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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:01:06 GMT -6
For me, I love Pete. If America is ready for a gay candidate, that’s a separate convo. We all know how a woman did. But, if I had my pick of who should be the next candidate, that’s my guy. But, there are other viable people in the Democratic Party: Gavin, Cory, Gretchen, Elizabeth, Amy, Kamala. Some of them aren’t my picks, but there are options. I WILL NOT SAY BERNIE. I agree with you, none of them feel like it’s their time. And I think that goes back to what I said, that behind the scenes, we should have been bringing them to the spotlight, so it feels like a presidential trajectory. Much like the R’s have been doing with White Boots DeSantis. If anyone brings Bernie up as an alternative to Joe Biden being too old & white 😭 Oh they will. The delusion is strong. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:02:17 GMT -6
For me, I love Pete. If America is ready for a gay candidate, that’s a separate convo. We all know how a woman did. But, if I had my pick of who should be the next candidate, that’s my guy. But, there are other viable people in the Democratic Party: Gavin, Cory, Gretchen, Elizabeth, Amy, Kamala. Some of them aren’t my picks, but there are options. I WILL NOT SAY BERNIE. I agree with you, none of them feel like it’s their time. And I think that goes back to what I said, that behind the scenes, we should have been bringing them to the spotlight, so it feels like a presidential trajectory. Much like the R’s have been doing with White Boots DeSantis. I like all of them, but yeah none of them had a snowball's chance in hell. I adore Pete, but he'd be drowned. I guess I no longer can play the "I wish it were so" game w this, after Trump beating Hilary. It's just brass tacks who has the best shot, and that is Biden at this point. I guess if we have to go old(er) white (straight) man, we also have Phil Murphy and JB Pritzker, in addition to Gavin. The whole thing sucks. It just feels not in the best interest of the party and I’m not feeling very confident. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:03:02 GMT -6
If anyone brings Bernie up as an alternative to Joe Biden being too old & white 😭 Oh they will. The delusion is strong. I still hear them say, “I really liked Bernie.” Yeah, thanks a fucking lot for Trump. |
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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:03:07 GMT -6
I like all of them, but yeah none of them had a snowball's chance in hell. I adore Pete, but he'd be drowned. I guess I no longer can play the "I wish it were so" game w this, after Trump beating Hilary. It's just brass tacks who has the best shot, and that is Biden at this point. I guess if we have to go old(er) white (straight) man, we also have Phil Murphy and JB Pritzker, in addition to Gavin. The whole thing sucks. It just feels not in the best interest of the party and I’m not feeling very confident. I love my governor, but there was no way. A sitting president who frankly has done a good job is the best bet we have this cycle. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:04:25 GMT -6
I guess if we have to go old(er) white (straight) man, we also have Phil Murphy and JB Pritzker, in addition to Gavin. The whole thing sucks. It just feels not in the best interest of the party and I’m not feeling very confident. I love my governor, but there was no way. A sitting president who frankly has done a good job is the best bet we have this cycle. Ughhhh. I don’t like that bet. |
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:06:55 GMT -6
I can't believe I sit here thinking that we have a better chance with Biden/Trump again because I also want Trump to burn alive, so. Yeah. America sucks and I hate it here but I have no way of leaving any time soon (ever) so yayayyyy
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:07:45 GMT -6
I am genuinely pleading that we not sully the blinds with a Bernie bro debate. PLEASE. From those of us on politics that are tired. lol.
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:08:34 GMT -6
You look at other countries with younger leaders and I do believe they move much more intentional with what’s best for the country. Because they’re younger, because they have children, because they haven’t spent 800 years in office making alliances, taking donations, etc. This isn’t just about Biden, it’s all of Congress. I have little faith in their priorities, because at the end of the day, they are lifelong politicians.
Gun violence is always my #1 issue and I have little faith things will ever change until Gen Z collectively becomes voting age and votes these dinosaurs out.
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:09:00 GMT -6
I am genuinely pleading that we not sully the blinds with a Bernie bro debate. PLEASE. From those of us on politics that are tired. lol. We have pro-Bernie’s here? |
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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:09:28 GMT -6
Cher, I am with you on all that, but I also think it's easier to be young and progressive when you're talking about such smaller countries in both population and world influence.
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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:09:41 GMT -6
I am genuinely pleading that we not sully the blinds with a Bernie bro debate. PLEASE. From those of us on politics that are tired. lol. We have pro-Bernie’s here? Oh girl. Yes we do. |
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:09:59 GMT -6
I am genuinely pleading that we not sully the blinds with a Bernie bro debate. PLEASE. From those of us on politics that are tired. lol. We have pro-Bernie’s here? They are everywhere. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:10:10 GMT -6
Cher, I am with you on all that, but I also think it's easier to be young and progressive when you're talking about such smaller countries in both population and world influence. We could get a coffee and talk all day why America isn’t ready for that. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:11:09 GMT -6
We have pro-Bernie’s here? Oh girl. Yes we do.  |
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Post by Sweetjane on Apr 25, 2023 9:11:40 GMT -6
Non combative question, but who else would it be? I can't think of anyone that would reasonably be an alternative. For me, I love Pete. If America is ready for a gay candidate, that’s a separate convo. We all know how a woman did. But, if I had my pick of who should be the next candidate, that’s my guy. But, there are other viable people in the Democratic Party: Gavin, Cory, Gretchen, Elizabeth, Amy, Kamala. Some of them aren’t my picks, but there are options. I WILL NOT SAY BERNIE. I agree with you, none of them feel like it’s their time. And I think that goes back to what I said, that behind the scenes, we should have been bringing them to the spotlight, so it feels like a presidential trajectory. Much like the R’s have been doing with White Boots DeSantis. And if the Dems really wanted any of these names to be their frontrunner, they would be churning the machine to make it happen. Pete got skewered in the media the last couple of years, by no fault of his own. The party didn't come to his rescue either, I felt bad for him. |
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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:11:54 GMT -6
And they get real mad when you point out that the misogyny of that man lead to a lot of the Hillary rhetoric. Sorry willow, but if we want to talk about it here it's going to happen. The politics page is too much in a lot of ways for a lot of us. |
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:12:07 GMT -6
You look at other countries with younger leaders and I do believe they move much more intentional with what’s best for the country. Because they’re younger, because they have children, because they haven’t spent 800 years in office making alliances, taking donations, etc. This isn’t just about Biden, it’s all of Congress. I have little faith in their priorities, because at the end of the day, they are lifelong politicians. Gun violence is always my #1 issue and I have little faith things will ever change until Gen Z collectively becomes voting age and votes these dinosaurs out. Big change can't and won't happen until Congress does a major overhaul of itself. Which is against their interests so it won't happen. I agree with you about gun violence. Nothing will change until boomers and gen x get eclipsed by millennials and gen z in voting numbers. |
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Post by Sweetjane on Apr 25, 2023 9:12:26 GMT -6
We have pro-Bernie’s here? Oh girl. Yes we do. Not it. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:13:19 GMT -6
I very rarely talk politics on the board. Which is funny because in my real life I’m “the political one”. We had K orientation today and my H basically had to hold me back when they were talking open window policies. But, I woke up to that announcement and it’s made me anxious all day because I don’t feel too confident in 2024. Apologies for bringing it here.
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Post by Sweetjane on Apr 25, 2023 9:13:44 GMT -6
And they get real mad when you point out that the misogyny of that man lead to a lot of the Hillary rhetoric. Sorry willow, but if we want to talk about it here it's going to happen. The politics page is too much in a lot of ways for a lot of us. Absolutely, GD could use a breath of fresh air anyway. Or am I on Blinds? Politics has been super slow lately. |
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Post by Sweetjane on Apr 25, 2023 9:14:27 GMT -6
What's an open window policy Cher? |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:14:54 GMT -6
You look at other countries with younger leaders and I do believe they move much more intentional with what’s best for the country. Because they’re younger, because they have children, because they haven’t spent 800 years in office making alliances, taking donations, etc. This isn’t just about Biden, it’s all of Congress. I have little faith in their priorities, because at the end of the day, they are lifelong politicians. Gun violence is always my #1 issue and I have little faith things will ever change until Gen Z collectively becomes voting age and votes these dinosaurs out. Big change can't and won't happen until Congress does a major overhaul of itself. Which is against their interests so it won't happen. I agree with you about gun violence. Nothing will change until boomers and gen x get eclipsed by millennials and gen z in voting numbers. There was just a great thing I saw about this. About how by and large, millennials and Gen Z are voting democrat and we are starting to have a higher number of voters than boomers. I honestly believe change will come. It’s just going to take a bit. Fucking boomers. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:16:58 GMT -6
What's an open window policy Cher? Like, we were talking about school safety and if the ground floor windows were allowed to be opened. I’m hissing at my H, “i hope everyone who is okay with making kindergarten a prison, also doesn’t vote for candidates that kill our kids.” MH was like okkkkk, people can hear you. |
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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:17:14 GMT -6
My dad has turned from a disinterested Republican in the 80s to a reply guy pinko liberal on Twitter who regularly tells GOP politicians that they are morons, and it's so nice to know that when I say fuck Boomers, it's not him.
He likes to send me his ratios. It's hilarious.
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:17:16 GMT -6
Big change can't and won't happen until Congress does a major overhaul of itself. Which is against their interests so it won't happen. I agree with you about gun violence. Nothing will change until boomers and gen x get eclipsed by millennials and gen z in voting numbers. There was just a great thing I saw about this. About how by and large, millennials and Gen Z are voting democrat and we are starting to have a higher number of voters than boomers. I honestly believe change will come. It’s just going to take a bit. Fucking boomers. I have hope too. Through most of my despair, I do have hope. I just have to hope that myself and my loved ones all survive mass gun violence to see it. |
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Post by Cher on Apr 25, 2023 9:17:53 GMT -6
For me, I love Pete. If America is ready for a gay candidate, that’s a separate convo. We all know how a woman did. But, if I had my pick of who should be the next candidate, that’s my guy. But, there are other viable people in the Democratic Party: Gavin, Cory, Gretchen, Elizabeth, Amy, Kamala. Some of them aren’t my picks, but there are options. I WILL NOT SAY BERNIE. I agree with you, none of them feel like it’s their time. And I think that goes back to what I said, that behind the scenes, we should have been bringing them to the spotlight, so it feels like a presidential trajectory. Much like the R’s have been doing with White Boots DeSantis. And if the Dems really wanted any of these names to be their frontrunner, they would be churning the machine to make it happen. Pete got skewered in the media the last couple of years, by no fault of his own. The party didn't come to his rescue either, I felt bad for him. Yup. Totally agree. |
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Post by Sweetjane on Apr 25, 2023 9:19:22 GMT -6
Big change can't and won't happen until Congress does a major overhaul of itself. Which is against their interests so it won't happen. I agree with you about gun violence. Nothing will change until boomers and gen x get eclipsed by millennials and gen z in voting numbers. There was just a great thing I saw about this. About how by and large, millennials and Gen Z are voting democrat and we are starting to have a higher number of voters than boomers. I honestly believe change will come. It’s just going to take a bit. Fucking boomers. Case in point, the GOP trying to restrict voting for college kids. They know Gen Z won't vote for them, so they just make it more difficult. Fuckers. |
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:20:31 GMT -6
My 6.5yo primarily started Tae Kwon Do so he could protect himself against armed intruders because of all the shit they have to practice at school.
He likes it now for other reasons but after every practice so far, he's mentioned how he's learning to defend himself against people that will try to kill him. This is why this country is the worst. He is 6!
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Post by STP on Apr 25, 2023 9:21:04 GMT -6
Meanwhile, I am very excited for the WH Plumbers show on HBO in May.
Watergate is the encapsulation of American politics. All in.
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Post by willow on Apr 25, 2023 9:22:04 GMT -6
Meanwhile, I am very excited for the WH Plumbers show on HBO in May. Watergate is the encapsulation of American politics. All in. Oh my gosh, YES! I forgot about this. I have to put a reminder in my phone. |
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