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Post by dc2london on Mar 1, 2022 16:43:47 GMT -6
wildflower that's really interesting, thanks for sharing that. I think the troll farms and election interference allowed Putin to take on a Bond villain evil mastermind image for a lot of Americans.
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Post by cnf on Mar 1, 2022 16:46:58 GMT -6
Do not want to imagine the Omelet in a 7 years expired MRE. If they still make the Omelet one.Β When my dad was stationed in Bosnia- Herzegovina for 7 months he did a story (he was a journalist) on different countries MREs. He said by far the Russian MREs were the worst as it included 3 cans that were indiscernible as to contents. He said the worst part is they also sampled officer rations and those were REALLY NICE. So it was a huge differential between the average more and the officer mre. The kid filming cut one open and showed the contents. It looked like mostly condiments? Some small like 2-4oz cans and some tin packets like ketchup or mayonnaise come in. I mean, obviously there was likely more than that, but like 90% of the contents were just tiny packets and ramicans.
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Post by hawkward on Mar 1, 2022 16:49:11 GMT -6
wildflower Interesting! My uncle was also a Navy submariner (his speciality was Russian translation). He had similar things to say. I have very limited current knowledge of Russia but it jibes with what I learned in the early 2010s from our diplomatic overseas friends.
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Post by elle on Mar 1, 2022 17:29:20 GMT -6
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Post by wildflower on Mar 1, 2022 17:41:17 GMT -6
wildflower Interesting! My uncle was also a Navy submariner (his speciality was Russian translation). He had similar things to say. I have very limited current knowledge of Russia but it jibes with what I learned in the early 2010s from our diplomatic overseas friends. Well now I'm oddly curious if they crossed paths.
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Post by richard on Mar 1, 2022 17:59:24 GMT -6
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Post by wildflower on Mar 1, 2022 18:30:55 GMT -6
wildflower that's really interesting, thanks for sharing that. I think the troll farms and election interference allowed Putin to take on a Bond villain evil mastermind image for a lot of Americans. You are welcome. I think we (the very general we) forget that not everyone trains and operates like we do. When a mad man is running things and any voice of caution is viewed as treason, the results are hard for us to understand.
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Post by sterling on Mar 1, 2022 20:16:47 GMT -6
Regarding Russian troops running out of food and fuel and etc... I am embarrassingly ignorant about many current worldwide events and political movements. The one niche of recent history I DO feel competent in is the USA and Russian submarine programs during and after the Cold War (my uncle was a submarine officer in the 90s, hence the niche education). Anyway, absolute Russian incompetence and seeming lack of any planning or preparing was a massive theme and why they lost subs to nuclear meltdowns. People were scared for their lives to say "actually, that won't work" when told to do the physically impossible by the upper brass. So they tried to do it and then blamed someone else for the failures. It doesn't take a lot for me to assume that not much has changed or been learned in the last 30-40 years as far as Russian military culture and operations. So yes, I can absolutely believe convoys without fuel and soldiers with expired rations. I can believe this based on my recent binge watching of Chernobyl and my dadβs military history. But mostly Chernobyl.
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Post by CestLaVie on Mar 1, 2022 21:08:30 GMT -6
I also think Putin/government views all of the soldiers as pawns and tbh I don't think they really give a shit how many die/starve as long as they overall achieve what they want.
I've been thinking a lot about WWII stories of Russians faking their own deaths and purposely crashing their planes to give plausible deniability to their colleagues and protect their families but to also be able to leave. It makes it hard to believe that many soldiers will take countries up on their amnesty offers because 99% of those guys have family at home.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Mar 2, 2022 1:34:32 GMT -6
The German police just issued a warning today that there could be attacks in Germany - not by Russia but because there are lots of Ukrainians and Russians living here and fighting could break out. The first refugees that I know of arrived in our village yesterday. I cried because I saw a FB post asking for a highchair and clothes for the kids (the mom dropped everything and left with them without a single suitcase). I saw the post 3 hours after it went up and was all prepared to donate our highchair, but then I saw in the comments that 4 people had already volunteered and a used clothing store is donating bags of clothes to them π’ (moved tears)
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Post by starbuck on Mar 2, 2022 6:51:46 GMT -6
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Post by starbuck on Mar 2, 2022 8:18:29 GMT -6
CNN is showing a lot of images of homes and communities destroyed in Ukraine.
Airing an interview with a member of Ukraine's Volunteer Medical Battalion who is sharing that Russia/Ukraine had agreed to an escape corridor for civilians fleeing Volnovakha. They should have been safe. And as soon as the busses of civilians left the city, Russians attacked them.
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Post by Minerva on Mar 2, 2022 9:37:12 GMT -6
This right here sums up how Iβve been feeling about Putin this week.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Mar 2, 2022 9:45:22 GMT -6
Speaking of moved to tears, an interpreter for German television broke down during Zelensky's speech (the clip is only about 20 seconds and you don't need to understand German except to know that "Entschuldigung" means excuse me / sorry) π
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Post by willow on Mar 2, 2022 10:05:12 GMT -6
This right here sums up how Iβve been feeling about Putin this week. It is something beyond evil, honestly.
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Post by Minerva on Mar 2, 2022 10:17:39 GMT -6
Speaking of moved to tears, an interpreter for German television broke down during Zelensky's speech (the clip is only about 20 seconds and you don't need to understand German except to know that "Entschuldigung" means excuse me / sorry) π π
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Post by greykitty on Mar 2, 2022 10:23:14 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Mar 2, 2022 10:26:22 GMT -6
. Where the fuck were they vacationing? Switzerland this actually surprises me less. A lot of Portuguese emigrate there for work and it's not uncommon from r the to be called dark. Also Portuguese women working there are frequently called Maria.
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Post by richard on Mar 2, 2022 10:51:33 GMT -6
I think I saw US DOD estimates at 2,000.
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Post by mintyblueair on Mar 2, 2022 11:28:06 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Mar 2, 2022 12:08:24 GMT -6
If she is saying it, it's definitely been completely confirmed
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Post by mathlete on Mar 2, 2022 12:11:34 GMT -6
Amazing.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 2, 2022 12:27:21 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Mar 2, 2022 12:28:19 GMT -6
If she is saying it, it's definitely been completely confirmed Woof.
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Post by richard on Mar 2, 2022 12:29:43 GMT -6
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Post by Peekaru on Mar 2, 2022 12:40:34 GMT -6
Can't sell a seized asset!
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Post by dc2london on Mar 2, 2022 12:40:49 GMT -6
A reporter on CNN asked one of the EU commissioners about racism directed at people trying to flee Ukraine. First he denied it was happening then, when she pressed him, he gave a milquetoast "that's completely unacceptable" She said that since she questioned them they are taking steps to address these problems. Just. Wtf.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 2, 2022 12:43:22 GMT -6
Now they're interviewing a family who fled Afghanistan, and were waiting in Ukraine while they applied for asylum in the US, and they can't cross the border into Poland bc their FIVE DAY OLD NEWBORN doesnβt have documentation yet. Jesus.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 2, 2022 12:45:18 GMT -6
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