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Post by angelashly on Jul 25, 2017 7:25:14 GMT -6
You guys better not leave this thread! I guess I could do the free 2 week trial
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 7:34:26 GMT -6
I like the color coding of the food choices. One of my main main gripes with Weight Watchers is that it encourages the eating of a lot of super processed diet foods. Which are outrageously disgusting to me. This is my problem with weight watchers too. It changed a bit but I hate that processed kraft single is 1 point and a slice or sargento cheddar is 6. I prefer whole fat dairy since it has less sugar and carbs compared to the lame fat free dairy. It just doesn't fit with my lifestyle (not sure if this is the word I want to use). Fruit and veggies are 0 points but I mean eating 5 bananas a day is an extra 500 calories give or take. It was obviously not working for me since I would eat a lot of fruit and vegetables.
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Post by brux on Jul 25, 2017 7:37:41 GMT -6
I like the color coding of the food choices. One of my main main gripes with Weight Watchers is that it encourages the eating of a lot of super processed diet foods. Which are outrageously disgusting to me. this was always my gripe too. But I took a new look at their SmartPoints plan (new as of Jan 2016, I think) and the points formula penalizes sugar pretty heavily. I think the formula as it is now pushes you to eat more real foods. For someone with a big sweet or carb tooth, I have no complaints about their current plan.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 7:43:49 GMT -6
Even though I failed at the Whole30, I think the sugar things was eye opening. I already try very hard to focus on "real" foods, but I still had a lot of things to amend in my eating habits. Calories and fat from whole foods are better for you, and should be given more approval, than fake shit. I did 1.5 whole30s and it has shifted my outlook on what type of food I eat. My problem is I eat too much. I think whole30 is really beneficial for anyone to help become more aware of labels. I'm just not interested in eating something with the first ingredient is sugar but it's 2 points!
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Post by brux on Jul 25, 2017 7:45:17 GMT -6
I hear you with the fake vs. real cheese. When I was in my 20s on WW, I was all about finding the lowest point garbage foods I could find. Now that I'm much older and a tiny bit wiser, I know that I feel better with real foods. And I've convinced myself that fat free cheese is poison. I should either eat the 6 point cheese or skip in entirely.
I get nervous with calorie counting because I can just eat 5 donuts and stay in my calorie range, albeit in Noom's red zone.
tl;dr I think there's ways to game the system in any diet and there are downfalls to each.
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Post by brux on Jul 25, 2017 7:48:04 GMT -6
I've never done a Whole30. But I have followed along when everyone does it. And I've gotten some really good recipes out of the deal.
Basically, eat a shit ton of veggies, a medium amount of protein, some fruits, limit carbs and sugar. I'm going to (TM) that and call it the Brux diet.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 7:49:18 GMT -6
Apparently I have beef with ww. Lol
i plan to have a 1/2 banana, 1c frozen raspberries, 1/2 c OJ, 1 c almond milk, 1/2 plain Greek yogurt, and handful of spinach for a smoothie.
Lunch... I need ideas
Dinner meal planning today.
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Post by brux on Jul 25, 2017 7:50:09 GMT -6
I'm going to venture a guess that all of us *know* what to do to lose weight. Sure, we could use some refreshers and some new meal or food ideas.
Why I'm fat is because I eat food with limited nutritional value, in quantities that are too large, in frequencies that are too high.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 7:52:01 GMT -6
ETA: One of the real reasons I want to do a Whole 30 is because I want to do a hardcore sugar detox. I am insanely addicted to sugar. I need to chill and do a full detox. I need to do a whole30 soon. My sweet tooth is out of control. Holy shit, Sunday SO downed an entire mini cake from the giant bakery plus a slice of chocolate cake. What the fuck is wrong with us. I use to not be into desserts but this past year it's spiraled out of control. Yes I can eat an absurd amount of food.
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Post by brux on Jul 25, 2017 7:54:44 GMT -6
GhoatMonket turned me on to ZDoggMD. I hate everything about his name. But I watched a few of his videos last week and they resonated with me. The diet he follows is some strange fasting thing, but I found the bulk of this video to be really useful. zdoggmd.com/incident-report-024/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 8:14:39 GMT -6
I have serious issues with the fake "food" industry. I could spend a lot of time discussing it, but I'll spare you for now. I have a couple of family members that work in marketing for a major junk food company, and what they tell me is absolutely outrageous.
I did notice that Noom does the thing where it rates fat free dairy well and full fat dairy poorly, but I understand it's calorie based, so that's limiting, IMO.
I've done several whole30s, and while they didn't help me from a long-term weight loss perspective, they were helpful in other ways. I discovered a new way of eating, and I learned how much better I feel when I cut crap out of my diet. And not just feel better in an everyday sense- I don't understand the connection but when I eat better, I sleep better, which definitely contributes to feeling better. My skin (which is always problematic) cleared up so much when I cleaned up my diet. Perhaps the biggest overall change was learning about small changes and substitutions that are easy to implement and impact me positively- I discovered I actually prefer my coffee black, and except for sushi, I'd just as soon have cauliflower rice. TJs make a frozen version that is absolutely accessible to me from a preparation and time perspective. Those are two small changes that I've been able to implement long term, with no negative impact on my life. And I legit think it's been two years since I last used artificial sweetener.
So, I'm still not thin, but maybe better off than I was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 8:16:28 GMT -6
I wish booze was my issue. I'm all about that cake. Ha! I wish cake were my issue. I swear to all things holy I would never eat another bite of cake for my entire life if wine were good for me and slimming.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 8:23:32 GMT -6
My SO suffers from a severe case of excema and high blood pressure. During whole30 he went to the doctors 2 weeks in and I kid you not his excema cleared up completely and his blood pressure was back to a healthy number. However, we didn't do the slow introduction of foods so we are not sure what He should stay away from for his excema.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 25, 2017 8:26:07 GMT -6
I don't really agree with total elimination diets, as a rule, so while I think the Whole30 is good for a reset it's not a sustainable lifestyle. But they admit that, so it's starting off on a more realistic foot. Although I find the authors insufferable. This is far nicer than what I have to say about them. I despise the "failure" mentality that they/their followers push. Oh, you ate 1 non-compliant thing? Fuck you, you suck at life, you can't be with us any more.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 8:29:51 GMT -6
Has anyone looked at your analysis? I entered my breakfast and notice the yellow and red food show 40/300 calories for red food. So it seems that they recommend the amount of calories per day for the yellow and red food. Am I making sense? I haven't finished my first cup of coffee yet..
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Post by headinthesand on Jul 25, 2017 8:57:45 GMT -6
I also like the red, yellow & green summary they have, especially like everyone says eating bad quality, low calorie foods is just swapping one bad behavior for another & isn't a long-term positive change. I'm finding myself doing what I call a modified Whole 30, like thisbitch, protein plus lots of veggies. I seem to be awesome during the day & I cave late at night or with sweets...for the first time forever I didn't do this yesterday! One day at a time!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:02:21 GMT -6
dogbutt, I noticed the analysis last night. I went over in my yellow, but ate no red yesterday. I would have been within my yellow except I ate some bagged salad mix last night with dinner. They counted that as yellow- not sure why, dressing, nuts, seeds, wonton strips. Anyway, that's how I figured out that I could have four oz of lean protein at all three meals and stay in the recommended area.
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Post by pobre on Jul 25, 2017 9:20:31 GMT -6
Ok, I can get in touch with them later today and ask them to make a separate group for us. Who all is there? I've identified Brux, HE, Dogbutt, Scout said she was using her SN. I don't know who pobre or Sundae are. And I thought we had a couple of other people who were at least in for the two week trial. Anyway, if you're reading this, and you want to be in our group, LMK and I'll put you on my list. My name is Lee over there. I haven't said anything yet. I'm slacking already.
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Post by pobre on Jul 25, 2017 9:23:15 GMT -6
Booze will always be my issue. I'm not a sweets person. But I really like my wine and beer. Same. I almost never eat sweets. But take away my wine and I will cut you.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 25, 2017 9:25:56 GMT -6
This is far nicer than what I have to say about them. I despise the "failure" mentality that they/their followers push. Oh, you ate 1 non-compliant thing? Fuck you, you suck at life, you can't be with us any more. Yeah, the vitriol that you get if you say "modified whole" is fun. LOL. Yeah. It's not just them though- any of the super restrictive (or some of the more permissive) food plans just get so far to one extreme or the other. On one end you have the whole 30 people that are super restrictive and on the other end you have the flexible dieters that eat everything.
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Post by angelashly on Jul 25, 2017 9:35:58 GMT -6
Today:
Breakfast: Banana, almond milk, and protein powder shake Morning Snack: strawberries and hard boiled egg Lunch: salad and some left over roast beef Afternoon snack: Hard boiled egg, apple and peanut butter Dinner: Either unstuffed cabbage bowls (skinnytaste) or lemon Dijon pork chops with roasted sweet potatoes and zucchini
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:39:15 GMT -6
I hear what you guys are saying about WW, but I have done it for 3 months and not touched any of the food you guys are talking about. The WW or the processed diet food. I didn't eat that way before so I wouldn't start now. My issue is quantity. So it helps me to know that a real slice of cheese is xx points so I need to cut it off at 1. It doesn't make me reach for a crap fat free piece of cheese. I also put my meals in the app as soon as I know them so I can plan the rest of my day (aka my sacrifices) around higher point meals like pizza or whatever. Part of my problem was in one day I would eat like 2-3 "cheat meals". Burrito for lunch, pizza for dinner kind of thing. Now I plan around my cheat meals and eat lighter before and after.
I'm online only so maybe I just don't get the push to the WW foods but I haven't felt pushed in that direction at all. It might be different if I was going to meetings and people were talking about them, etc.
The only thorn in my side I've had with WW points so far is avocado. I wish they were not so many points but I just deal and I was probably eating them a little too much, tbh.
Anyways, not being defensive, just sharing my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:40:08 GMT -6
Wine is 100% my problem. 😢
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:41:58 GMT -6
I love Whole30 but realistically have a hard time fitting it in my life. I'm hoping to do one in October after all my trips are done and to clear my palate before the holidays. I eat a lot of meals that whole 30 compliant and use the cookbook a lot, but doing whole days of it in a row takes a lot of prep and planning for me.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 9:42:15 GMT -6
I just got a message from Jackie. She said to continue logging food for he rest of the week so she can see where my problem area are and come up with a game plan. I think calories may actually change once we start the program.
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Post by pobre on Jul 25, 2017 9:46:39 GMT -6
The thing I'm not loving about the color coding in Noom is that is that it's really pretty much calorie based. Yes, there is some attention to nutrition but like...I am having avocado, bacon and tomato mashed up for lunch. Avocado is a yellow food, which sure, I get. But coffee - which is only good for you in moderation - is a green food. Because it's low in calories. So by their color system, have at it! Drink all you want! I'm with you. Did you read the article for the day? Mine was about their color system. It explains red doesn't equal bad. It explained it, but I'm still not totally satisfied with it.
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Post by pobre on Jul 25, 2017 9:46:58 GMT -6
I can't Whole 30 because I love beans. They are a staple in my diet.
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Post by fikafairy on Jul 25, 2017 11:47:56 GMT -6
I like the color coding of the food choices. One of my main main gripes with Weight Watchers is that it encourages the eating of a lot of super processed diet foods. Which are outrageously disgusting to me. both of these are EXACTLY why I like the 21 day fix method so far. It's color-coded containers, and it gives you a list of everything in each container, and calculates how many of each container to hit a calorie range. I bought a knockoff set on amazon for like $8, and it came with the meal planning kit which is essentially the same. I do have the original as well, mostly because one of my best friends is a beachbody coach and used her discount to get me the basic kit without the shakeology. My problem was always portion control and eating more of the right foods. It also encourages "clean food" eating rather than any processed stuff.
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Post by dogbutt on Jul 25, 2017 11:54:04 GMT -6
I lucked out for lunch. I had leftover Cajun chicken pasta from the skinnytaste website. I'm feeling satisfied so far with breakfast and lunch. Night time is my challenge and I guess it's good I recognize that.
We normally never have leftovers because we eat everything so my goal is to make sure there is leftover dinner for lunch the next day and that way I'm conscious to not over eat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 12:05:09 GMT -6
I lucked out for lunch. I had leftover Cajun chicken pasta from the skinnytaste website. I'm feeling satisfied so far with breakfast and lunch. Night time is my challenge and I guess it's good I recognize that. We normally never have leftovers because we eat everything so my goal is to make sure there is leftover dinner for lunch the next day and that way I'm conscious to not over eat. I am way more successful when I can pack leftovers from dinner for lunch the next day, so I try to do that as much as possible. When I can't, I make a turkey wrap. Whole wheat tortilla, turkey, lettuce, tomato and sometimes avocado.
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