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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 15:44:34 GMT -6
Well I just found out I might fall under Phase 1C (the next phase after 65 and older) because of some contract work I do. That would be awesome. Of course we have to actually get through 1B first which we’ve established is a total cluster right now. 😫
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Post by Sundae on Jan 25, 2021 15:45:53 GMT -6
Well I just found out I might fall under Phase 1C (the next phase after 65 and older) because of some contract work I do. That would be awesome. Of course we have to actually get through 1B first which we’ve established is a total cluster right now. 😫 H and I are both 1C as well. I expect May maybe??
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Post by willow on Jan 25, 2021 15:48:14 GMT -6
Right? I keep seeing the stat that 30-60% of the LTC staff here are refusing it so I'm like hey hey I'll take one please thank you very much. Did you see the new guidance on vaccines today from the presser? No I had not seen that. I am interesting in that 5 day vaccination event at the Xcel for teachers and child care workers though. It says they'd be contacted through their employer but how does that work for nannies? I would love to be able to refer my nanny to get her vaccination this way if I could.
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Post by greykitty on Jan 25, 2021 15:48:53 GMT -6
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Post by sctiger on Jan 25, 2021 15:56:05 GMT -6
I know someone who got vaccinated because she was on a list of people to call if they have extra doses at the end of the day. She has a medical condition but isn't in the priority group so the office kept a list of people who could get there quickly at the end of the day. I'm totally okay with this if it means not wasting doses.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 25, 2021 16:03:11 GMT -6
I really think teachers, especially ones over a certain age, need to be prioritized. I just don't know if I can feel good about in person school until that happens. I am dying to send DD back to school, too. Right, and vaccinating school staff isn’t in the guidelines, but testing and contact tracing are. Which is better than nothing, but... I’d be feeling pretty undervalued if I worked at a school. 'locally, teachers are getting the shot finally. My mom just got hers and our district teachers are getting theirs today and tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 16:04:22 GMT -6
I know someone who got vaccinated because she was on a list of people to call if they have extra doses at the end of the day. She has a medical condition but isn't in the priority group so the office kept a list of people who could get there quickly at the end of the day. I'm totally okay with this if it means not wasting doses. Definitely. But it’s still like, you have to know someone or be in a proactive medical group, and able to get yourself there quickly. It’s not remotely equitable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 16:06:58 GMT -6
Right, and vaccinating school staff isn’t in the guidelines, but testing and contact tracing are. Which is better than nothing, but... I’d be feeling pretty undervalued if I worked at a school. 'locally, teachers are getting the shot finally. My mom just got hers and our district teachers are getting theirs today and tomorrow. That’s great! Supposedly education and child care workers are in Phase 1B here, but I haven’t heard anything about them actually getting vaccinated. It reads like they’re all lumped in with the 65+ general population. I would think they should be doing mass vaccinations at the schools before opening it up to the public, if getting kids back to school safely is really our priority.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 25, 2021 16:07:59 GMT -6
I know someone who got vaccinated because she was on a list of people to call if they have extra doses at the end of the day. She has a medical condition but isn't in the priority group so the office kept a list of people who could get there quickly at the end of the day. I'm totally okay with this if it means not wasting doses. Definitely. But it’s still like, you have to know someone or be in a proactive medical group, and able to get yourself there quickly. It’s not remotely equitable. For sure. We need a system to reach the more vulnerable communities and demographics who aren't established with a health system. I just don't know what the answer is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 16:08:52 GMT -6
I’ve been operating under the assumption- please correct me if I’m wrong - that vaccines hvent been 100% confirmed that they stop spread. Just minimize symptoms. Is this still true? They are not sure whether vaccinated people can still spread the virus, correct. Last I heard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 16:10:51 GMT -6
Definitely. But it’s still like, you have to know someone or be in a proactive medical group, and able to get yourself there quickly. It’s not remotely equitable. For sure. We need a system to reach the more vulnerable communities and demographics who aren't established with a health system. I just don't know what the answer is. Well we need more vaccine, is the main issue, I think. Ideally we’d have community vaccination centers all over the place that anyone in the current tier could access.
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Post by trueblue on Jan 25, 2021 16:14:56 GMT -6
I wish there was a list for people to sign up locally to be notified if there are doses available because of no shows or people turning it down. If I got a text or a call I'd be in the car in 2.5 seconds. Same.
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Post by miawallace on Jan 25, 2021 16:19:35 GMT -6
I’ve been operating under the assumption- please correct me if I’m wrong - that vaccines hvent been 100% confirmed that they stop spread. Just minimize symptoms. Is this still true? They are not sure whether vaccinated people can still spread the virus, correct. Last I heard. i just hope people keep masking and don’t assume they are all of a sudden immune. I’ve seen a few people post in sm that and I’m like, “you can still spread it to those who aren’t vaccinated” and they are mind blown. I mean I hate the mask. But some of the communication for the vaccine hasn’t been effective.
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Post by fancynewbeesly on Jan 25, 2021 16:21:45 GMT -6
cp3 That was similar to NJ. Teachers got bumped down to vaccinate smokers. It literally made my friends cry and rage. We want schools to be open. We want to teach everyone in person. But are so frustrated about the vaccine roll out.
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Post by mathlete on Jan 25, 2021 16:33:55 GMT -6
I wish there was a list for people to sign up locally to be notified if there are doses available because of no shows or people turning it down. If I got a text or a call I'd be in the car in 2.5 seconds. A Coworker of mine that is paralyzed/in a wheelchair, called the local hospital to get on a list for when they had no shows and he was able to get it last week. I was Soooo happy for him. The county I live in has been having vaccination clinics for teachers, but I teach in a different county that is still on 1A, so my name is on a list to eventually get it. I also recently had covid, so I'm not in a hurry anymore. Some local towns have been organizing and volunteering their own events. They work with the county health department to get the vaccine and get people in qualified categories to sign up to receive it and volunteer nurses/pharmacists to distribute and it's been going over really well!
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Post by cp3 on Jan 25, 2021 16:40:06 GMT -6
cp3 That was similar to NJ. Teachers got bumped down to vaccinate smokers. It literally made my friends cry and rage. We want schools to be open. We want to teach everyone in person. But are so frustrated about the vaccine roll out. Yes exactly this is how teachers feel. And it was very tone deaf that on the day they were supposed to receive their vaccines the governor posted about everyone working together so kids can get back in the classroom. Teachers desperately want to be in person but seem to not be a priority for the vaccine unfortunately. Eta: I'm sorry you guys are struggling with this too. I hope you are able to get yours soon.
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Post by cp3 on Jan 25, 2021 16:42:11 GMT -6
I know someone who got vaccinated because she was on a list of people to call if they have extra doses at the end of the day. She has a medical condition but isn't in the priority group so the office kept a list of people who could get there quickly at the end of the day. I'm totally okay with this if it means not wasting doses. Definitely. But it’s still like, you have to know someone or be in a proactive medical group, and able to get yourself there quickly. It’s not remotely equitable. This is what it seems like in my state too. Like if you know someone administering the vaccine you benefit because they are calling people they know to get vaccines that need to be used. Which I don't want vaccines to go to waste, but there should be a better system in place so they are truly going to who they should be right now.
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Post by addymac on Jan 25, 2021 16:46:50 GMT -6
Illinois just started 1B, which includes over 3 million people. I did sign up for notifications from my county, but then learned that my medical group will be sending invitations based on age/medical conditions/etc to established patients (sounds like those at highest risk first, which is fine with me). They're owned by my hospital, which maybe helps? I don't know. But I'm figuring I'll be lucky to go in February at best. Of course, once you get the invitation, no doubt poor My Chart will be deluged with people making appointments. They also setting up two sites for the vaccinations. So, I'm going to sit tight and wait for my invitation - I figure I'm fortunate enough to have an established medical relationship and so many don't. In a perfect world, I wish all the appointment systems could have been standardized and optimized. Even just in the area right around me, the pharmacies have different systems, the big medical groups are utilizing My Chart a little differently from each other, etc. It's hard to walk a computer-challenged neighbor/friend/relative through the system when mine may look totally different than theirs. People in my area are more than a little annoyed with the system here. PDQ - We are in Cook County, but have our own health department in our little place. So we aren't eligible to sign up for the Cook Co. vaccine website unless our work zip code is outside our village. We aren't getting much supply, so we're still on 1A, and it's moving slowly. We have two hospitals in town, so the majority of what we've gotten has gone there, appropriately, but most of those people don't live in our village. So there's a lot of people in 1A and 1B that live and work here who are having trouble getting appointments/aren't eligible elsewhere. Some have been getting appointments via MyChart with local-ish doctors groups, so there is some hope, but geez, man. Hybrid is starting Monday of next week, and there hasn't been a single district sponsored vaccine initiative. Which is another reason people are annoyed/angry. Skokie, Evanston, and others are vaccinating their teachers with special clinics. Yet, here we are with nothing for ours. I just hope we start getting more supply so we can amp things up here. Im so sorry. That’s so frustrating.
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Post by cp3 on Jan 25, 2021 16:47:42 GMT -6
'locally, teachers are getting the shot finally. My mom just got hers and our district teachers are getting theirs today and tomorrow. That’s great! Supposedly education and child care workers are in Phase 1B here, but I haven’t heard anything about them actually getting vaccinated. It reads like they’re all lumped in with the 65+ general population. I would think they should be doing mass vaccinations at the schools before opening it up to the public, if getting kids back to school safely is really our priority. Teachers are in 1B here but now they are emphasizing that right now they are only focusing on 75+ and 16+ with risk factors of 1B. Everyone else in 1B needs to wait. Which is just like why bother having them listed in 1B if they are being pushed out more.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 25, 2021 16:49:09 GMT -6
I’m frustrated by our state’s reopening guidelines for schools. Our school is reviewing the new guidelines and wants us to decide if we’ll send our kids back in mid-Feb. I looked at the guidelines last night and they still barely mention ventilation and are focused on “kids hardly get it and don’t get very sick”. The adults working at the school, fuck em. Basically. It’s totally kid focused. And whyyyy is ventilation still an afterthought?? Ugh. I really think teachers, especially ones over a certain age, need to be prioritized. I just don't know if I can feel good about in person school until that happens. I am dying to send DD back to school, too. It’s so strange to watch how people are being prioritized in different areas. Teachers, admins, and school staff are all being prioritized in separate clinics through the local hospital system in Ffx County. They are being cranked through in a matter of a few weeks and have guaranteed second doses. The hope is to reopen schools with a 6 week rollout as teachers finish receiving the vaccines. Our local governments in NOVA have very efficient vaccine delivery systems. but they don’t have enough vaccines for their capacity. They’re begging the Governor to allocate more up here. Which I’m sure won’t be popular in other parts of VA.
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Post by addymac on Jan 25, 2021 16:49:45 GMT -6
I’ve been operating under the assumption- please correct me if I’m wrong - that vaccines hvent been 100% confirmed that they stop spread. Just minimize symptoms. Is this still true? Correct.
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Post by addymac on Jan 25, 2021 16:50:44 GMT -6
Knowing that doses are being trashed hurts my heart so much. I know it’s out of your control but that’s just devastating to me.
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Post by AmyG on Jan 25, 2021 16:56:52 GMT -6
They are not sure whether vaccinated people can still spread the virus, correct. Last I heard. i just hope people keep masking and don’t assume they are all of a sudden immune. I’ve seen a few people post in sm that and I’m like, “you can still spread it to those who aren’t vaccinated” and they are mind blown. I mean I hate the mask. But some of the communication for the vaccine hasn’t been effective. we talked about this confusion a bit on the GD board the other day, not on the covid thread tho
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Post by thatgolfb on Jan 25, 2021 16:57:25 GMT -6
I’ve been operating under the assumption- please correct me if I’m wrong - that vaccines hvent been 100% confirmed that they stop spread. Just minimize symptoms. Is this still true? Yes. They just don't know yet about transmission. It isn't that it *doesn't* prevent transmission, just that they didn't focus on that during the trials. I think the 94-95% is prevention of *symptomatic* covid infection. Unfortunately, as far as I know, they didn't regularly test asymptomatic people during the trials (this is what I heard in some FB groups from people in at least one of the the trials, I don't know which). The wording is a bit confusing so I could be wrong about that.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 25, 2021 16:59:34 GMT -6
piratecat made me think of a question I've been wondering. Is there a set percentage of our population that needs to get this vaccine in order for things to start making a turn for the better? I was checking my state's system a few days ago and less than a quarter of our population registered for the vaccine. Which seems like not enough participation to see things return to any kind of normal. Yes. The ultimate goal is >80% throughout the community for local herd immunity, but that is expected to take a year or more to achieve throughout the US. We should start seeing noticeably reduced transmission when we hit 50-60% of the population vaccinated. And of course, the global population needs to be vaccinated or we will see rapid local transmission leading to more variants that can then spread within vaccinated populations. That will take (at least) several years - more if countries like the US don’t do our part to aid in funding and logistics of global vaccine distribution.
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Post by AmyG on Jan 25, 2021 17:00:13 GMT -6
I know someone who got vaccinated because she was on a list of people to call if they have extra doses at the end of the day. She has a medical condition but isn't in the priority group so the office kept a list of people who could get there quickly at the end of the day. I'm totally okay with this if it means not wasting doses. my mom's small town has one place that was vaccinating people[aside from the hospital staff], and they have a wait list you can fill out online. If they have extra doses at the end of the day, they'll call you and if you can get there in <15 minutes you'll get the vaccine My mom says she can't move that fast by the late afternoon, so at this time she doesn't want me to put her on that waitlist. Of course the place has no vaccines right now anyways. they are all out.
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Post by richard on Jan 25, 2021 17:01:46 GMT -6
Did you see the new guidance on vaccines today from the presser? No I had not seen that. I am interesting in that 5 day vaccination event at the Xcel for teachers and child care workers though. It says they'd be contacted through their employer but how does that work for nannies? I would love to be able to refer my nanny to get her vaccination this way if I could. I think they're likely starting with licensed childcare providers that care for multiple families. The state is reaching out to contact them about appointments. I'm still FB friends with a number of the DCP where my kids went for 6 years and a couple of them posted about getting it. Super happy for them.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jan 25, 2021 17:02:05 GMT -6
I really think teachers, especially ones over a certain age, need to be prioritized. I just don't know if I can feel good about in person school until that happens. I am dying to send DD back to school, too. It’s so strange to watch how people are being prioritized in different areas. Teachers, admins, and school staff are all being prioritized in separate clinics through the local hospital system in Ffx County. They are being cranked through in a matter of a few weeks and have guaranteed second doses. The hope is to reopen schools with a 6 week rollout as teachers finish receiving the vaccines. Our local governments in NOVA have very efficient vaccine delivery systems. but they don’t have enough vaccines for their capacity. They’re begging the Governor to allocate more up here. Which I’m sure won’t be popular in other parts of VA. Do you have schools open there? I don't know of any teachers here in CA that have been eligible for it. At our local vaccination super station, it is still health care workers, and now they opened it up to 65+. I haven't heard about any teachers getting. But maybe because we have been virtual for almost a year? Maybe the teachers already forced to do in person teaching are being prioritized first?
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Post by Minerva on Jan 25, 2021 17:05:31 GMT -6
I’ve been operating under the assumption- please correct me if I’m wrong - that vaccines hvent been 100% confirmed that they stop spread. Just minimize symptoms. Is this still true? Yes. They just don't know yet about transmission. It isn't that it *doesn't* prevent transmission, just that they didn't focus on that during the trials. I think the 94-95% is prevention of *symptomatic* covid infection. Unfortunately, as far as I know, they didn't regularly test asymptomatic people during the trials (this is what I heard in some FB groups from people in at least one of the the trials, I don't know which). The wording is a bit confusing so I could be wrong about that. I read that they did do weekly asymptomatic testing on a subgroup in the Moderna trials and saw reduced transmission. But it wasn’t a large enough group to say with certainty how much it reduces/prevents transmission.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 25, 2021 17:11:05 GMT -6
It’s so strange to watch how people are being prioritized in different areas. Teachers, admins, and school staff are all being prioritized in separate clinics through the local hospital system in Ffx County. They are being cranked through in a matter of a few weeks and have guaranteed second doses. The hope is to reopen schools with a 6 week rollout as teachers finish receiving the vaccines. Our local governments in NOVA have very efficient vaccine delivery systems. but they don’t have enough vaccines for their capacity. They’re begging the Governor to allocate more up here. Which I’m sure won’t be popular in other parts of VA. Do you have schools open there? I don't know of any teachers here in CA that have been eligible for it. At our local vaccination super station, it is still health care workers, and now they opened it up to 65+. I haven't heard about any teachers getting. But maybe because we have been virtual for almost a year? Maybe the teachers already forced to do in person teaching are being prioritized first? No. Our county’s schools have been virtual except for about 3% of the student population who have educational needs that make virtual schooling impossible. The district has had several failed return-to-school attempts (cancelled the day before students were to return) because they weren’t able to staff the schools. I’m guessing that is why they are going all in on teacher vaccinations now. ETA: They are also being investigated by the feds for failing to provide FAPE for students with IEPs who are in Gen Ed during virtual schooling. They know there is likely a civil suit coming as well, which may also be motivating them. 😬
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