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Post by enchanted on Feb 28, 2022 17:37:55 GMT -6
@icedtea I'm sorry they had to deal with that, especially the kids.
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Post by enchanted on Feb 28, 2022 17:39:00 GMT -6
So what happens if Russia is using vacuum bombs and continues to break the Geneva convention rules? Charges brought at the Hague and a trial for war crimes should be the outcome. Don't know if that will happen, though.
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Post by elle on Feb 28, 2022 17:45:13 GMT -6
A Jewish friend of my mine was in Europe on vacation for the last week. She said lots of people they saw blamed Jewish people for the war, and her elementary-aged kids were screamed at (She said they're fine, and mostly just laughed at the adults swearing in front of them, but fuck.) That's awful. ๐
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Post by greykitty on Feb 28, 2022 17:45:50 GMT -6
I thought I saw a reference to Netflix somewhere - bouncing around a lot today. Anyway, there was an update on that, although minor compared to so many things. Although scary/ridiculous a network spokesperson has to stay anonymous for a 'programming update'. ... However, a Netflix spokesperson told The Verge that it does not plan to carry the channels. โGiven the current situation, we have no plans to add these channels to our service,โ said the spokesperson, who asked not to be named because of safety concerns. ... www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/netflix-says-it-will-not-stream-russian-propaganda-channels/ar-AAUqUwP?ocid=msedgntp
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Post by elle on Feb 28, 2022 17:45:54 GMT -6
Bitcoin and Coinbase are taking the same stance. Fuckers.
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Post by smilesp on Feb 28, 2022 17:46:21 GMT -6
@athn do you mind sharing the beading etsy link? That seems like a hobby I'd totally be down to buy all the supplies for and then never do. Lol Buying the stuff for a hobby I never quite master is basically my main hobby If you enjoy doing it then thatโs all that matters!
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Post by elle on Feb 28, 2022 18:11:44 GMT -6
So what happens if Russia is using vacuum bombs and continues to break the Geneva convention rules? Charges brought at the Hague and a trial for war crimes should be the outcome. Don't know if that will happen, though.
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Post by elle on Feb 28, 2022 18:12:22 GMT -6
I thought I saw a reference to Netflix somewhere - bouncing around a lot today. Anyway, there was an update on that, although minor compared to so many things. Although scary/ridiculous a network spokesperson has to stay anonymous for a 'programming update'. ... However, a Netflix spokesperson told The Verge that it does not plan to carry the channels. โGiven the current situation, we have no plans to add these channels to our service,โ said the spokesperson, who asked not to be named because of safety concerns. ... www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/netflix-says-it-will-not-stream-russian-propaganda-channels/ar-AAUqUwP?ocid=msedgntpGlad to see they won't agree to air the propaganda.
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Post by elle on Feb 28, 2022 18:41:29 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Feb 28, 2022 19:00:05 GMT -6
So what happens if Russia is using vacuum bombs and continues to break the Geneva convention rules? Charges brought at the Hague and a trial for war crimes should be the outcome. Don't know if that will happen, though. I don't know from what I've been reading, the Russians reportedly used them in Chechnya and Syria and yet here we are.
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Post by lucylou on Feb 28, 2022 19:11:48 GMT -6
40 miles long?? Late this afternoon they were saying 3 miles. Oh my gosh.๐ข
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Post by lucylou on Feb 28, 2022 19:13:03 GMT -6
Letโs say they find him guilty of war crimes..is there a set punishment for that or they would have to decide in real time?
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Post by elle on Feb 28, 2022 19:21:36 GMT -6
40 miles long?? Late this afternoon they were saying 3 miles. Oh my gosh.๐ข It's mostly a logistics convoy (fuel tankers, supplies, etc) but still rather terrifying.
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Post by enchanted on Feb 28, 2022 19:25:03 GMT -6
Charges brought at the Hague and a trial for war crimes should be the outcome. Don't know if that will happen, though. I don't know from what I've been reading, the Russians reportedly used them in Chechnya and Syria and yet here we are. That's part of why I said I didn't know. He's not the only world leader to have his military commit war crimes and not be charged.
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Post by enchanted on Feb 28, 2022 19:27:21 GMT -6
Letโs say they find him guilty of war crimes..is there a set punishment for that or they would have to decide in real time? A quick internet search tells me either a lengthy prison term or death are the two possible sentences.
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Post by clucky on Feb 28, 2022 19:32:37 GMT -6
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Post by notexactly on Feb 28, 2022 21:41:31 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Feb 28, 2022 21:44:48 GMT -6
I was watching a video of a captured Russian soldier calling his mom. He told her they were told they were going in as peacekeepers, but they are the aggressors.
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Post by athn64 on Feb 28, 2022 22:13:22 GMT -6
I was watching a video of a captured Russian soldier calling his mom. He told her they were told they were going in as peacekeepers, but they are the aggressors. That tracks with Putin's official stance on this as a "peacekeeping mission".
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 28, 2022 22:37:57 GMT -6
This feels very brave of Finland, given their own tense relationship with Russia's posturing.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Mar 1, 2022 0:32:28 GMT -6
So what happens if Russia is using vacuum bombs and continues to break the Geneva convention rules? Charges brought at the Hague and a trial for war crimes should be the outcome. Don't know if that will happen, though. Russia recognize the Haag's authority over its citizens to the same extent the US does. That is: 0. I didn't find the post, but yesterday a couple people mentioned some being gleeful about punishing the Russisn people and how it's hard to separate that. As an expat who has lived abroad during the W Bush and Trump areas and was in Syria when the US offensive on Fallujah started, I beg you to separate between the leadership of a country and its people, especially in a country without free and fair elections. There are no real opinion polls there, but I am willing to bet a vast majority of Russians have no interest in attacking Ukraine and are just trying to live their lives. It's impossible to impose sanctions without hurting the people at all, but we don't have to be gleeful about it. That it an unfortunate consequence that should be minimized to the extent possible.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Mar 1, 2022 0:35:38 GMT -6
Letโs say they find him guilty of war crimes..is there a set punishment for that or they would have to decide in real time? A quick internet search tells me either a lengthy prison term or death are the two possible sentences. Where did you read death? Capital punishment is banned in the EU and there's no way the Haag would pass that sentence.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Mar 1, 2022 0:43:56 GMT -6
Thermobaric weapons are horrific and banned. I also once listened to a clearly traumatized childhood acquaintance describe to me how he saw them work when he used them against Afghans in caves. They would have their interpreters call out a couple of times for the people to come out and then throw one in. He didn't tell me the name of what they were using, but he described the effects in vivid detail and I can put 2 and 2 together. So they are awful and using them is a war crime, but the US's hands are not clean on this one.
ETA: Sorry for the multiple posts in a row. I was catching up on the thread this morning.
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Post by bunnyfungo on Mar 1, 2022 0:55:04 GMT -6
There is a someone on my girlsโ cheer team from Ukraine. As in they immigrated here within the last 3-5 years and her mom is the only one allowed to record practices because itโs how she keeps the grandparents in the loop from so far away. I donโt want to make her mom uncomfortable, but I also consider her part of the mom group and want to make sure her family is okay. Is there even a delicate way to ask if her family needs anything?
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Post by blurnette989 on Mar 1, 2022 4:24:02 GMT -6
A Jewish friend of my mine was in Europe on vacation for the last week. She said lots of people they saw blamed Jewish people for the war, and her elementary-aged kids were screamed at (She said they're fine, and mostly just laughed at the adults swearing in front of them, but fuck.) . Where the fuck were they vacationing?
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Post by crimsonandclover on Mar 1, 2022 5:11:15 GMT -6
There is a someone on my girlsโ cheer team from Ukraine. As in they immigrated here within the last 3-5 years and her mom is the only one allowed to record practices because itโs how she keeps the grandparents in the loop from so far away. I donโt want to make her mom uncomfortable, but I also consider her part of the mom group and want to make sure her family is okay. Is there even a delicate way to ask if her family needs anything? I think it's just important to show you care. I think just asking directly is fine. I reached out to a Russian mom acquaintance today just to tell her I know it's not her and I hope her family is safe and not being hit too hard by the sanctions.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 1, 2022 5:39:39 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Mar 1, 2022 5:42:57 GMT -6
First rundown of the briefing to Congress I've seen:
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