jaygee
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Post by jaygee on Apr 14, 2021 13:26:21 GMT -6
The DA's office had a follow up press conference. It is believed Paul raped and murdered Kristin. Also, they said he may have sexually assaulted others over the years. I think you could put money on it. I always have felt he didn't intend to kill her initially. I think it was rape that escalated. Same
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Apr 14, 2021 13:27:17 GMT -6
The DA's office had a follow up press conference. It is believed Paul raped and murdered Kristin. Also, they said he may have sexually assaulted others over the years. I think you could put money on it. I always have felt he didn't intend to kill her initially. I think it was rape that escalated. I think that makes sense, but it seems strange that the DA would say that. Without a body, there wouldn’t be any evidence of the assault/rape, so would that solely be based on them self incriminating/blabbing?
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Post by TheoV2 on Apr 14, 2021 13:39:46 GMT -6
I've been wondering if they've found clothing items or something she was transported in.
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Post by smilesp on Apr 14, 2021 13:43:58 GMT -6
Now I don’t remember...did Paul have the green truck with him at school? Or did Ruben drive it there?
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 14, 2021 13:47:44 GMT -6
I was wondering if he took photos or video. He'd be the hugest moron of all time to keep it at his house but again, it's happened.
For them to be able to definitively say that, they have to have something solid, like that or a recorded admission
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Post by catmom88 on Apr 14, 2021 13:49:22 GMT -6
I think there is a possibility that he has talked about it somewhere and it is on video/recording. Purely speculation though.
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 14, 2021 13:51:21 GMT -6
Now I don’t remember...did Paul have the green truck with him at school? Or did Ruben drive it there? I can't rememember... I think so though. There was also a golf cart that was stolen that night adn 2 golf cart covers that were never recovered. Paul worked on maintenance for the school previously and would've known how/where to steal one so thats one theory as to how her body got to the vehicle.
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 14, 2021 14:01:45 GMT -6
I think about this like once a week. What the fuck happened here?
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Post by smilesp on Apr 14, 2021 14:10:22 GMT -6
I think about this like once a week. What the fuck happened here? As a realtor, this really gives me the creeps.
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Post by sweptaway on Apr 14, 2021 14:11:58 GMT -6
I don’t believe I could murder someone, but I could definitely keep a secret forever. Already got a few in my brain I don’t ever plan on releasing, there’s room for a few more. I am the opposite. I have a few I will keep to myself that are harmless (well not illegal), but I would sing like a fucking canary if I murdered someone or knew someone who did. I know how I feel when I make a stupid mistake at work and it eats me up inside for a long while. I cannot imagine killing someone and hiding it for 25 years. But obviously I'm not a psychopath and the Flores' are.
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Post by shamycooler on Apr 14, 2021 14:39:06 GMT -6
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Apr 14, 2021 14:55:29 GMT -6
I have an overactive conscience. I would not last 25 years with a secret like that.
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Post by treeofheaven on Apr 14, 2021 15:04:23 GMT -6
I have an overactive conscience. I would not last 25 years with a secret like that. Same. And the anxiety of keeping a secret like that would kill me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 16:35:48 GMT -6
I just read this book about the serial killer, Israel Keyes, called American Predator and they briefly talked about how it's very plausible that he may have abducted and killed Lauren Spierer. The book was TERRIFYING.
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Post by ftwr on Apr 14, 2021 16:54:18 GMT -6
SLO Sherriff had another presser today. They said they believe they know where her body is but wasn't specific, obviously. They also said they have reason to believe there's other victims of sexual assualt since '05 (I'm guessing within the statute of limitations) and are asking people to come forward if they have any information and plan to use it in the prosecution. I'm wondering what additional info will come out but this slow burn is killing me.
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Post by mirabelle on Apr 14, 2021 16:59:59 GMT -6
I hope they nail these fuckers. Finally consuming the podcast. I’m thinking P&R benefited from the lack of technology at the time (smart phones, surveillance, etc) and I’m hoping that will be the exact thing that brings them down. Advances in technology...maybe dna, maybe cellphone or pc data. I’m on the edge of my seat to see what evidence they have.
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smilesp
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Post by smilesp on Apr 14, 2021 18:03:55 GMT -6
I’m very curious about what Ermelinda knew/knows.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 14, 2021 18:41:48 GMT -6
True crime garage has done this in a 2 part episode and more than one additional update over the years. I won't vouch for it being a good or bad podcast, but it's my personal favorite (over MFM, etc). Its the Delphi Murders, ep 110 and 111, most recent follow up is ep 395 and 468. Eta There is also a podcast called, "down the hill", which for those unfamiliar is what Libbey managed to capture the killer saying on snapchat. "Guys, down the hill". I saw in a show that part is all the police released. There was more audio that they chose not to release.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 14, 2021 18:42:41 GMT -6
I'm curious on what they have on Reuben.
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Post by brux on Apr 14, 2021 19:04:40 GMT -6
Also Ruben is 80. 80!
Can you imagine being 80 and still covering for your deadbeat worthless son? I don’t think I have that kind of loyal love in my DNA.
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Post by Yogurt on Apr 14, 2021 19:04:53 GMT -6
True crime garage has done this in a 2 part episode and more than one additional update over the years. I won't vouch for it being a good or bad podcast, but it's my personal favorite (over MFM, etc). Its the Delphi Murders, ep 110 and 111, most recent follow up is ep 395 and 468. Eta There is also a podcast called, "down the hill", which for those unfamiliar is what Libbey managed to capture the killer saying on snapchat. "Guys, down the hill". I saw in a show that part is all the police released. There was more audio that they chose not to release. what was the deal with that? They thought it wouldn't provide more information for the public to identify "bridge guy"? They wanted to withhold it and didn't think it would help?
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Post by Radley on Apr 14, 2021 19:07:45 GMT -6
I’m very curious about what Ermelinda knew/knows. I really think she knows most, if not all, of what happened. I think that’s why she left originally. She knows but didn’t want to be involved.
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Post by Radley on Apr 14, 2021 19:11:12 GMT -6
I saw in a show that part is all the police released. There was more audio that they chose not to release. what was the deal with that? They thought it wouldn't provide more information for the public to identify "bridge guy"? They wanted to withhold it and didn't think it would help? It’s been speculated that part of the crime they don’t want released to the public was recorded.
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smilesp
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Post by smilesp on Apr 14, 2021 19:12:45 GMT -6
I’m very curious about what Ermelinda knew/knows. I really think she knows most, if not all, of what happened. I think that’s why she left originally. She knows but didn’t want to be involved. Maybe I shouldn’t admit it but I kind of feel bad for her. Her brother kills someone and her parents help cover it up/bury the body in the freaking backyard. Knowing your entire family is complicit in a murder?? Yikes. What a position to be in.
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Post by mirabelle on Apr 14, 2021 19:19:42 GMT -6
Paul is a freaking creep and his dad is the master puppet. I can see him beating the mom in front of Paul as a child and maybe beating him too. Definitely learned to harass and abuse women from Reuben. Absolutely toxic home situation. There are men like Paul everywhere, reminds me of a Brock Turner. Absolute creepiest on all levels. Won’t take no for an answer. Waited for the exact opportunity to take what he wanted. When the coworker described that night she was stuck driving him home and being harassed by him and trapped in her car and his apartment, that was terrifying.
So Paul has a gf and he just never mentions to her that he was investigated for a missing persons case in college? That’s one of those disclosure things, but obviously P does not believe in consent or full disclosure. He is a predator.
ETA: reading the beginning of this thread I all of what I’ve said has been mentioned. So not presenting it, just venting. Bc as said a few times the Flores family is trash. Brock Turner is also trash-can’t say this enough times.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Apr 14, 2021 19:23:43 GMT -6
Also Ruben is 80. 80! Can you imagine being 80 and still covering for your deadbeat worthless son? I don’t think I have that kind of loyal love in my DNA. I feel like what ever happened after Kristin died was all Ruben. He's covering his own guilt too.
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Post by Cher on Apr 14, 2021 20:04:06 GMT -6
I just read this book about the serial killer, Israel Keyes, called American Predator and they briefly talked about how it's very plausible that he may have abducted and killed Lauren Spierer. The book was TERRIFYING. I know people who were involved with this and it’s assumed it was drugs and the guys she was with know what happened. I think that’s a case where they just need one of those people to talk.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 14, 2021 20:07:55 GMT -6
I saw in a show that part is all the police released. There was more audio that they chose not to release. what was the deal with that? They thought it wouldn't provide more information for the public to identify "bridge guy"? They wanted to withhold it and didn't think it would help? My thought was maybe sensitive in nature? I have no clue. All these years they still haven't said.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 14, 2021 20:25:36 GMT -6
Ok so should I make a new thread on these other true crime suggestions? True crime board? Lmk so we can discuss.
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Post by teraiin on Apr 14, 2021 20:38:21 GMT -6
My husband was really bothered by this one. He still googles it from time to time to see if anything got figured out
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