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Post by elle on Aug 4, 2020 19:31:47 GMT -6
That's just absurd cp3. Simply absurd. I'm sorry.
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Post by cp3 on Aug 4, 2020 19:36:43 GMT -6
Ours was that ridiculous too, cp3. We aren’t sending our K’er even for virtual. Fuck that noise. We will homeschool and cross our fingers for 2021. (I am sending our 7th and 9th grader virtually) We start school this coming Tuesday and I wish they had released this information earlier. Dd1 has weekly PT, OT, and therapy and the toddler has bi-weekly PT, OT, Speech, and developmental therapy that I just don't know how I will manage with that schedule. I just don't know what to do.
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Post by gymngemini on Aug 4, 2020 19:38:52 GMT -6
easier and athn64 I completely agree. I just do not see how it is realistic at all. Breakdown under spoiler.
9am-9:45am related arts (Google meet or recorded video) 9:45am-10am class meeting (Google meet) 10am-11am foundational skills (Google meet) 11am-12pm lunch/teacher prep 12pm-1pm ReadyGen lesson/small group work 1pm-1:30pm Ready to learn (Google meet) 1:30pm-2:45pm Math 2:45pm-3:30pm Science
That does seem like a lot, but also not significantly different than our school's K - 4 schedule. Is that just for K or is that elementary wide? I'm wondering if adjustments will be made for the younger ones? I also have a K and toddler to wrangle (also 5th, but she's fortunately pretty independent). I'm going to see if I can pull up our elementary schedule to compare.
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Post by cp3 on Aug 4, 2020 19:41:44 GMT -6
easier and athn64 I completely agree. I just do not see how it is realistic at all. Breakdown under spoiler.
9am-9:45am related arts (Google meet or recorded video) 9:45am-10am class meeting (Google meet) 10am-11am foundational skills (Google meet) 11am-12pm lunch/teacher prep 12pm-1pm ReadyGen lesson/small group work 1pm-1:30pm Ready to learn (Google meet) 1:30pm-2:45pm Math 2:45pm-3:30pm Science
That does seem like a lot, but also not significantly different than our school's K - 4 schedule. Is that just for K or is that elementary wide? I'm wondering if adjustments will be made for the younger ones? I also have a K and toddler to wrangle (also 5th, but she's fortunately pretty independent). I'm going to see if I can pull up our elementary schedule to compare. This is just for Kindergarten. It's just drastically different from what we did in the spring for her pre-k which is through the same district. I'll also have a 3rd and 6th grader every other week. The 3rd grader's schedule is similar to K.
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Post by byjove on Aug 4, 2020 19:46:02 GMT -6
cp3 hopefully they are planning to build breaks into each of those big chunks? It’s not super different from what schools are planning to do in our area and it’s going to so hard 🥴
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Post by cp3 on Aug 4, 2020 19:47:45 GMT -6
cp3 hopefully they are planning to build breaks into each of those big chunks? It’s not super different from what schools are planning to do in our area and it’s going to so hard 🥴 Yeah I really feel for working parents especially of the younger grades. It seems impossible to manage.
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Post by gymngemini on Aug 4, 2020 19:47:59 GMT -6
That does seem like a lot, but also not significantly different than our school's K - 4 schedule. Is that just for K or is that elementary wide? I'm wondering if adjustments will be made for the younger ones? I also have a K and toddler to wrangle (also 5th, but she's fortunately pretty independent). I'm going to see if I can pull up our elementary schedule to compare. This is just for Kindergarten. It's just drastically different from what we did in the spring for her pre-k which is through the same district. I'll also have a 3rd and 6th grader every other week. The 3rd grader's schedule is similar to K. Wow that is very specific for the grade level. And for starting so soon. Yeah we had very little for Pre-K. There was more for my then 4th grader but not as much as it is for either this upcoming fall. A vocal part of our district was appalled at the lack of live teaching in the spring, so I do think some of our schedule is a reflection of that. Eta: Our schedule is 8:15-2 pm, Full class meeting 8:15-8:45 and 11:00-11:30 8:45-11:00 is broken up into 15-30 minute increments that will contain small group lessons, full class lessons, independent work, movement/snack time 11:30-12:00 is independent work/individual student meetings/assistance 12-1 lunch/recess 1-1:45 special 1:45-2:00 independent work (this seems odd but okay?) 2-2:30 IB stuff/after-school clubs/additional individual support time.
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Post by cp3 on Aug 4, 2020 19:52:04 GMT -6
gymngemini I told MH the same thing. It seems they are trying to make up for the spring but are going completely overboard and it's going to be really hard for parents.
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Post by gymngemini on Aug 4, 2020 20:06:29 GMT -6
gymngemini I told MH the same thing. It seems they are trying to make up for the spring but are going completely overboard and it's going to be really hard for parents. It's going to be so hard. I think it's also this really weird thing of trying to figure out how to meet the needs of so many conflicting needs. I'm hoping everyone will live under the mantra of being flexible and giving grace. Because yikes for all of this.
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Post by oreobitsy on Aug 4, 2020 20:26:42 GMT -6
They can't be serious with expecting a Kindergarten age kid to sit on Google meets that long. Daily.
I'm sure there will be some changes as parents voice their opinions. That's too much.
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Post by cp3 on Aug 4, 2020 21:30:37 GMT -6
They can't be serious with expecting a Kindergarten age kid to sit on Google meets that long. Daily. I'm sure there will be some changes as parents voice their opinions. That's too much. This is what I'm hoping for. I just had a freak out moment when I saw the schedule but MH helped calm me down. I'm just a planner and need to know things so not knowing much about how things will work when school starts a week from today has me super stressed.
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Post by Rebel on Aug 4, 2020 21:35:56 GMT -6
Is anyone here unenrolling their kids?
I have a handful of people I know who are doing so. Especially after seeing the released sample virtual learning schedule.
I have some serious concerns about this, in regards to funding.
If I unenroll my kids, my schools lose funding. This hurts them long term, both for when MY kids return to school and for the kids who are still there (for example, the kids whose parents can’t afford to pull/unenroll them and do a different curriculum).
If I go by what’s best for my daughter, unenrolling and doing a homeschool curriculum like Abeka is probably ideal. But I’m having extreme guilt about the long term effects for the schools and our community.
Anyone else struggling with this? Thoughts?
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Post by Rebel on Aug 4, 2020 21:38:11 GMT -6
Oh and cp3, our schedules look similar. My 3rd grader will be in front of a computer from 8-3, every single day. I cannot imagine. Little kids should not learn like this.
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 4, 2020 21:48:55 GMT -6
After a five hour meeting our district delayed opening until 9/8. Next meeting on 8/25 to have the next final final plan
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Post by gymngemini on Aug 4, 2020 22:50:19 GMT -6
Is anyone here unenrolling their kids? I have a handful of people I know who are doing so. Especially after seeing the released sample virtual learning schedule. I have some serious concerns about this, in regards to funding. If I unenroll my kids, my schools lose funding. This hurts them long term, both for when MY kids return to school and for the kids who are still there (for example, the kids whose parents can’t afford to pull/unenroll them and do a different curriculum). If I go by what’s best for my daughter, unenrolling and doing a homeschool curriculum like Abeka is probably ideal. But I’m having extreme guilt about the long term effects for the schools and our community. Anyone else struggling with this? Thoughts? Can you see how it goes for a bit before pulling her? My H and I have talked about how we will pull our kindergarten if it's a disaster and try again next year, but we want to see how it goes. She's already on the young side, so I'm approaching with no expectations but the structure and minimal social aspects will be good for her to start out. After that, we release all guilt. It's a global event and we have to protect our own families the best ways we can. On the flip side, my 5th grader will do the online schooling because for her in the grand scheme of things, I'm not worried about one weird year. I'm more concerned about our family functionality if I have to home school her (But my god please don't let this be more than a year) I also hold out hope that we will get new leadership and a new secretary of ed who recognizes that this year is abnormal and helps to assist schools with the lack of funding from disenrollmemt and tax revenues.
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Post by Minerva on Aug 4, 2020 22:58:30 GMT -6
They can't be serious with expecting a Kindergarten age kid to sit on Google meets that long. Daily. I'm sure there will be some changes as parents voice their opinions. That's too much. This is what I'm hoping for. I just had a freak out moment when I saw the schedule but MH helped calm me down. I'm just a planner and need to know things so not knowing much about how things will work when school starts a week from today has me super stressed. Our sample schedule for elementary looks very similar. It runs from 9am to 3:30pm. They’ve suggested it may be further modified to be ~3 hours for the younger grades. DS will need help for all of it. One of us will need to sit by him if we want him to get anything out of it. Normally he’d have an instructional assistant to help him stay on task, as per his IEP. I haven’t heard any good explanations about how they will accommodate that fairly common need in a virtual environment. If virtual school really does run all day, Idon’t know how I’m going to help him without neglecting DD, who has her own IEP and services. I was hoping to get her started in private ST and OT this fall to augment her virtual developmental services, but I don’t know when we will fit it in. We’ll see how it goes, I guess. I told H that we’d give it a month and if it is totally untenable, we will unenroll and homeschool. Right now it seems very overwhelming.
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Post by orangebird2020 on Aug 5, 2020 1:47:11 GMT -6
cp3 I haven't seen any schedules yet for my district, thank you for sharing yours. Teachers are officially back tomorrow and there is a school board meeting tomorrow night. I will have a kid in kinder while I WFH FT. I hope ours is not so much of Google Meets daily. It will all be people we have never met but maybe I need to get more comfortable with the new normal. I am going to talk to my bosses about a work adjustment. I feel like I am already constantly multitasking and not sure I want to keep it up for who knows how much longer.
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Post by goldenbird on Aug 5, 2020 3:08:00 GMT -6
easier and athn64 I completely agree. I just do not see how it is realistic at all. Breakdown under spoiler.
9am-9:45am related arts (Google meet or recorded video) 9:45am-10am class meeting (Google meet) 10am-11am foundational skills (Google meet) 11am-12pm lunch/teacher prep 12pm-1pm ReadyGen lesson/small group work 1pm-1:30pm Ready to learn (Google meet) 1:30pm-2:45pm Math 2:45pm-3:30pm Science
That's way too long. I would be so pissed and upset. Also, math and science are way too long and at the end of the day? No way that's going to go well for any grade level.
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Post by byjove on Aug 5, 2020 5:28:12 GMT -6
This is what I'm hoping for. I just had a freak out moment when I saw the schedule but MH helped calm me down. I'm just a planner and need to know things so not knowing much about how things will work when school starts a week from today has me super stressed. Our sample schedule for elementary looks very similar. It runs from 9am to 3:30pm. They’ve suggested it may be further modified to be ~3 hours for the younger grades. DS will need help for all of it. One of us will need to sit by him if we want him to get anything out of it. Normally he’d have an instructional assistant to help him stay on task, as per his IEP. I haven’t heard any good explanations about how they will accommodate that fairly common need in a virtual environment. If virtual school really does run all day, Idon’t know how I’m going to help him without neglecting DD, who has her own IEP and services. I was hoping to get her started in private ST and OT this fall to augment her virtual developmental services, but I don’t know when we will fit it in. We’ll see how it goes, I guess. I told H that we’d give it a month and if it is totally untenable, we will unenroll and homeschool. Right now it seems very overwhelming. Yes, I will have to sit next to DD1 to keep her on task and see if she is retaining anything... and also do my job and my own meetings (DH will help out with this too, but he is out of the house more and also working... and inevitably I am set up at the dining room table where DD1 also will be...) We expected it was going to be like this and so that was a huge reason we decided to send DD2 back to preschool and have her out of the house. Really interested to see what our schedule looks like on Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 5:43:58 GMT -6
I’m sorry cp3 that’s completely unreasonable for a 5yo. I also have a rising K - we haven’t gotten schedules yet. I’ve been keeping calm by not thinking about it too much, but we are almost a month out now and I just....don’t know.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 5, 2020 6:08:21 GMT -6
My county sent parents sample schedules for elementary, middle and senior high this week which was nice. It really does look a lot like a regular classroom schedule. While it may look to some parents as if there are more breaks, I think they just don't realize that teachers give the kids "breaks" from direct instruction (silent reading time, doing a brain break song/dance, rereading a familiar text aloud, etc)
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Post by dc2london on Aug 5, 2020 6:14:43 GMT -6
Johns Hopkins study of death rate per population, blames NY/NJ, if you take those numbers out we’re great! Wow I totally missed when NY and NJ seceded. Did we sell them to Canada?
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Post by dc2london on Aug 5, 2020 6:21:43 GMT -6
Rebel and gymngemini my older kids are at least trying out the virtual learning provided through the county. My main concern, too, was funding. But I also at least want to give them a chance bc I know the teachers have really worked together over the summer to try to create a high quality learning experience for these kids. DD will get a homeschool preschool through me, with the help of Khan Academy Kids and possibly ABC Mouse. She's a late July baby and is quite small for her age, so I may decide to send her to a five day preschool next year and start her in kindergarten the following year if I don't feel she's ready for kindergarten next fall.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 5, 2020 6:35:32 GMT -6
Here's where the talks stand as of this morning
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Post by richard on Aug 5, 2020 7:03:33 GMT -6
I’m hoping for a little more structure for distance learning than what we had in the spring but that schedule is waaay intense for a kindergartner.
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Post by richard on Aug 5, 2020 7:08:58 GMT -6
To me, pulling my kids feels like more work than distancing learning through the school. I’d rather make what the school is doing work for us even if it means a year of “bad grades” than start from scratch trying to teach them on my own while working.
My kids will be present and do work each day but the school is going to get what they get from us. If DH and I both have meetings and the kindergartener won’t sit in a Zoom meeting on his own, then he won’t be in the Zoom meeting that day. Sorry not sorry.
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Post by cribs on Aug 5, 2020 7:35:03 GMT -6
Johns Hopkins study of death rate per population, blames NY/NJ, if you take those numbers out we’re great! Wow I totally missed when NY and NJ seceded. Did we sell them to Canada? I would gladly have NY sold to Canada! I could sail across Lake Ontario
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Post by cakewench on Aug 5, 2020 7:40:34 GMT -6
My H is off and he's taking N for a trail walk before it gets too hot.
This is the first time I've been alone in the house on a weekday since March 13.
I may legit cry. But I don't want to disturb the silence.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 5, 2020 7:49:01 GMT -6
They can't be serious with expecting a Kindergarten age kid to sit on Google meets that long. Daily. I'm sure there will be some changes as parents voice their opinions. That's too much. I can only speak for myself, but my first grader had several hours a day of Google meet in the spring and it wasn't all sitting still. They would dance to a math song on YouTube, do a scavenger hunt in the house, break out into small groups and chat, etc. It was a little annoying bc I felt obligated to sit with him during instruction and felt dancing the 5's wasted "my" time but I assume they were required a certain amount of hands-on time
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Post by oreobitsy on Aug 5, 2020 8:05:39 GMT -6
dc2london That sounds better than what I envisioned. The sedentary part of the Google meets is what concerns me. It's hard to sit still and focused for long periods of time.
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