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Post by icedcoffee on Jan 19, 2023 14:03:50 GMT -6
Penis humor is not universal 🤣🤣
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Post by willow on Jan 19, 2023 14:08:09 GMT -6
Penis humor is not universal 🤣🤣 LOL you know what I mean. People will get offended, grossed out, "oh that's too much" about body part humor.
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Post by icedcoffee on Jan 19, 2023 14:10:17 GMT -6
Penis humor is not universal 🤣🤣 LOL you know what I mean. People will get offended, grossed out, "oh that's too much" about body part humor. I did it was just funny reading lol
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Post by sifl on Jan 19, 2023 14:16:41 GMT -6
I think it’s really the preparation for Harry and Meghan’s wedding where Kate doesn’t come off great. Like Meghan was going through other shit and Kate was concerned about the dress not fitting Charlotte. But I mostly believe it happened that way. 🤷♀️ I did jump ahead to this part and where they hashed it out and dick Will had to insert himself and his finger into the situation. Also and possibly UO, I don't believe Charlotte cried about her dress not fitting properly. She was 3 and she could have been crying for any number of reasons, but I find it highly sketch that she understood her dress was too big or that even if she did, she would cry about it. And even if she did, why does the bride need that detail? Hint: she doesn’t.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 19, 2023 14:17:48 GMT -6
People don't have to find the penis talk amusing but the pearl-clutching as if it was the worst thing he could have said is just ridiculous to me.
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Post by sifl on Jan 19, 2023 14:18:59 GMT -6
There are quite a few passages of the book that people are taking way more seriously or critical than I did. I did find it a little "Huh" when he revealed that they had to get MORE gas for Meghan, lol. But in all, I felt the whole penis stuff to be his attempt at humor and maybe it just falling flat because penis humor is not really a universal thing. I mean, it is a memoir. I don't get why people keep shouting about "oversharing". That is literally what a memoir is for. Speaking in general here, not at any particular person in this thread/on this board. And I have zero sympathy for Will/Kate/Charles/Camilla and how they come off in the book. Zero. If he held back more people would be complaining that he left stuff out. I think all the detail is great. Put it all out there, H, even the stuff that makes you look bad.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 19, 2023 14:20:04 GMT -6
I did jump ahead to this part and where they hashed it out and dick Will had to insert himself and his finger into the situation. Also and possibly UO, I don't believe Charlotte cried about her dress not fitting properly. She was 3 and she could have been crying for any number of reasons, but I find it highly sketch that she understood her dress was too big or that even if she did, she would cry about it. And even if she did, why does the bride need that detail? Hint: she doesn’t. Right!?!
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Post by Sundae on Jan 19, 2023 14:31:12 GMT -6
On the gas thing, too, they don't start each room with a full tank. Like don't get me wrong, it's fucking ridiculous that the husband is using it at all. But it's not always at 100% for each patient coming in. Like so there may have only been like 10% left, Harry uses it, then they have to go get more. Like, fucking asshole. I wish we used that here. Seems like a much better pain relief tool than IV drug or epidurals for coping in smaller bursts/controlled relief.
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Post by willow on Jan 19, 2023 14:31:52 GMT -6
People don't have to find the penis talk amusing but the pearl-clutching as if it was the worst thing he could have said is just ridiculous to me. Right, exactly. It feels like because of who "wrote" it, the reaction is the way it is. If it were like, Will Ferrell writing his memoir and throwing in a story about a frostbitten dick, waaay different reaction. People don't expect a prince from a historically prude and buttoned up family to make dick jokes/stories. Just another reason why Harry was clearly not meant to be in that family lol.
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Post by tinyjoys on Jan 19, 2023 15:17:12 GMT -6
+1000 A three year old isn’t going to cry over how a dress fits unless her mom is throwing such a fit it stresses her out. I was listening this morning and got so irritated at so many of them. Other than the Sussexes. Charles saying he couldn’t afford for Meghan to stop working? And Harry saying she doesn’t even eat that much I didn’t know if I should laugh or be mad It sounded very much like a boy pleading his case for a puppy.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 15:24:30 GMT -6
On the gas thing, too, they don't start each room with a full tank. Like don't get me wrong, it's fucking ridiculous that the husband is using it at all. But it's not always at 100% for each patient coming in. Like so there may have only been like 10% left, Harry uses it, then they have to go get more. Like, fucking asshole. I wish we used that here. Seems like a much better pain relief tool than IV drug or epidurals for coping in smaller bursts/controlled relief. this makes sense!
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 15:27:10 GMT -6
I find it very telling that the Charlotte was bullied and Meghan made her cry at the wedding came out right at the theme of the Queen’s funeral
Shocked I tell you SHOCKED
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 15:29:42 GMT -6
Also I very much feel Harry gave Will and Kate a pass about the stories in the press. I believe him that he believes Camilla did all the talking. I don’t
Or Will for sure knew Camilla would leak it which is why it was “accidentally told to her”
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Post by thatgolfb on Jan 19, 2023 15:38:17 GMT -6
There are quite a few passages of the book that people are taking way more seriously or critical than I did. I did find it a little "Huh" when he revealed that they had to get MORE gas for Meghan, lol. But in all, I felt the whole penis stuff to be his attempt at humor and maybe it just falling flat because penis humor is not really a universal thing. I mean, it is a memoir. I don't get why people keep shouting about "oversharing". That is literally what a memoir is for. Speaking in general here, not at any particular person in this thread/on this board. And I have zero sympathy for Will/Kate/Charles/Camilla and how they come off in the book. Zero. Oh yes, another point I have made with people hypercritical of this book- this is the first memoir in a long time I remember people saying “this guy is a liar.” Based on… what? Little nit picky details? I mean, okay, but go ahead and keep that same energy for other memoirs, too.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jan 19, 2023 15:39:36 GMT -6
There are quite a few passages of the book that people are taking way more seriously or critical than I did. I did find it a little "Huh" when he revealed that they had to get MORE gas for Meghan, lol. But in all, I felt the whole penis stuff to be his attempt at humor and maybe it just falling flat because penis humor is not really a universal thing. I mean, it is a memoir. I don't get why people keep shouting about "oversharing". That is literally what a memoir is for. Speaking in general here, not at any particular person in this thread/on this board. And I have zero sympathy for Will/Kate/Charles/Camilla and how they come off in the book. Zero. If he held back more people would be complaining that he left stuff out. I think all the detail is great. Put it all out there, H, even the stuff that makes you look bad. Yes! He didn’t exactly make himself look like a saint. Same with the documentary. He mentioned implicit bias within the Windsor family- including himself. Something he is actively working on. He didn’t just throw everyone else under the bus.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 19, 2023 15:45:50 GMT -6
I find it very telling that the Charlotte was bullied and Meghan made her cry at the wedding came out right at the theme of the Queen’s funeral Shocked I tell you SHOCKED
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 19, 2023 15:47:10 GMT -6
There are quite a few passages of the book that people are taking way more seriously or critical than I did. I did find it a little "Huh" when he revealed that they had to get MORE gas for Meghan, lol. But in all, I felt the whole penis stuff to be his attempt at humor and maybe it just falling flat because penis humor is not really a universal thing. I mean, it is a memoir. I don't get why people keep shouting about "oversharing". That is literally what a memoir is for. Speaking in general here, not at any particular person in this thread/on this board. And I have zero sympathy for Will/Kate/Charles/Camilla and how they come off in the book. Zero. Oh yes, another point I have made with people hypercritical of this book- this is the first memoir in a long time I remember people saying “this guy is a liar.” Based on… what? Little nit picky details? I mean, okay, but go ahead and keep that same energy for other memoirs, too. Except they don't. And Harry is a lying liar who lies but Charles, Camilla, and Wills are the bastions of truth? Come the fuck on.
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Post by claudia on Jan 19, 2023 15:49:58 GMT -6
If he held back more people would be complaining that he left stuff out. I think all the detail is great. Put it all out there, H, even the stuff that makes you look bad. Yes! He didn’t exactly make himself look like a saint. Same with the documentary. He mentioned implicit bias within the Windsor family- including himself. Something he is actively working on. He didn’t just throw everyone else under the bus. Yeah, like the bridesmaid story- someone (on Twitter not here) said “you don’t know that those were the actual texts between kate and Meghan and he didn’t make those up.” Which, true. But I don’t go into any memoir thinking it’s all lies, or I’d just have no interest. Thinking critically and realizing some parts are perspective? Sure. And with those texts, I think if he was making them up, he would have made Meghan’s less snappy as well. They read like a complaining sister in law bothering a stressed out bride and neither one bothering to hide their feelings.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 19, 2023 15:54:13 GMT -6
I'm also tired of hearing that Harry should have aired his grievances privately and as soon as he felt wronged.
#1 - it's pretty clear he already tried that and we see how well that went with Charles and Will playing surprised Pikachu after Philip's funeral and that they STILL didn't understand why he and Meghan left. They knew and they just didn't give a shit. Which is easy to do when you're not the main subject of tabloid fodder anymore. Oh no, they've got juicier fish to fry like your grandchildren and nephew/niece.
#2 - So Harry is supposed to speak up in a family that espouses to a "never complain, never explain" approach? Like the time when Charles made the oh-so-hilarious crack about him not being Harry's father when he should have been well aware of the Hewitt rumors. That they were false is not the point. It wasn't funny. It was cruel. The mental gymnastics to defend Charles here with "oh, he probably didn't know about the rumors" or "he was joking about something a mental patient, claiming to be the POW, said" (which not okay to make fun of mental patients either) are mind-boggling. And Harry was a KID at the time. So hugest of eye-rolls that he should have confronted Charles.
I think it is only in the last few years with Meghan in his life and as his wife and encouraging him to get the right therapist that he is only truly uncovering how fucked up his family is.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 15:56:16 GMT -6
I'm also tired of hearing that Harry should have aired his grievances privately and as soon as he felt wronged. #1 - it's pretty clear he already tried that and we see how well that went with Charles and Will playing surprised Pikachu after Philip's funeral and that they STILL didn't understand why he and Meghan left. They knew and they just didn't give a shit. Which is easy to do when you're not the main subject of tabloid fodder anymore. Oh no, they've got juicier fish to fry like your grandchildren and nephew/niece. #2 - So Harry is supposed to speak up in a family that espouses to a "never complain, never explain" approach? Like the time when Charles made the oh-so-hilarious crack about him not being Harry's father when he should have been well aware of the Hewitt rumors. That they were false is not the point. It wasn't funny. It was cruel. The mental gymnastics to defend Charles here with "oh, he probably didn't know about the rumors" or "he was joking about something a mental patient, claiming to be the POW" (which not okay to make fun of mental patients either) are mind-boggling. And Harry was a kid at the time. So hugest of eye-rolls that he should have confronted Charles. I think it is only in the last few years with Meghan in his life and as his wife and encouraging him to get the right therapist that he is only truly uncovering how fucked up his family is. And Will telling him to get help because he felt he was being brainwashed.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 19, 2023 16:00:09 GMT -6
I'm also tired of hearing that Harry should have aired his grievances privately and as soon as he felt wronged. #1 - it's pretty clear he already tried that and we see how well that went with Charles and Will playing surprised Pikachu after Philip's funeral and that they STILL didn't understand why he and Meghan left. They knew and they just didn't give a shit. Which is easy to do when you're not the main subject of tabloid fodder anymore. Oh no, they've got juicier fish to fry like your grandchildren and nephew/niece. #2 - So Harry is supposed to speak up in a family that espouses to a "never complain, never explain" approach? Like the time when Charles made the oh-so-hilarious crack about him not being Harry's father when he should have been well aware of the Hewitt rumors. That they were false is not the point. It wasn't funny. It was cruel. The mental gymnastics to defend Charles here with "oh, he probably didn't know about the rumors" or "he was joking about something a mental patient, claiming to be the POW" (which not okay to make fun of mental patients either) are mind-boggling. And Harry was a kid at the time. So hugest of eye-rolls that he should have confronted Charles. I think it is only in the last few years with Meghan in his life and as his wife and encouraging him to get the right therapist that he is only truly uncovering how fucked up his family is. And Will telling him to get help because he felt he was being brainwashed. That is rich, considering Will is one of the biggest BRF Kool-Aid drinkers of all time. And also, I'm tired of hearing Will has it harder, as the heir. No one is forcing him to do this. While I have sympathy for him with losing Diana and him having to be his mother's confidante, I don't have sympathy for him as the heir. Especially when he could speak out about soccer players or Kate being bothered by paps but his nephew being compared to a chimp? Nope, not a word. His brother, his SIL, and nephew getting death threats? Silence.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 16:03:04 GMT -6
And Will telling him to get help because he felt he was being brainwashed. That is rich, considering Will is one of the biggest BRF Kool-Aid drinkers of all time. And also, I'm tired of hearing Will has it harder, as the heir. No one is forcing him to do this. While I have sympathy for him with losing Diana and him having to be his mother's confidante, I don't have sympathy for him as the heir. Especially when he could speak out about soccer players or Kate being bothered by paps but his nephew being compared to a chimp? Nope, not a word. His brother, his SIL, and nephew getting death threats? Silence. And to have it said his new sil went from slavery to princess The headlines and things he talked about made me sick. I love how Harry mentioned the times they sued
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Post by STP on Jan 19, 2023 16:09:58 GMT -6
My three yr old would absolutely have cried over her dress not fitting. She would have done it at two as well.
She's a fashionista and always has been.
So I don't see the need to doubt that part.
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Post by STP on Jan 19, 2023 16:12:17 GMT -6
I think weddings are stressful.
I think having your child in a wedding is really stressful.
I think having your child in a wedding when you are literally still lactating and bleeding from giving birth would be extremely stressful.
And I think doing all that on the world stage would be almost impossible.
Being a royal apologist is silly. I just don't know WHY Kate having a human moment - maybe a totally cunty one! The horror - is the story. The story is how the palace spun it, not that she was maybe - understandably in my mind - like this is your wedding, you fix it, my tit has a newborn attached and I need a new pair of mesh panties at this moment, and I really don't need tabloid stories about how I let my daughter in public in a dress that doesn't fit bc you know it will be my fault.
I have never been a Kate fan and this group makes me cape for her, and it's weird for me.
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Post by STP on Jan 19, 2023 16:17:22 GMT -6
It never felt like Camilla gave a shit about those boys.
So H owes her nothing, including a private discussion of their issues.
Fuck that, mention it all a la Housewives.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 16:35:53 GMT -6
I think weddings are stressful. I think having your child in a wedding is really stressful. I think having your child in a wedding when you are literally still lactating and bleeding from giving birth would be extremely stressful. And I think doing all that on the world stage would be almost impossible. Being a royal apologist is silly. I just don't know WHY Kate having a human moment - maybe a totally cunty one! The horror - is the story. The story is how the palace spun it, not that she was maybe - understandably in my mind - like this is your wedding, you fix it, my tit has a newborn attached and I need a new pair of mesh panties at this moment, and I really don't need tabloid stories about how I let my daughter in public in a dress that doesn't fit bc you know it will be my fault. I have never been a Kate fan and this group makes me cape for her, and it's weird for me. But I guess my problem is Meg did fix it by having someone on sight. It’s ok to admit that Kate did something bitchy. She acknowledged it and apologized. Like you said they are both human. Both were probably equally bitchy I’m not disputing that. I also realize that a lot of this rings to close to comfort. My sister gets away with a lot of bitchy comments and responsibility because kids and a stressful job
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Post by STP on Jan 19, 2023 16:40:51 GMT -6
I think weddings are stressful. I think having your child in a wedding is really stressful. I think having your child in a wedding when you are literally still lactating and bleeding from giving birth would be extremely stressful. And I think doing all that on the world stage would be almost impossible. Being a royal apologist is silly. I just don't know WHY Kate having a human moment - maybe a totally cunty one! The horror - is the story. The story is how the palace spun it, not that she was maybe - understandably in my mind - like this is your wedding, you fix it, my tit has a newborn attached and I need a new pair of mesh panties at this moment, and I really don't need tabloid stories about how I let my daughter in public in a dress that doesn't fit bc you know it will be my fault. I have never been a Kate fan and this group makes me cape for her, and it's weird for me. But I guess my problem is Meg did fix it by having someone on sight. It’s ok to admit that Kate did something bitchy. She acknowledged it and apologized. Like you said they are both human. Both were probably equally bitchy I’m not disputing that. I also realize that a lot of this rings to close to comfort. My sister gets away with a lot of bitchy comments and responsibility because kids and a stressful job I don't want to beat the horse that is well buried. We weren't there. So who is to say how people said what, and what was being communicated with all the people in between who were part of putting on the literal wedding of a prince. They weren't dealing with the David's Bridal seamstress and the cousin of a college roommate who donated their services as planner. The story isn't the women. The story is the palace and their bullshit. I do think you (and others) really project on this situation that is strange to me. It's not your wedding, it's not what happened with your sister. I love you, but I don't know why you keep doing that when I can see that you are aware of it.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 16:40:56 GMT -6
It never felt like Camilla gave a shit about those boys. So H owes her nothing, including a private discussion of their issues. Fuck that, mention it all a la Housewives. Nope not at all. I keep seeing how she has kids and grandkids Harry should think about and ………..
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Post by angelashly on Jan 19, 2023 16:42:44 GMT -6
But I guess my problem is Meg did fix it by having someone on sight. It’s ok to admit that Kate did something bitchy. She acknowledged it and apologized. Like you said they are both human. Both were probably equally bitchy I’m not disputing that. I also realize that a lot of this rings to close to comfort. My sister gets away with a lot of bitchy comments and responsibility because kids and a stressful job I don't want to beat the horse that is well buried. We weren't there. So who is to say how people said what, and what was being communicated with all the people in between who were part of putting on the literal wedding of a prince. They weren't dealing with the David's Bridal seamstress and the cousin of a college roommate who donated their services as planner. The story isn't the women. The story is the palace and their bullshit. I do think you (and others) really project on this situation that is strange to me. It's not your wedding, it's not what happened with your sister. I love you, but I don't know why you keep doing that when I can see that you are aware of it. But you’re right we weren’t there, but also ok
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Post by claudia on Jan 19, 2023 17:21:14 GMT -6
I mean, we weren’t there, but we’re reading a book written by someone who was. He’s describing bitchy behavior. While acknowledging that could be his perspective, I don’t think we are out of line for assuming Kate was being a bitch. And if his account of a month later is reasonably accurate, she was still being bitchy then. I’m not going to justify it by saying hormones because according to Will, that’s rude and isn’t done.
The further I get in the book, the more I dislike Camilla and Will. Never really liked any of them, but Will’s whole “it’s not fair you get to keep your beard when I can’t” and telling Harry for years before he met Meghan that maybe he’d never meet anyone and he just needed to learn to be okay with that…. I can’t imagine saying that to a friend expressing hope they would meet someone soon, let alone a sibling.
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