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Post by lucilleaustero on Aug 29, 2019 5:44:03 GMT -6
Re: infertility.
We had a SLC Mormon, from a pretty prominent family on our bmb that struggled with infertility. She spoke often about the lengths she and her husband went to to keep it a secret. She said it is definitely frowned about to utilize IVF to get pregnant.
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Post by Madymoiselle on Aug 29, 2019 23:34:00 GMT -6
Re: infertility. We had a SLC Mormon, from a pretty prominent family on our bmb that struggled with infertility. She spoke often about the lengths she and her husband went to to keep it a secret. She said it is definitely frowned about to utilize IVF to get pregnant. Hum that’s interesting. Rachel posted pics from the OB office while doing IUI this week 🙄
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Post by ripper on Sept 10, 2019 9:21:02 GMT -6
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Post by ripper on Sept 10, 2019 9:21:34 GMT -6
Oh, and if this needed to be said, there is no medical indication for a service like this, nor is it a service provided to men. SO.
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Post by drr on Sept 10, 2019 10:01:42 GMT -6
Holy. Shit. This is absurd and makes me SO angry. I know a number of people who went to school there, so I will definitely be asking them about this (none are Ob/Gyns though- so low probability they even know this exists). On a separate note- I love following Jen on twitter. She is awesome!
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Post by donnameagle on Sept 10, 2019 10:10:05 GMT -6
What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.
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Post by oreobitsy on Sept 10, 2019 19:59:42 GMT -6
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Post by drr on Sept 11, 2019 4:44:53 GMT -6
If it were just for sex education then I can see it as being a useful aspect. Utah is painfully behind on sex education*. I also suspect the terminology is because the word “gynecology” is associated with sex, and if it’s rephrased then women who have not yet had sex are more likely to visit with the premarital phrasing. I do wonder if this might be a way (executed VERY poorly) for the Utah health system to try to identify women who are being pushed into marriages before they are ready?
That being said. Wtf. This makes me so angry. The prophylactic antibiotics and the inaccurate information regarding UTIs on that website should be stopped immediately.
I’m divided on the dilator use- and I’m actually very surprised it is being recommended and more surprised this patient population is ok with it before marriage. Women raised in environments where “sex is bad” is the mantra until suddenly after marriage “sex is good” are more likely to struggle with sex the first time. It’s hard to overcome the mental hurdle of “don’t have sex” to suddenly “have sex”. Purity culture can be very detrimental for women’s sex lives because of how it’s approached (using language that devalues women who have sex before marriage etc etc). All of that being said, I’m wondering if the dilators are used that often, particularly considering trends in purity culture generally stay away from anything in the vagina until after marriage, including tampons.
*ive heard some crazy stories from people about what they were and were not told. One that stands out, an acquaintance of a friend had her husband freak out on their wedding night and leave the room after the bride took off her clothes. He called his dad and told his dad the wedding was off because his bride was a man. The groom didn’t know women had pubic hair and thought only men did. His dad had to explain female anatomy/ placement of hair to him on the phone.
Edit: I should clarify- the above is not limited to mormons, and there are people who present the religious aspect of waiting until marriage in a positive and respectful way that does not devalue anyone or make someone seem less than if they participate in pre-marital sex. Unfortunately those circumstances are not always the case, and there are people who take the waiting until marriage/purity culture to an extreme that can be psychologically damaging.
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Post by ripper on Oct 7, 2019 14:49:04 GMT -6
MegDawg's wedding to fiance 2.0 is happening this Saturday. I'm very excited.
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Post by donnameagle on Oct 8, 2019 10:28:35 GMT -6
MegDawg's wedding to fiance 2.0 is happening this Saturday. I'm very excited. Weird that they aren't posting about it... at all.
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Post by ripper on Oct 8, 2019 10:48:12 GMT -6
MegDawg's wedding to fiance 2.0 is happening this Saturday. I'm very excited. Weird that they aren't posting about it... at all. I KNOW
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 8, 2019 13:26:59 GMT -6
MegDawg's wedding to fiance 2.0 is happening this Saturday. I'm very excited. Weird that they aren't posting about it... at all. Oooooo do we think it might not be happening?
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Post by ripper on Oct 8, 2019 13:37:19 GMT -6
Weird that they aren't posting about it... at all. Oooooo do we think it might not be happening? I mean, Rach did IG story the flower girl dress this morning. SO, I think it's happening.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 8, 2019 14:00:00 GMT -6
Oooooo do we think it might not be happening? I mean, Rach did IG story the flower girl dress this morning. SO, I think it's happening. Boooooooo. I'm only interested in awkward breakups and cold feet.
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Post by kmkd on Oct 9, 2019 18:26:21 GMT -6
ripper go look at Megan’s IG story. Much modest Mormon.
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Post by Madymoiselle on Oct 9, 2019 22:53:35 GMT -6
Omg go over to the sisters stories. Any of them really, it is Meg’s bachelorette party and it is hilariously awkward. And all if them screaming/singing Like A Virgiiiiin, touched for the very first tiiiiiime 😂😂😂
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Post by coco on Oct 10, 2019 6:54:45 GMT -6
I can’t believe what I just watched. I have second hand embarrassment for all these women.
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Post by donnameagle on Oct 14, 2019 8:01:19 GMT -6
ripper, did you catch up on wedding stuff this weekend? It was hands down, gorgeous. I am confused by how small it was though - not the temple thing but the reception. Rach said there was 600 ppl - LOL like hell there was. The same 7 people who always hang out were on the dance floor.
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Post by ripper on Oct 14, 2019 9:51:41 GMT -6
ripper, did you catch up on wedding stuff this weekend? It was hands down, gorgeous. I am confused by how small it was though - not the temple thing but the reception. Rach said there was 600 ppl - LOL like hell there was. The same 7 people who always hang out were on the dance floor. I saw but ONE Snapchat video out of all of them that looked like there were people on the dance floor other than the 20 SKALLADASHIANS. (Lol - that was an autocorrect! Weird since I don’t exactly use that term ever). I guess they only feed immediate family and then they move on the the cake and dancing? It looked like a long as fuck day, up at 4 am, multiple dress changes and not just for the bride. Diet Coke hangovers for sure.
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Post by ripper on Oct 14, 2019 9:56:13 GMT -6
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Post by ripper on Oct 14, 2019 9:56:48 GMT -6
“Last night” reference.
MEG DAWG GOT THE ZACHARY BONE
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Post by Madymoiselle on Oct 14, 2019 11:20:23 GMT -6
“Last night” reference. MEG DAWG GOT THE ZACHARY BONE Lol, I could not stop thinking about this every time she was mentioning ‘last night’ 😂 I caught up on all the wedding stuff, it was gorgeous for sure ! Seemed to be super chilly though as they all wore heavy coats or blankets. Meg’s dress looked beautiful.
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