’s attorneys, told The Washington Post that the 24-year-old Marine Corps veteran turned himself in at Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday morning. “He is fully cooperating turning himself in at 8 a.m. as instructed by police and is being processed for arraignment,” Raiser said. Daniel Penny surrenders to police in Jordan Neely’s subway chokehold death www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/12/daniel-penny-jordan-neely-charges-subway-death/
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Post by elle on May 12, 2023 8:55:38 GMT -6
I mean he's absolutely right; although I realize that's not what he means. 🙄
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Post by elle on May 12, 2023 9:03:29 GMT -6
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Post by willow on May 12, 2023 9:31:02 GMT -6
Seriously, MN is the true hero. Can MN just make the decisions for the rest of us too? I need a state rivalry recap with political issues for WI/MN. They are similar sizes but how did Wisconsin go so deep into the other side and MN is getting so much done effectively? I have family in rural MN and city WI and I think it’s skewing my understand of voting demographics. I hear conservative views from my MN fam and then liberal from my WI fam. We’ve moved past ever moving back I think, but MN would absolutely have my vote. I think there are several factors at play here because you are right, in general, the populations are similar. I have read articles about this in the past. One reason is because MN historically has had far more Scandinavian immigrants who tend to favor more socialist/left leaning politics and WI has more German/Eastern European immigrants. Our Democratic party, the DFL, is also very strong and unified and always has been. We have the Iron Range which is huge for keeping us blue, even when some pockets of it have swung more red/purple in recent years. The Republican party in MN has never had as strong of a base or messaging as the DFL either. I do think that the differences are closer than they seem even with how far right some people in WI government are right now. We have plenty of rural communities that are super red, but our urban centers are doing a better job of holding strong with our DFL candidates. It's usually pretty close in the exurbs and rural areas that do go blue though. There is also the problem that WI has some of the worst gerrymandering in the country, so that heavily affects how the legislature is going to be made up.
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Post by beaf12 on May 12, 2023 11:00:13 GMT -6
I need a state rivalry recap with political issues for WI/MN. They are similar sizes but how did Wisconsin go so deep into the other side and MN is getting so much done effectively? I have family in rural MN and city WI and I think it’s skewing my understand of voting demographics. I hear conservative views from my MN fam and then liberal from my WI fam. We’ve moved past ever moving back I think, but MN would absolutely have my vote. I think there are several factors at play here because you are right, in general, the populations are similar. I have read articles about this in the past. One reason is because MN historically has had far more Scandinavian immigrants who tend to favor more socialist/left leaning politics and WI has more German/Eastern European immigrants. Our Democratic party, the DFL, is also very strong and unified and always has been. We have the Iron Range which is huge for keeping us blue, even when some pockets of it have swung more red/purple in recent years. The Republican party in MN has never had as strong of a base or messaging as the DFL either. I do think that the differences are closer than they seem even with how far right some people in WI government are right now. We have plenty of rural communities that are super red, but our urban centers are doing a better job of holding strong with our DFL candidates. It's usually pretty close in the exurbs and rural areas that do go blue though. There is also the problem that WI has some of the worst gerrymandering in the country, so that heavily affects how the legislature is going to be made up. I do think the gerrymandering is what makes the biggest difference. I believe Minnesota has a non-partisan commission that draws our maps, Wisconsin does not. Edited to add: this is the first time in a long time one party has had the trifecta. DFL sees this as a limited time to get shit done and they are on it!
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Post by willow on May 12, 2023 11:02:54 GMT -6
I think there are several factors at play here because you are right, in general, the populations are similar. I have read articles about this in the past. One reason is because MN historically has had far more Scandinavian immigrants who tend to favor more socialist/left leaning politics and WI has more German/Eastern European immigrants. Our Democratic party, the DFL, is also very strong and unified and always has been. We have the Iron Range which is huge for keeping us blue, even when some pockets of it have swung more red/purple in recent years. The Republican party in MN has never had as strong of a base or messaging as the DFL either. I do think that the differences are closer than they seem even with how far right some people in WI government are right now. We have plenty of rural communities that are super red, but our urban centers are doing a better job of holding strong with our DFL candidates. It's usually pretty close in the exurbs and rural areas that do go blue though. There is also the problem that WI has some of the worst gerrymandering in the country, so that heavily affects how the legislature is going to be made up. I do think the gerrymandering is what makes the biggest difference. I believe Minnesota has a non-partisan commission that draws our maps, Wisconsin does not. Edited to add: this is the first time in a long time one party has had the trifecta. DFL sees this as a limited time to get shit done and they are on it! Yes and MN also has some of the best voting access laws in the country too, which helps for the DFL.
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Post by elle on May 12, 2023 13:24:56 GMT -6
Ok this? I'd probably watch.
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Post by dc2london on May 12, 2023 14:29:08 GMT -6
I do think the gerrymandering is what makes the biggest difference. I believe Minnesota has a non-partisan commission that draws our maps, Wisconsin does not. Edited to add: this is the first time in a long time one party has had the trifecta. DFL sees this as a limited time to get shit done and they are on it! IIRC there was a podcast (maybe thedaily) that went over how Wisconsin was basically a test run for Rs to gerrymander over a decade and work on the long con to maintain power. How even if a D governor is elected the R run state leg has strip the gov of most of the power. Stacking the Judges to favor them. Wisconsin was literally a test run before they took it nationwide. Yes. And once Wisconsin elected a Democratic governor, the Republicans used their gerrymandering-generated-supermajority in the legislature to strip the governorship of most of its powers, as you said. They did something similar in Michigan. They scream about rigged elections but they've had the whole game rigged for 40 years.
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Post by oreobitsy on May 12, 2023 14:40:45 GMT -6
That’s really interesting, thank you all for explaining it more! I knew Wisconsin’s gerrymandering was a hot mess of unfair. It’s really sad to think of what could have been.
I also am intrigued by the Scandinavian/German differences, I definitely see the “Minnesota Nice” when we go back for family trips. It’s beyond simple niceties and courtesy.
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