Manic Monday

[tgrimes]

Apr 7, 2020 5:39:52 GMT -6 wineallthetime said:

I'm hoping I won't need masks for the kids because I don't plan to take them anywhere. If we happen to need to take them to the Dr, they should have a mask to give them. I can't imagine taking them anywhere else!

I was reading that the germs can collect on the outside of the mask (makes sense) so I'm going to be extra careful with touching the mask and such. Especially as I take it off in my office to eat at work.

In the CV thread they were talking about this last month.  It's great to wear a mask, but makes it completely useless if you don't take it off or put it on correctly.  

On a side note, the little girl I told you about in the PICU at your hospital has to wear a mask.  She showed us a pic and it's sooooooo tiny. 

[lfig]

Apr 7, 2020 7:26:52 GMT -6 tgrimes said:

Apr 6, 2020 18:35:57 GMT -6 lahdeedah said:

Somehow- taking away the toys and iPad has been a nonissue. Go figure. M has been better this past week- he still has his moments, but I know it’s going to take more than a week to sort everything out.

As long as they aren’t asking for them, I won’t offer it.

Also M2 is pretty much weaned off the pacifier. He did it for himself after he bit through both of them, and the first day was a lot of crying and whining, but he has been ok ever since. I was dreading it, but it hasn’t been too bad.

I need to get H off the pacifier.  He only uses it to sleep but...augh.  

S was like this. And I dreaded breaking her from it. But it actually wasn’t too bad. And once she was off it she actually slept better! Less waking up! Just to give you a little glimmer of hope. Lol.

[nam2013]

Apr 7, 2020 7:26:52 GMT -6 tgrimes said:

Apr 6, 2020 18:35:57 GMT -6 lahdeedah said:

Somehow- taking away the toys and iPad has been a nonissue. Go figure. M has been better this past week- he still has his moments, but I know it’s going to take more than a week to sort everything out.

As long as they aren’t asking for them, I won’t offer it.

Also M2 is pretty much weaned off the pacifier. He did it for himself after he bit through both of them, and the first day was a lot of crying and whining, but he has been ok ever since. I was dreading it, but it hasn’t been too bad.

I need to get H off the pacifier.  He only uses it to sleep but...augh.  

I was sooooo scared with both kids... We made a letter to the paci troll (Norwegian folklore) let search for all the paci’s in the house, made them spit them out one by one in the envelope and then mailed them to Norway. Next day they got a letter and a present from the paci troll back. With ds it was a breeze, dd was really sad, but it was done after to nights, plus no more wining about a paci when she’s tired is a win in my book!

[tgrimes]

Apr 7, 2020 7:43:12 GMT -6 lfig said:

Apr 7, 2020 7:26:52 GMT -6 tgrimes said:

I need to get H off the pacifier.  He only uses it to sleep but...augh.  

S was like this. And I dreaded breaking her from it. But it actually wasn’t too bad. And once she was off it she actually slept better! Less waking up! Just to give you a little glimmer of hope. Lol.

I just feel terrible to do it to him since he's always sick.  With M,  MH took her to the dentist and he said she needed to get rid of it.  So that night he threw them all out.  Not delightful with a newborn but whatever.  

We read pacifiers are not forever and he says he's going to give all his pacis to baby A (my niece) and baby P (our friend's daughter).  Lol.

[nam2013]

tgrimes maybe now isn’t the right time too, so much is going on. No need to pressure yourself, I mean what’s a extra 1-3 months! With both kids we made sure the timing was convenient for US, so not during a family vacation, holiday season etc.

[wedding]

They have grades in kindergarten chrisy01😧! I’m sorry. I hope C did what he said he would. I also messed up on the Seesaw thing at first.

[chrisy01]

Apr 7, 2020 8:19:25 GMT -6 wedding said:

They have grades in kindergarten chrisy01😧! I’m sorry. I hope C did what he said he would. I also messed up on the Seesaw thing at first.

Yes and L is obsessed with getting student excellence award each quarter. He likes getting it and if these assignments aren’t turned in he won’t get it. I told him it’s no big deal but to be honest I’m glad he cares about his grades.

[wedding]

I got masks for us. DH is still going to work in Boston and was getting one anyway from work. I got C one just in case we need to take him somewhere. And I got one for groceries.

[guster]

Apr 7, 2020 8:21:05 GMT -6 chrisy01 said:

Apr 7, 2020 8:19:25 GMT -6 wedding said:

They have grades in kindergarten chrisy01😧! I’m sorry. I hope C did what he said he would. I also messed up on the Seesaw thing at first.

Yes and L is obsessed with getting student excellence award each quarter. He likes getting it and if these assignments aren’t turned in he won’t get it. I told him it’s no big deal but to be honest I’m glad he cares about his grades.

I was surprised by this as well. We have only received two report cards (Josie is oblivious to them), and they are just letters (e for excelling, m for meeting, etc the standards and the social emotional stuff c for consistently,s for sometimes, etc)
Either way, I am glad the teacher is accepting them late, especially during this situation. Flexibility is super important right now.

[chrisy01]

Apr 7, 2020 9:06:16 GMT -6 guster said:

Apr 7, 2020 8:21:05 GMT -6 chrisy01 said:

Yes and L is obsessed with getting student excellence award each quarter. He likes getting it and if these assignments aren’t turned in he won’t get it. I told him it’s no big deal but to be honest I’m glad he cares about his grades.

I was surprised by this as well. We have only received two report cards (Josie is oblivious to them), and they are just letters (e for excelling, m for meeting, etc the standards and the social emotional stuff c for consistently,s for sometimes, etc)
Either way, I am glad the teacher is accepting them late, especially during this situation. Flexibility is super important right now.

Our grades are more traditional, A/B/C for part of it and then the other half is E - excels. S - Satisfactory, N - needs improvement but this is for behavioral and religion

[cagoldi]

Apr 7, 2020 9:06:16 GMT -6 guster said:

Apr 7, 2020 8:21:05 GMT -6 chrisy01 said:

Yes and L is obsessed with getting student excellence award each quarter. He likes getting it and if these assignments aren’t turned in he won’t get it. I told him it’s no big deal but to be honest I’m glad he cares about his grades.

I was surprised by this as well. We have only received two report cards (Josie is oblivious to them), and they are just letters (e for excelling, m for meeting, etc the standards and the social emotional stuff c for consistently,s for sometimes, etc)
Either way, I am glad the teacher is accepting them late, especially during this situation. Flexibility is super important right now.

This is how our grading is done, too.

[inthekitty]

Here kids don't get traditional letter grades until middle school. They're on a system that basically indicates meeting, below, or above standards. I prefer it that way for elementary.

[trtlcrzy]

Apr 7, 2020 5:39:52 GMT -6 wineallthetime said:

I'm hoping I won't need masks for the kids because I don't plan to take them anywhere. If we happen to need to take them to the Dr, they should have a mask to give them. I can't imagine taking them anywhere else!

I was reading that the germs can collect on the outside of the mask (makes sense) so I'm going to be extra careful with touching the mask and such. Especially as I take it off in my office to eat at work.

My work recommends folding the mask in half, outside to outside and putting it in a bag.

[trtlcrzy]

Apr 7, 2020 8:19:25 GMT -6 wedding said:

They have grades in kindergarten chrisy01😧! I’m sorry. I hope C did what he said he would. I also messed up on the Seesaw thing at first.

H gets grades too. 1-4, 4 bring the best and 1 the worst. She’s not gotten less than a 3.

[inthekitty]

I think it's more than extra, even when not during a pandemic with homeschooling, to closely track assignments in K (or even up to say, 3rd grade) because so much of what is completed for homework is dependent on parents being involved and taking the initiative. There are always exceptions, but most 6-8 yos aren't responsible enough to keep track of their own work outside of school and ensure they turn everything in on their own. It punishes kids who come from unstable homes or whose parents have too much going on to focus on that.

[nam2013]

inthekitty couldn’t agree more. It is ludicrous.

[trtlcrzy]

Apr 7, 2020 11:29:20 GMT -6 inthekitty said:

I think it's more than extra, even when not during a pandemic with homeschooling, to closely track assignments in K (or even up to say, 3rd grade) because so much of what is completed for homework is dependent on parents being involved and taking the initiative. There are always exceptions, but most 6-8 yos aren't responsible enough to keep track of their own work outside of school and ensure they turn everything in on their own. It punishes kids who come from unstable homes or whose parents have too much going on to focus on that.

H has 3 assignments due a week and they are all due Sunday at 8. They’re pretty easy, like her reading assignment she did this morning was to listen to a book, tell me what it was about and draw a picture of what she thinks happened after the book. Then I took a pic and sent it to her teacher. They have to have some way to document what they’re doing/learning.

[trtlcrzy]

Apr 7, 2020 11:29:20 GMT -6 inthekitty said:

I think it's more than extra, even when not during a pandemic with homeschooling, to closely track assignments in K (or even up to say, 3rd grade) because so much of what is completed for homework is dependent on parents being involved and taking the initiative. There are always exceptions, but most 6-8 yos aren't responsible enough to keep track of their own work outside of school and ensure they turn everything in on their own. It punishes kids who come from unstable homes or whose parents have too much going on to focus on that.

H has 3 assignments due a week and they are all due Sunday at 8. They’re pretty easy, like her reading assignment she did this morning was to listen to a book, tell me what it was about and draw a picture of what she thinks happened after the book. Then I took a pic and sent it to her teacher. They have to have some way to document what they’re doing/learning.

[trtlcrzy]

Apr 7, 2020 11:29:20 GMT -6 inthekitty said:

I think it's more than extra, even when not during a pandemic with homeschooling, to closely track assignments in K (or even up to say, 3rd grade) because so much of what is completed for homework is dependent on parents being involved and taking the initiative. There are always exceptions, but most 6-8 yos aren't responsible enough to keep track of their own work outside of school and ensure they turn everything in on their own. It punishes kids who come from unstable homes or whose parents have too much going on to focus on that.

H has 3 assignments due a week and they are all due Sunday at 8. They’re pretty easy, like her reading assignment she did this morning was to listen to a book, tell me what it was about and draw a picture of what she thinks happened after the book. Then I took a pic and sent it to her teacher. They have to have some way to document what they’re doing/learning.

[inthekitty]

Apr 7, 2020 11:46:32 GMT -6 trtlcrzy said:

Apr 7, 2020 11:29:20 GMT -6 inthekitty said:

I think it's more than extra, even when not during a pandemic with homeschooling, to closely track assignments in K (or even up to say, 3rd grade) because so much of what is completed for homework is dependent on parents being involved and taking the initiative. There are always exceptions, but most 6-8 yos aren't responsible enough to keep track of their own work outside of school and ensure they turn everything in on their own. It punishes kids who come from unstable homes or whose parents have too much going on to focus on that.

H has 3 assignments due a week and they are all due Sunday at 8. They’re pretty easy, like her reading assignment she did this morning was to listen to a book, tell me what it was about and draw a picture of what she thinks happened after the book. Then I took a pic and sent it to her teacher. They have to have some way to document what they’re doing/learning.

I realize that a lot depends on what their districts are asking of them, but I think it should be sufficient to provide a list of possible activities assigned (reading, some worksheets, listen to video of teacher reading a book, etc.) to their bosses, but requiring work turned in by each student in a specific format is a different thing. Some parents are just not going to be on top of it for various reasons. Closely monitoring that Tommy and Sally are missing assignments 4 and 7 and marking them down for that is overkill. 

[cagoldi]

Apr 7, 2020 12:27:37 GMT -6 inthekitty said:

Apr 7, 2020 11:46:32 GMT -6 trtlcrzy said:

H has 3 assignments due a week and they are all due Sunday at 8. They’re pretty easy, like her reading assignment she did this morning was to listen to a book, tell me what it was about and draw a picture of what she thinks happened after the book. Then I took a pic and sent it to her teacher. They have to have some way to document what they’re doing/learning.

I realize that a lot depends on what their districts are asking of them, but I think it should be sufficient to provide a list of possible activities assigned (reading, some worksheets, listen to video of teacher reading a book, etc.) to their bosses, but requiring work turned in by each student in a specific format is a different thing. Some parents are just not going to be on top of it for various reasons. Closely monitoring that Tommy and Sally are missing assignments 4 and 7 and marking them down for that is overkill. 

Agreed, and I’m not doing it if that’s what they start to expect.

There is absolutely no way to accomplish that while working full-time and supervising two other small children.

I’m getting pretty fed up with the constant barrage of updates and people insisting it can all be done, they do it all the time. No, they don’t. I’m expected to be a kindergarten teacher, special ed preschool teacher, preschool teacher, speech therapist, OT, and PT, plus maintain my regular productivity at work, plus continue mothering and cooking and cleaning all at the same damn time. I have to keep everyone from losing their mind when they have very little access to things necessary for their well-being. We have no yard, and Dog forbid you run out of any groceries, you’re going to spend way more time and energy each week shopping for what you need.

It’s almost as if it’s entirely dependent on the ages, temperament, abilities, stages of development, and life circumstances and they might be different for every family.

There aren’t enough hours in the day, I don’t have enough hands, arms, legs, and laps. The stress is literally eating my brain.

I’m prioritizing our very tenuous relationship with our mental health right now.

ETA: that was in no way directed at you, trtlcrzy. I’m thinking of some of the moms that insist this is the same as SAH and homeschooling. It’s not anything at all like that.

[cagoldi]

And yes, there is some real bias against single parent households (8/10 times headed by women), and differently abled adults and children alike with all this bullshit.

But that’s how things generally play out anyway.

[nam2013]

cagoldi for what it’s worth, you have a lot on you’re plate and you’re doing an amazing job!

[cagoldi]

Apr 7, 2020 12:53:30 GMT -6 nam2013 said:

cagoldi for what it’s worth, you have a lot on you’re plate and you’re doing an amazing job!

IDK. We all do right now. 🤷‍♀️

I’m somehow maintaining my patience even though I feel Iike an angry bear. Not sure how long that can go on, though.

[nam2013]

Apr 7, 2020 12:59:49 GMT -6 cagoldi said:

Apr 7, 2020 12:53:30 GMT -6 nam2013 said:

cagoldi for what it’s worth, you have a lot on you’re plate and you’re doing an amazing job!

IDK. We all do right now. 🤷‍♀️

I’m somehow maintaining my patience even though I feel Iike an angry bear. Not sure how long that can go on, though.

Come vent here if you need too. We’re here.

[trtlcrzy]

cagoldi I def don’t think they should be expecting a full day of learning as if they were at traditional school. We do our best and if that means that some days we don’t do anything and other days we double up then so be it. S’s school work is basically just fun for her to do and I put no pressure on her. I am not a teacher and never wanted to be one so I’m not pretending to be. I am very happy with the way our distance learning is working and the expectations the teachers are putting forth. I would not be happy if I had to submit every single thing H has to do every day. Surviving not thriving is my mantra.

[lahdeedah]

Apr 7, 2020 7:54:44 GMT -6 tgrimes said:

Apr 7, 2020 7:43:12 GMT -6 lfig said:

S was like this. And I dreaded breaking her from it. But it actually wasn’t too bad. And once she was off it she actually slept better! Less waking up! Just to give you a little glimmer of hope. Lol.

I just feel terrible to do it to him since he's always sick.  With M,  MH took her to the dentist and he said she needed to get rid of it.  So that night he threw them all out.  Not delightful with a newborn but whatever.  

We read pacifiers are not forever and he says he's going to give all his pacis to baby A (my niece) and baby P (our friend's daughter).  Lol.

Last night was not delightful. He slept fine the first two nights. He had a MoTN wake up last night and he cried forever. He wouldn’t tell us if anything was wrong, but I knew if he had his baba- that would have nipped it in the bud quick. It was not delightful because I just fallen asleep and it took me forever to fall back to sleep. I hope that was a one off.

[guster]

cagoldi, have you seen the article circulating on medium.com, Parents Are Not Ok. It is very real and I’m glad it was written.

[cagoldi]

Apr 7, 2020 14:12:47 GMT -6 guster said:

cagoldi, have you seen the article circulating on medium.com, Parents Are Not Ok. It is very real and I’m glad it was written.

Yes and my personal opinion is the kids are not okay, either.

And so much of why I am not okay, and other parents, is because we’re worrying about the long term effects on our children.

[peachsmama]

Apr 7, 2020 12:43:20 GMT -6 cagoldi said:

Apr 7, 2020 12:27:37 GMT -6 inthekitty said:

I realize that a lot depends on what their districts are asking of them, but I think it should be sufficient to provide a list of possible activities assigned (reading, some worksheets, listen to video of teacher reading a book, etc.) to their bosses, but requiring work turned in by each student in a specific format is a different thing. Some parents are just not going to be on top of it for various reasons. Closely monitoring that Tommy and Sally are missing assignments 4 and 7 and marking them down for that is overkill. 

Agreed, and I’m not doing it if that’s what they start to expect.

There is absolutely no way to accomplish that while working full-time and supervising two other small children.

I’m getting pretty fed up with the constant barrage of updates and people insisting it can all be done, they do it all the time. No, they don’t. I’m expected to be a kindergarten teacher, special ed preschool teacher, preschool teacher, speech therapist, OT, and PT, plus maintain my regular productivity at work, plus continue mothering and cooking and cleaning all at the same damn time. I have to keep everyone from losing their mind when they have very little access to things necessary for their well-being. We have no yard, and Dog forbid you run out of any groceries, you’re going to spend way more time and energy each week shopping for what you need.

It’s almost as if it’s entirely dependent on the ages, temperament, abilities, stages of development, and life circumstances and they might be different for every family.

There aren’t enough hours in the day, I don’t have enough hands, arms, legs, and laps. The stress is literally eating my brain.

I’m prioritizing our very tenuous relationship with our mental health right now.

ETA: that was in no way directed at you, trtlcrzy. I’m thinking of some of the moms that insist this is the same as SAH and homeschooling. It’s not anything at all like that.

My friend is a stay at home mom and home schools. Their world has also been rocked. They spend about 2 hours doing "table work" normally and the rest is hands on learning. Poor, museums, parks, nature, and all of that was shut down. She has said that comparing this to home schooling isnt a fair comparison as this is much much harder.