July-Covid Politics

[jaygee]

lemondrop I’m sorry. I’ll be thinking of you and wishing you the best. Infertility sucks and if you need to talk you can PM me.

[Deleted]

I’m so sorry lemondrop. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

[teraiin]

I’m sorry lemondrop. Thank you so much for all of your insights and information. I am very sorry that this thread became a painful place. Wishing you all the best 😞❤️

[klw]

I am so sorry that you are leaving lemondrop. I appreciated your posts. I wish you all the best. ❤️

[Dr. Cox]

I’m so sorry for the pain you felt here, lemon drop. I appreciate your insight and I wish you the best. ❤️

[greykitty]

lemondrop, I hope you find strength and peace. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[summerbabe]

I'm miss your posts lemondrops and thanks for all your contributions to the board.

[jkjacq]

lemondrop I'm so sorry to see you go. You bring so much to this board. I understand the need to step back and I hope we'll see you again. Please know we're all sending you so much love and you can always reach out to any of us if you need. <3

[cakewench]

lemondrop - I am so incredibly sorry. You have been such an amazing contributor to this board and you will be very much missed, but I absolutely understand. If you need to talk, we are here. <3 Thank you for all of the information, support, and friendship.

[dc2london]

I am so sorry that we were not a safe space for you lemondrop and I understand why you are stepping back but please know that you will be truly missed. Slide into my DMs sometime 💗

[byjove]

lemondrop, I sent you a PM, but I'm not sure if it went through. Echoing everyone else, love to you <3

[crimsonandclover]

Jul 26, 2021 8:06:02 GMT -6 blurnette989 said:

Jul 26, 2021 7:24:33 GMT -6 crimsonandclover said:

We're still planning on traveling to the US in 3 weeks and I'm so stressed about it. Is it the right thing to do? Should I just go alone? How can I keep the DDs safe on the 23hr trips? How can we safely see relatives who will have to travel to see us? I've got a massive headache today from clenching my jaw over all this stress 😫

Hugs. I get this stress. We booked a flight for November and I'm just so uncertain about it and it's still months away. Is your US family generally vaxxed?

Nearly all the ones I want to see, yes, but I'm more worried about layovers and traveling, I think.

[geekygirly]

lemondrop I'm so sorry for everything that you are dealing with, and that we added to that. Your insight and knowledge was so appreciated and you will be greatly missed. I hope things improve for you in all avenues, and that maybe we will see you again one day.

[willow]

Oh my gosh, my heart sank to read how you are struggling, lemondrop. You are such a valued member here (outside of your vaccine knowledge of course, though that has also been so helpful for all of our collective psyches too) and on a personal level, I really have enjoyed posting with you and learning from you. I am so sorry that the board has caused you pain and I hope you find time and space to heal. I understand if this is a permanent break but I echo others that I hope some day you might come back if you feel up to it. <3

[addymac]

Oh lemondrop I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry this stopped being a safe space for you. Sending you love. You will be missed. If you decide to come back, I’ll be waiting to snuggle you in my bosom.

[Deleted]

Lemondrop thank you sharing your wealth of knowledge and helping us navigate these times. I know it’s been very beneficial for me. I am so sorry you are struggling and I hope the break (either temporary or permanent) allows you the space you need.

[greykitty]

CDC to announce updated mask guidance, per sources (excerpt) - the UK info is interesting, too, IMIO

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to recommend that people vaccinated for the coronavirus resume wearing masks indoors in certain areas of the country.



link

[jkjacq]

Anti Masker/Vaxer Clay Higgins (R-LA)and family have Covid.

[byjove]

Was it last week the WH had talks with the CDC about masks and they were like nah?

[byjove]

[enchanted]

Jul 27, 2021 9:39:22 GMT -6 byjove said:

Which is what I've said every time it's brought up that new mask mandates in areas with higher vaccination rates is going to be a hard sell. It's going to be an even harder where vaccination rates are low because those areas are also the ones where masks were barely used in the first place.

ETA: Well, my guess is vaccinated people will put masks back on in those areas if they haven't already, but unless the mandates have actual teeth and consequences for not complying, the unvaccinated "let's see those smiles" assholes are going to continue to not, just like they did all along.

And yes, I know masking does protect the wearer to the extent that it lessens the viral load, but we all know that's not enough to get this under control. Vaccinated people are not the problem.

[jkjacq]

Jul 27, 2021 9:39:22 GMT -6 byjove said:

because it worked so well in those parts before!

[Deleted]

I’m wonder if the CDC figures the states that were strict in masking before will just follow suit with the recommendations and won’t spell it out that way.

All I know is the Daily this morning didn’t make me feel great. It sounded like we are seeing a lot more breakthrough infections than expected.

[enchanted]

kbw I don't podcast so I don't know what was actually said, but I have wondered about that. I can see one of three possibilities:
1) More than expected thanks to Delta and other variants,
2) Media banging on and on about breakthrough cases for different reasons making it seem higher even though it's not, or
3) More than expected and the media banging on and on.

[sewf]

I am glad the CDC is backtracking in a way. I want DS to be able to go to school in person, so hopefully this will push the district to require masks. But I work in retail, is a state with barely 40% vaccination rate, where my coworkers and I are vaccinated and still wear our masks, but hardly any customers do. We got threatened and argued with during the first mandate, I am worried about what it's going to be like now.

[byjove]

Jul 27, 2021 9:42:35 GMT -6 enchanted said:

Jul 27, 2021 9:39:22 GMT -6 byjove said:

Which is what I've said every time it's brought up that new mask mandates in areas with higher vaccination rates is going to be a hard sell. It's going to be an even harder where vaccination rates are low because those areas are also the ones where masks were barely used in the first place.

ETA: Well, my guess is vaccinated people will put masks back on in those areas if they haven't already, but unless the mandates have actual teeth and consequences for not complying, the unvaccinated "let's see those smiles" assholes are going to continue to not, just like they did all along.

And yes, I know masking does protect the wearer to the extent that it lessens the viral load, but we all know that's not enough to get this under control. Vaccinated people are not the problem.

Even in my heavily blue, heavily vaccinated area, there are definitely going to be vaccinated people who will be like NOPE. Granted, I find these people generally don't have young kids, so it's been a different experience for them.

[byjove]

Jul 27, 2021 9:54:53 GMT -6 enchanted said:

kbw I don't podcast so I don't know what was actually said, but I have wondered about that. I can see one of three possibilities:
1) More than expected thanks to Delta and other variants,
2) Media banging on and on about breakthrough cases for different reasons making it seem higher even though it's not, or
3) More than expected and the media banging on and on.

From what I've gathered, it is definitely 1. Delta is a game changer. 

[piratecat]

Ugh, it's yet another case of the CDC botching up their messaging and walking it back after the damage has already been done.

[goldenbird]

Lemondrop ❤ biggest of hugs for you
I appreciate all the info and support you've provided throughout all this

[jaygee]

I think the entire messaging should be - this is the strongest variant we’ve seen yet, we need all mitigation strategies, wear a gosh darn mask you dum dums.

(And now you know why I don’t work in PR/marketing)