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Post by emma on Mar 28, 2023 12:44:09 GMT -6
But if ski patrol weren’t worried enough to call an ambulance then why would you expect for GP to hang around on the slope with him? also, it’s a dangerous sport, please always wear a helmet ski patrol did not initially come if you believe one man. He was trying to help him down the hill and then flagged help down. The man was then out in tobaggan down and G was already gone then. The witness testified that he didn't see the instructor asking him any questions but just yelling at him. The witness also testified that he didn't know it was GP until another staff member said it. humm, see the ski instructor yelling at him makes me think he was the one that caused the crash then. Because why yell at someone not at fault?
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Post by emma on Mar 28, 2023 12:50:03 GMT -6
The screaming before collision means nothing to me, she could have seen him coming last minute and screamed pre-impact.
The SA angle is weird
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 12:50:33 GMT -6
Not going to lie I giggled when I heard the clip of them asking if she picked $1 because of Taylor Swift. I don’t know why I just did the $1 is a farce anyway cause she's asking for attorneys fees.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 12:51:19 GMT -6
ski patrol did not initially come if you believe one man. He was trying to help him down the hill and then flagged help down. The man was then out in tobaggan down and G was already gone then. The witness testified that he didn't see the instructor asking him any questions but just yelling at him. The witness also testified that he didn't know it was GP until another staff member said it. humm, see the ski instructor yelling at him makes me think he was the one that caused the crash then. Because why yell at someone not at fault? because he knew it was Gwyneth Paltrow is the assertion.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 12:52:49 GMT -6
The screaming before collision means nothing to me, she could have seen him coming last minute and screamed pre-impact. The SA angle is weird This is true but her story is he hit her from behind. That she saw skiis come in between her skiis from behind. Her story. The scream. And the injuries have me leaning more towards him.
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Post by emma on Mar 28, 2023 12:53:18 GMT -6
humm, see the ski instructor yelling at him makes me think he was the one that caused the crash then. Because why yell at someone not at fault? because he knew it was Gwyneth Paltrow is the assertion. I can see that. It’s really hard to know without video, i don’t know how a judge or jury can vote either way without better evidence
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Post by bloom on Mar 28, 2023 13:15:38 GMT -6
there's no specific thing, at least not yet. no one witnessed it and there's no video evidence. I think Ramone claims he witnessed it, but I think he's lying and full of it. he hasn't persuaded me otherwise. nothing's been proven one way or the other. Why do you think he's lying? well, I've listened to both sides and at this point, it's just my impression. he comes off as suspect to me.
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Post by bloom on Mar 28, 2023 13:17:31 GMT -6
Not going to lie I giggled when I heard the clip of them asking if she picked $1 because of Taylor Swift. I don’t know why I just did the $1 is a farce anyway cause she's asking for attorneys fees. she is, but that is totally reasonable in my opinion! why shouldn't she be reimbursed? I'm not some GP stan, just trying to be open minded. I think TS has a separate claim against DV, too.
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Post by bloom on Mar 28, 2023 13:19:44 GMT -6
as for the noises, GP testified that TS grunted AS he collided with her, which lead her to think briefly that it was a possible sexual assault. I saw mention of this in the other thread and wonder how we got here? I don't really know what happened but I find this narrative making me lean a way. How can 2 people crashing into one another make you think possible SA? I do believe he was down and did not just pop up. Also according to witnesses she did not remove any of her Headwear on the hill so no one then knew it was her. I would think colliding bodies would make me grunt in pain. 🤷🏻♀️ from what she said- it was a fleeting thought b/c it was a slow collision- she didn't know what was happening right away. who the fuck knows. I hear what you're saying.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 28, 2023 13:30:59 GMT -6
ski patrol did not initially come if you believe one man. He was trying to help him down the hill and then flagged help down. The man was then out in tobaggan down and G was already gone then. The witness testified that he didn't see the instructor asking him any questions but just yelling at him. The witness also testified that he didn't know it was GP until another staff member said it. humm, see the ski instructor yelling at him makes me think he was the one that caused the crash then. Because why yell at someone not at fault? Because he knew that the other person was GP and $$$$ talks
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Post by angelashly on Mar 28, 2023 13:53:35 GMT -6
I saw mention of this in the other thread and wonder how we got here? I don't really know what happened but I find this narrative making me lean a way. How can 2 people crashing into one another make you think possible SA? I do believe he was down and did not just pop up. Also according to witnesses she did not remove any of her Headwear on the hill so no one then knew it was her. I would think colliding bodies would make me grunt in pain. 🤷🏻♀️ from what she said- it was a fleeting thought b/c it was a slow collision- she didn't know what was happening right away. who the fuck knows. I hear what you're saying. Which is why she knew exactly what she was doing when she mentioned it.
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 28, 2023 14:11:48 GMT -6
from what she said- it was a fleeting thought b/c it was a slow collision- she didn't know what was happening right away. who the fuck knows. I hear what you're saying. Which is why she knew exactly what she was doing when she mentioned it. Yeah I agree. OK if that was your first thought-- but it clearly wasn't the case at all so why even mention it except to try to put him in a negative light?
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Post by angelashly on Mar 28, 2023 14:27:54 GMT -6
Which is why she knew exactly what she was doing when she mentioned it. Yeah I agree. OK if that was your first thought-- but it clearly wasn't the case at all so why even mention it except to try to put him in a negative light? It seems to be working
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 14:37:55 GMT -6
I don't know, I really hate to think this of any woman. But come on, she knew what she was doing. By her own report, she had people around her and was not alone.
Same for him.
It was broad daylight with people all around including the people both were skiing with.
I feel even if it was a thought, it didn't need to be said. Some people hear that and right away think something. Not to mention his advanced age in regards to bringing someone down to assault them in that manner. I know she didn't know his age at that time but learned it later.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 14:40:13 GMT -6
the $1 is a farce anyway cause she's asking for attorneys fees. she is, but that is totally reasonable in my opinion! why shouldn't she be reimbursed? I'm not some GP stan, just trying to be open minded. I think TS has a separate claim against DV, too. No. Not necessarily. Most of the celebrity cases I follow do not ask for attorney's fees. Usually, the person who is not the celebrity does. Even then it's often argued cause what if you went and got the most expensive one banking on the other person to pay for them. So often even these amounts can be litigated. This is not to be confused with court costs and or fines.
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Post by hugsfordrugs on Mar 28, 2023 14:43:29 GMT -6
I don't know, I really hate to think this of any woman. But come on, she knew what she was doing. By her own report, she had people around her and was not alone. Same for him. It was broad daylight with people all around including the people both were skiing with. I feel even if it was a thought, it didn't need to be said. Some people hear that and right away think something. Not to mention his advanced age in regards to bringing someone down to assault them in that manner. I know she didn't know his age at that time but learned it later. I completely agree and also hate to think this of any woman. It just felt gross that she even said it.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 28, 2023 14:58:32 GMT -6
the $1 is a farce anyway cause she's asking for attorneys fees. she is, but that is totally reasonable in my opinion! why shouldn't she be reimbursed? I'm not some GP stan, just trying to be open minded. I think TS has a separate claim against DV, too. It’s totally reasonable for a celebrity worth millions to be asking for lawyer fees from someone who is not worth as much? Especially when she can’t prove he isn’t lying? I don’t know it seems like a lot but I know it’s a thing I’ve just never seen celebrities doing it.
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 28, 2023 15:02:21 GMT -6
Seeing clips of her on the stand makes me glad I'm not on the jury. She has such a punch able face with her smug attitude
I would not be able to listen without bias. Lol
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Post by brux on Mar 28, 2023 15:07:14 GMT -6
she is, but that is totally reasonable in my opinion! why shouldn't she be reimbursed? I'm not some GP stan, just trying to be open minded. I think TS has a separate claim against DV, too. It’s totally reasonable for a celebrity worth millions to be asking for lawyer fees from someone who is not worth as much? Especially when she can’t prove he isn’t lying? I don’t know it seems like a lot but I know it’s a thing I’ve just never seen celebrities doing it. She only gets lawyer fees if she wins, and if she wins, it's the court saying his account is not believable and hers is. It's common in lawsuits to ask for recovery of your litigation fees and expenses if you win. Rich people, poor people, giant companies, small companies all do it. It's a deterrent against people filing frivolous lawsuits and going all the way to trial.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 15:19:17 GMT -6
In recent years, the only celebrity that I recall really sticking to the lawyers fees was 50 cent.
Britney Spears mother as well but she is not a celebrity to me and she wanted Britney to pay for it because she hired them to assist her. BS declined and last I checked I believe they were going to court.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 28, 2023 15:33:53 GMT -6
It’s totally reasonable for a celebrity worth millions to be asking for lawyer fees from someone who is not worth as much? Especially when she can’t prove he isn’t lying? I don’t know it seems like a lot but I know it’s a thing I’ve just never seen celebrities doing it. She only gets lawyer fees if she wins, and if she wins, it's the court saying his account is not believable and hers is. It's common in lawsuits to ask for recovery of your litigation fees and expenses if you win. Rich people, poor people, giant companies, small companies all do it. It's a deterrent against people filing frivolous lawsuits and going all the way to trial. I guess
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Post by flojo on Mar 28, 2023 15:34:48 GMT -6
Seeing clips of her on the stand makes me glad I'm not on the jury. She has such a punch able face with her smug attitude I would not be able to listen without bias. Lol I really thought I couldn’t like her less, but she proved me wrong 😂
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Post by Cher on Mar 28, 2023 15:42:36 GMT -6
Lawyer fees are common. Even in celeb cases.
Kardashian’s and Blac Chyna, Dr Phil, Cardi B.
Most lawyers will advise the client to ask for those too.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 28, 2023 15:44:24 GMT -6
Lawyer fees are common. Even in celeb cases. Kardashian’s and Blac Chyna, Dr Phil, Cardi B. Most lawyers will advise the client to ask for those too. But those were celebrities suing celebrities right? She can ask for whatever she wants I’m not saying otherwise I’m just saying her suing for $1 and being all see I don’t care it’s the principal is lost on me when you are also asking for lawyer fees. I get not everyone does
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Post by Cher on Mar 28, 2023 15:48:36 GMT -6
Lawyer fees are common. Even in celeb cases. Kardashian’s and Blac Chyna, Dr Phil, Cardi B. Most lawyers will advise the client to ask for those too. But those were celebrities suing celebrities right? She can ask for whatever she wants I’m not saying otherwise I’m just saying her suing for $1 and being all see I don’t care it’s the principal is lost on me when you are also asking for lawyer fees. I get not everyone does No. Just Kardashian and Blac Chyna. But it is the principal. It’s called being made whole. So the dollar is the principle. The lawyer fees are to keep her in the same position she started out in. If she sunk hundreds of thousands into lawyers, she’s taking the hit. So, she wants the cost covered defending her suit, but she’s not looking to financially profit.
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Post by Cher on Mar 28, 2023 15:54:53 GMT -6
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Post by Cher on Mar 28, 2023 15:56:20 GMT -6
Goop is the worst but this guy is so inconsistent and not reliable. Now he has split personalities due to her.
This whole trial is a shit show.
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Post by AmyG on Mar 28, 2023 16:15:48 GMT -6
The screaming before collision means nothing to me, she could have seen him coming last minute and screamed pre-impact. The SA angle is weird This is true but her story is he hit her from behind. That she saw skiis come in between her skiis from behind. Her story. The scream. And the injuries have me leaning more towards him. The skiis coming in between her skiis from behind thing I've seen happen in a lot of falls. and there's always quite a few screams of one party watch out and the other one oh shit and skiiers nearby also screaming. I think most likely he was behind skiing fast and gained on her and went to pass too close. that explains why both of them claim they were in front when they were side by side ish a the time of collision. If there's any evidence that he was the uphill skiier then the fault is all his for not avoiding overtaking her, and doing a poor job of passing by. Him having eyesight issues and maybe almost blind in one eye makes me think he probably shouldn't have been on the slopes.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 16:17:03 GMT -6
Lawyer fees are common. Even in celeb cases. Kardashian’s and Blac Chyna, Dr Phil, Cardi B. Most lawyers will advise the client to ask for those too. But those were celebrities suing celebrities right? She can ask for whatever she wants I’m not saying otherwise I’m just saying her suing for $1 and being all see I don’t care it’s the principal is lost on me when you are also asking for lawyer fees. I get not everyone does Cardi B was suing and well known blogger so that falls into celebrity to me. I know her name as do several people do. With Dr. Phil the case was dismissed and then he filed suit for fees as did CBS. Again, often done to deter from frivolous claims.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 28, 2023 16:20:09 GMT -6
This is true but her story is he hit her from behind. That she saw skiis come in between her skiis from behind. Her story. The scream. And the injuries have me leaning more towards him. The skiis coming in between her skiis from behind thing I've seen happen in a lot of falls. and there's always quite a few screams of one party watch out and the other one oh shit and skiiers nearby also screaming. I think most likely he was behind skiing fast and gained on her and went to pass too close. that explains why both of them claim they were in front when they were side by side ish a the time of collision. If there's any evidence that he was the uphill skiier then the fault is all his for not avoiding overtaking her, and doing a poor job of passing by. Him having eyesight issues and maybe almost blind in one eye makes me think he probably shouldn't have been on the slopes. For me (and yes I can be totally wrong) all his injuries being on one side makes me think it was not a from behind collision. I am a subject matter expert in my field in regards to vision and you can lose your whole eye, you still have near acuity, far acuity, depth perception, and accommodation of the remaining eye to contend with. Loss of the one eye would affect your peripheral field of vision. You can drive with one eye, I don't see why one should not ski with one eye.
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