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Post by dragonflyinn on Jun 28, 2017 15:08:51 GMT -6
Yes RE: moving oldest out of the crib...our plan is to do so but only bc of our circumstances, DH will be deploying when baby #2 is 3 months old & DD will have just turned 3. I don't want to deal with the crib to bed transition alone so we are planning to transition DD in November/December...she will be a few months shy of 3 but at least I'll have help from DH for the transition. We will eventually have both kids sharing a room so I want DD to be totally cool with her bed by the time baby moves into the room too.
But yes in general no rush, especially since most keep baby in their room with them for several months. We were weirdos and kicked DD out at 2 months bc she was noisy & DH is a light sleeper lol. It wasn't working for anybody.
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Post by watermelonseed on Jun 28, 2017 15:39:02 GMT -6
tiffrobot hearing going from 1 to 2 was a little easier is comforting. How early was your DS? He was born at 33w3d but was as healthy as he could have been that early, we were very lucky he was so ready. But as you can see by my post in the randoms thread, we've had a few scares that keep our anxiety high with him. That's great he was born healthy! Still scary at times I'm sure. My daughter was born at 34w 4d. I also get nervous about certain things, but she was healthy at birth too.
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Post by tiffrobot on Jun 28, 2017 16:01:39 GMT -6
Omg, +1 to saying your kids are two completely different people.
When I was pregnant with DD we would say things like "awe it's so cute to imagine a little person who looks like DS around". Ok these two kids are so different they don't even look the same lol. It definitely piques our curiousity a lot more on who kid #3 will be.
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Post by meladorie on Jun 28, 2017 16:06:49 GMT -6
STMs etc TTMA What you found helpful the second time (or more)around such as Products Mat Leave Tips Hospital Stay Extra! Products: best: rock n play sleeper, white noise (I use an iPad app), snuza alarm, the zip up jammies, Dr brown bottles, infant car seat (loved my Chico key fit), baby wearing stuff (Tula, Lenny, and ktan). Unnecessary: a crib lol, bottle warmer, a fancy changing table, anything with snaps instead of zippers, Mat leave: take it all! Hospital stay: ours was 9 weeks early and in the NICU 7 weeks so my tips only apply to that. Extra: car seats meet the same safety standards. A big factor in choosing one should be if you plan to take it in and out of cars regularly, size of the car, etc. Pick one and don't stress. I had a breakdown in BRU trying to choose my first one lol.
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Post by rebeccabunch on Jun 28, 2017 16:38:13 GMT -6
STMs etc TTMA What you found helpful the second time (or more)around such as Products Mat Leave Tips Hospital Stay Extra! Products: best: rock n play sleeper, white noise (I use an iPad app), snuza alarm, the zip up jammies, Dr brown bottles, infant car seat (loved my Chico key fit), baby wearing stuff (Tula, Lenny, and ktan). Unnecessary: a crib lol, bottle warmer, a fancy changing table, anything with snaps instead of zippers, Mat leave: take it all! Hospital stay: ours was 9 weeks early and in the NICU 7 weeks so my tips only apply to that. Extra: car seats meet the same safety standards. A big factor in choosing one should be if you plan to take it in and out of cars regularly, size of the car, etc. Pick one and don't stress. I had a breakdown in BRU trying to choose my first one lol. +1 to zippers being easier than snaps! I totally forgot about that!
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Post by blueskiessmiling on Jun 28, 2017 17:22:15 GMT -6
Products: Ergo (DD was only content if held); Summer Infant Velcro swaddle wraps, then the Zipadeezip; video monitor. I still love DD's video monitor to make sure she's staying in her bed and will probably invest in another; hands free pumping bra if you will be pumping on a regular basis. The car adapter and battery pack for the pump was also super helpful.
Unnecessary: changing table, 9 million receiving blankets, Bumbo- I am definitely buying a Sit Me Up this time around.
Mat Leave: just going to echo the need to get out regularly. In addition to needing it for my mental wellbeing, it also built my confidence that I could handle DD out and about on my own.
Hospital: I guess I'm the odd man out that I underpacked for the hospital. DD was born at 37.5 weeks, so we weren't sure labor was the real deal (ok, my H tried to convince me it may not be. I had been up awake all night with contractions, so I was pretty much positive, but anyway...). Maternity shirts were convenient for nursing. I preferred wearing my nursing sleep bras at the hospital since I was nursing so often. Always Infinity pads were the absolute best.
Extra: Sleep train sooner rather than later if sleep is an issue. I held out way, WAY too long with DD and regret not doing it sooner. I'm a much better mom when well rested.
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Post by sarahh on Jun 28, 2017 17:39:18 GMT -6
Products: best: rock n play sleeper, white noise (I use an iPad app), snuza alarm, the zip up jammies, Dr brown bottles, infant car seat (loved my Chico key fit), baby wearing stuff (Tula, Lenny, and ktan). Unnecessary: a crib lol, bottle warmer, a fancy changing table, anything with snaps instead of zippers, Mat leave: take it all! Hospital stay: ours was 9 weeks early and in the NICU 7 weeks so my tips only apply to that. Extra: car seats meet the same safety standards. A big factor in choosing one should be if you plan to take it in and out of cars regularly, size of the car, etc. Pick one and don't stress. I had a breakdown in BRU trying to choose my first one lol. +1 to zippers being easier than snaps! I totally forgot about that! +1 for the snuza, Dr Browns bottles and key fit car seat!
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Post by easternshoregirl on Jun 28, 2017 18:49:00 GMT -6
products: rock n play, swaddler blankets, zip up outfits, lanolin, The cosleeper was unnecessary for us due to DS's reflux but we'll try it again definitely enough supplies to set up a changing station on each level of the house, I also plan to borrow a RnP to keep one downstairs and one upstairs I didn't like the Boba that much but I do want a K'tan this time. I also got a lot of use from a linen ring sling b/c E was born in August, that was nice and light. When he got bigger, we loved the Ergo. We didn't have to stress about bottles, E loved my milk no matter which way it came! We ended up with Avent Naturals, I think. For pumping, so much....hands free bra, extra parts and membranes, lots of bottles, Pumpin Pals flanges, a cover. Get a good double electric if you plan on doing it regularly. I hooked up to that thing for like 90 min a day to support E's milk consumption.
mat leave tips: I went into mat leave with unrealistic expectations, I thought I would be able to get stuff done around the house (silly me!). This time, I will try to remember it will take all of my energy to keep the baby alive. About 2 months in, I started to feel like I was getting the hang of it, then had to go back to work at 3 months and I had to learn a whole new way of life! For me, getting out of the house and taking a shower every day were must-haves. Talking to a lot of other moms for support. Seek out help when you need it, it can be hard to ask for help but usually people are happy to do so, especially if you can specify something (can you please go pick up some milk for us at the store? can you come over for 15 min this afternoon so I can get a shower?). I know some people don't worry about setting up the nursery until after baby comes, but we did it before and I am glad. There's no way I could have handled that.
hospital stay: blankets! Nobody mentioned them but I was so cold the whole time, this time I'm planning on bringing some big fluffy cozy blankets. Also what others said: slippers, nursing bras, for me I liked having my special shampoo and a razor. I felt like labor was kind of like running a marathon (except mine was like 40+ hours....) and for me after a marathon, I like a really good shampoo and to shave my legs! Weird, I know.
extra: yes to freezer meals! I do plan on getting a double BOB, it is my main opportunity to get in any miles so I'll start stalking Craigslist for a decent secondhand one. If people offer to bring you meals, try to (politely) request it not be a cheesy pasta dish...that tends to be what a lot of people make. E's reflux was worse when I had dairy, so I went dairy free for a few months. Unless you love lasagna!
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Post by readinglove on Jun 28, 2017 19:14:53 GMT -6
Products : I didn't have a carrier (Ergo, Lillebaby, etc) with DS, but will definitely be getting one this go around. DS loved his floor play mat jungle gym thing (very descriptive, I know), and the bouncy seat made things like taking a shower easier. Mat Leave Tips : Nap as much as you can. It can be hard because there's always something to do, but dishes and laundry will be there to deal with later. If people offer to bring you food, say yes. If people offer to do anything for you, say yes. Enjoy the newborn snuggles as much as you can. Take care of yourself - whether that means going for a walk, going to the store, watching an episode of a TV show, whatever - if you're not taking care of yourself, it's so much harder to take care of LO. Eat. Set an alarm if you have to. Hospital Stay : If you're picky about pads, bring your own. Bring clothes you'll be comfy in - zip-up sweatshirts were my favorite. Having your own shampoo/soap/etc can help you feel more human. Don't over pack. If you don't want visitors or need people to leave but don't want to say so, tell your nurses - they'll take care of getting people out. Bring snacks for DH if he'll be staying with you. Having your own pillow is highly recommended. Extra!: Be flexible. With baby, your partner, visitors, everyone. But at the same time, advocate for yourself. If you're not up for visitors, say so. Have Kleenex, because you'll cry at ridiculous things - and not-so-ridiculous things.
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Post by notmoose on Jun 28, 2017 19:58:16 GMT -6
Products: The tula was my best friend. I tried the baby ktan and another one I can't think of the name, and they sucked. Tula all the way.
Backpack diaper bag. I love mine. I can put it on and it doesn't get in the way, slip off my shoulder, and it has lots of compartments.
Mat leave: I'm a sahm, so I don't have tips here.
Hospital stay: Comfy clothes. Remember your chargers, camera, tablet, w/e. I brought my nursing pillow last time and I'm glad I did, I hate using just pillows. I brought a notebook too so I could quickly write down stats/details I wanted to remember.
Extra: don't be afraid to ask for help. With my second I just did everything on my own, MH had no idea I was struggling and feeling like I had no help... because I didn't ask or tell him what I needed.
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Post by mrsp84 on Jun 28, 2017 20:05:12 GMT -6
Products: Ergo (DD was only content if held); Summer Infant Velcro swaddle wraps, then the Zipadeezip; video monitor. I still love DD's video monitor to make sure she's staying in her bed and will probably invest in another; hands free pumping bra if you will be pumping on a regular basis. The car adapter and battery pack for the pump was also super helpful. Unnecessary: changing table, 9 million receiving blankets, Bumbo- I am definitely buying a Sit Me Up this time around. Mat Leave: just going to echo the need to get out regularly. In addition to needing it for my mental wellbeing, it also built my confidence that I could handle DD out and about on my own. Hospital: I guess I'm the odd man out that I underpacked for the hospital. DD was born at 37.5 weeks, so we weren't sure labor was the real deal (ok, my H tried to convince me it may not be. I had been up awake all night with contractions, so I was pretty much positive, but anyway...). Maternity shirts were convenient for nursing. I preferred wearing my nursing sleep bras at the hospital since I was nursing so often. Always Infinity pads were the absolute best. Extra: Sleep train sooner rather than later if sleep is an issue. I held out way, WAY too long with DD and regret not doing it sooner. I'm a much better mom when well rested. 1000x yes on sleep training. When DD was born, her schedule was completely opposite. It took us a couple weeks to fix it, but it was glorious when we got her to sleep at night and minimally throughout the day.
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Post by mrsp84 on Jun 28, 2017 20:18:06 GMT -6
TTM to be here. Couple general statements for those going from 1 to 2 The whole thing is different the second time around because it's less about WTF am I doing and more about how can I manage multiple kid's needs. When we just had DS1, my H and would spilt up a lot of duties so one parent was on and the other got a total break. We are back to doing that now but when you just have #2 I found that one of us would at least have one kid and it was an adjustment. Be prepared to to think being just with the baby is the easy part and your older child is the hard one! Products - I could write forever but I won't. Hands free pump bra and extra sets of pump parts were a must for me. I'm a super swaddler so I love A&A blankets. Basically think about what will make your life easier. I did a lot of setting up stations like extra pjs, diapers, burp cloths, shirt for me on every level so I wasn't running all over up/down the house bc depending on the age of your older one you can't just leave your baby w your older child. Luna bars and big water bottles handy. Mat leave tips - not to expect everyday to be this rosy child loving fantasy I had in my mind. Some days will be better than expected. Some days will be a nightmare. I literally wanted to pop a bottle of champagne when I took both boys to Target alone when I was 2 weeks pp. You will get through it. It will be a memory and one day when you are a grandma you will wax poetically about how wonderful those crazy days were! DS1 was a very difficult baby and I kept reminding myself people have more than one kid on purpose most of the time. It must get better. Oh if this is your second, your two kids may be very different. You could do the exact same thing w 2 that you did w 1 and it could yield different results. This is obvious but DS1 cried all day and would t nap but STTN since 3 weeks. DS2 did nothing but eat and sleep all day and still struggles to STTN at 2.5. You win some you lose some. +1 to showering and making meals ahead If you currently have childcare and can afford to keep it for older children while on leave, even at part time, do it. Hospital Stay - I love the mesh underwear! I must be a weirdo! Yes to better pads like hiimjamie said. Always infinity makes really good overnight strength thin pads. Stock up! Have a bunch ready at home. Even if you expect a vaginal delivery maybe pack one pair of pants that's not super tight. I had an unexpected C w DS1 and only packed tight yoga pants. What was I thinking? Eventually I wanted to wear something besides my gown but I didn't have the right pants. This is a personal decision but I didn't send DS1 to the nursery at all because I was so worried it would impact BF. For DS2 I sent him each night! It was glorious. DS1 was really sick when we went to bring DS2 home so he had to stay at my parents for 2 nights. My H and I got the first couple nights alone w DS2 at home and it was also glorious we kept joking it felt like we were at a relaxing spa just being w DS2. While I know that's not feasible in all cases, it helped us adjust. My parents are going to keep the boys for the first night we bring this baby home. What else? We have the Uppababy Vista. I loved it for a single stroller but am not thrilled with their rumble seat option. I wish I'd gotten a Bob or Citi to begin with. DS1 is now too old for a stroller and DS2 refuses so maybe I'll like using the Vista again as a single! People don't always agree with this but I don't always get the pressure to get the older child out of the crib for the new baby. Maybe it's because I didn't purchase expensive cribs but DS1 was just 2 when DS1 was born. He slept so good in his crib we decided the $100 on another crib was worth not dealing with another sleep variable. I realize some kids are totally ready for a bed but if I couldn't afford another crib I would've rather put my new baby in a PnP. I had a lot to say! One of the things I wish the hospital has that I'll be delivering at, is a nursery. I'm really hoping I don't have to get induced again like I was with DD. We were there for almost 3 days before she was born and my L&D took forever and both MH and I were exhausted to the point we'd fall asleep talking to each other. He went to the nurses station asking if they could take DD for a couple hours so we could sleep. They laughed at his request and basically said we needed to figure it out. I get it, but I also think there should be an option for those situations where the mother went through a long labor and is super exhausted. Most hospitals near me are getting rid of nurseries and becoming more "baby friendly" encouraging the babies stay in the room with mom.
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Post by ajetter on Jun 29, 2017 3:04:10 GMT -6
Sorry I'm not following format...
We love having a video monitor. I have a Lille baby carrier. White noise machines are great. We have been through an array of bath tubs. Something that can work in the sink is awesome. With my first two we just propped them in there with towels. With my third we got an angel care bath seat and really liked it.
I personally splurged on a high quality diaper bag with each babe, and have gotten great use out of them. Currently carrying a Lily Jade bag. Looking at a Fawn Design bag for this babe. I don't buy other purses and stuff so it's worth it for me. And back pack style is great so you have two hands!!
Hell yes to one piece outfits that don't go over the head. I swear trying to get tiny newborn arms into a tiny newborn onesie is absurd.
Boo to hospitals that don't have a nursery. My third never slept even as a newborn. She didn't just pass out (and screamed for the first four months of her life, how I want another I have no idea). Having the nurses take her a couple times so I could actually recover from delivery was amazing.
We have a City Select that lives in my car and a double bob that stays in the garage. I love the configurations for the select, but much prefer the bob for walks.
Breakfast burritos in the freezer were my saving grace when my third was born. Nursing made me wake up ravenous and being able to pop something filling into the microwave saved me from losing my shit. Definitely have some things in your freezer!
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Post by onatrain on Jun 29, 2017 6:23:56 GMT -6
Regarding the nursery at the hospital, I am so so glad we had that option where we delivered. I ended up being in the hospital for about 5 days and during the night the nursery nurses would bring my kiddo every three hours unless he seemed hungry sooner. When we got home, that night routine stuck for the most part.
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Post by amesie on Jun 29, 2017 6:36:10 GMT -6
Yes RE: moving oldest out of the crib...our plan is to do so but only bc of our circumstances, DH will be deploying when baby #2 is 3 months old & DD will have just turned 3. I don't want to deal with the crib to bed transition alone so we are planning to transition DD in November/December...she will be a few months shy of 3 but at least I'll have help from DH for the transition. We will eventually have both kids sharing a room so I want DD to be totally cool with her bed by the time baby moves into the room too. But yes in general no rush, especially since most keep baby in their room with them for several months. We were weirdos and kicked DD out at 2 months bc she was noisy & DH is a light sleeper lol. It wasn't working for anybody. we are planning the exact timeline for N for bed transition! We can commiserate together haha. N does so well in a crib especially now that I flipped it and she no longer is able to climb out. But I really don't want to buy another crib
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Post by amesie on Jun 29, 2017 6:44:22 GMT -6
Snip +1 to zippers being easier than snaps! I totally forgot about that! ***stuck in a box***even better than zippers are the little nightgowns with the elastic ends!! DD lived in those at night time for weeks. It was sooooo easy
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Post by bosco on Jun 29, 2017 7:02:26 GMT -6
STMs etc TTMA What you found helpful the second time (or more)around such as Products Mat Leave Tips Hospital Stay Extra! We got the most use out of our mamaroo, Velcro swaddles and sound machine. I loved a ktan in the beginning then graduated to a boba wrap when I felt more comfortable. I also have an ergo 360 and Tula and love them both! For the hospital stay I LOVED having my own clothes. I changed immediately and it made me feel so much better. I hated the mesh panties...I got boxer briefs for women at target and they're the best. Enough support for an ice pack and big pad. The doc will tell you not to take baby out of the house for 6-8 weeks. I'm sure I'll feel differently this time around because it's flu season, but we left the house at 2 weeks. I could feel baby blues setting in and just leaving the house made me feel so much better.
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Post by bosco on Jun 29, 2017 7:08:41 GMT -6
Ooh, and don't tell people ahead of time they'll be welcome to visit you at the hospital - wait and see how it goes. I had planned on having people come visit but I was exhausted...the nurses and doctors (and in our hospital, LCs, masseurs, photographers, it's ridiculously), were in and out constantly. I got maybe 2 hours of sleep in the 3 days we were there and the last thing I wanted to do was entertain someone.
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Post by jessijean on Jun 29, 2017 8:28:26 GMT -6
Products I made my own hands free pump bra by cutting nipple holes in an old sports bra. I had 2-3 of them in rotation because I was exclusively pumping (for 11.5 months). That was a lifesaver.
Mat Leave Tips I honestly went into it thinking I'd be back to normal after a week. It took the full 6 weeks before I felt human again. I don't get a mat leave this time but will be able to work from home part time. Nap often and let yourself relax, don't focus so much on the chores.
Hospital Stay My hospital stay was honestly miserable and I think I got a total of 3 hours of sleep from Saturday night through Tuesday evening. They kept me in an extra 12 hours+ to try to get breastfeeding established then forced an LC visit on me the next morning. I plan to bring my own clothes. I had never had SO many people touch my boobs. Every nurse was trying to help with breastfeeding... that's a whole other story. I plan to use my pump in the hospital regardless of what the nurses suggest.
I'm sure there's more but that's all for now.
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Post by dragonflyinn on Jun 29, 2017 8:29:56 GMT -6
Ooh, and don't tell people ahead of time they'll be welcome to visit you at the hospital - wait and see how it goes. I had planned on having people come visit but I was exhausted...the nurses and doctors (and in our hospital, LCs, masseurs, photographers, it's ridiculously), were in and out constantly. I got maybe 2 hours of sleep in the 3 days we were there and the last thing I wanted to do was entertain someone. THIS. I hate people so I told DH nobody was allowed lol. My mom was visiting so she was there but not the whole time. I also made sure he wasn't "live blogging" my labor-- DNW people blowing up our phones about how it's going. We didn't even tell anyone we were at the hospital until we knew I was going to have the baby that night. (Not even our parents)
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Post by notmoose on Jun 29, 2017 9:21:52 GMT -6
Yes RE: moving oldest out of the crib...our plan is to do so but only bc of our circumstances, DH will be deploying when baby #2 is 3 months old & DD will have just turned 3. I don't want to deal with the crib to bed transition alone so we are planning to transition DD in November/December...she will be a few months shy of 3 but at least I'll have help from DH for the transition. We will eventually have both kids sharing a room so I want DD to be totally cool with her bed by the time baby moves into the room too. But yes in general no rush, especially since most keep baby in their room with them for several months. We were weirdos and kicked DD out at 2 months bc she was noisy & DH is a light sleeper lol. It wasn't working for anybody. we are planning the exact timeline for N for bed transition! We can commiserate together haha. N does so well in a crib especially now that I flipped it and she no longer is able to climb out. But I really don't want to buy another crib We are also planning to transition from the crib in Nov/Dec. We built DD a new room, so she's moving there and DS will move to her current room (once it's renovated) and DS current room will stay the nursery. I just figured it'd be easier to just go to a twin bed instead of getting another crib for just a few more months.
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Post by hiimjamie on Jun 29, 2017 9:43:43 GMT -6
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Post by ajetter on Jun 29, 2017 12:18:54 GMT -6
Check out the Ollie swaddle. It's pricey but we LOVED IT with number three.
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Post by snowyowl on Jun 29, 2017 14:09:13 GMT -6
Products: If you have a vaginal birth, I used the tuck's witch hazel pads, the pain reducing spray, and ice packs religiously for two weeks. They all helped. Some people don't like the Tuck's, but I kept them in the fridge and layered them on every new pad (like lunch meat on a sandwich, as my pediatric nurse friend told me, ha). It seems like everyone has covered the baby stuff I like.
Mat leave: No amount of time to sleep is too little. Don't say "why bother napping, he/she will be up in 15 minutes anyway." My mom said this to me at one point and the cat naps actually helped me stay a bit more sane.
Hospital stay: I plan to leave as early as possible this time. Most everyone was very nice. But no nursery, and there is definitely an unspoken thing about letting you start doing things on your own after the first day. Plus the bed made my pain much worse. Being home in my own bed was sooo much better.
Extra: I brought my makeup to the hospital sure I would never use it. I just popped it into the bag last minute. I ended up putting it on after my first shower and it was nice to feel a little cuter despite the major puffy face and so on.
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Post by snowyowl on Jun 29, 2017 14:09:56 GMT -6
For those who mentioned a cosleeper, what brand do you like? I want to try that this time around.
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Post by pippiann on Jun 29, 2017 14:24:05 GMT -6
I also loved the bobby lounger! When DS was really little he was just chill on that on the bed or the couch! I didn't have a changing table but will get one this time even if it's just a cheapo from IKEA! +1 to moving DS out of the crib before #2 comes! The crib also converts to a bassinet and want to get #2 using it #1 didn't last long in it! And DS will turn 3 in December so I know he'll be ready!
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Post by ajetter on Jun 29, 2017 14:26:18 GMT -6
For those who mentioned a cosleeper, what brand do you like? I want to try that this time around. We have an arms reach cosleeper. My first slept in it fine. My second two ended up addicted to the rock n play. Whoops. Still going to try and bust it out this time. I like having them right there but in their own space.
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Post by amesie on Jun 29, 2017 15:46:13 GMT -6
For those who mentioned a cosleeper, what brand do you like? I want to try that this time around. I have the arms reach co sleeper. We originally got the mini, but DD was/is TALLLLL and she was like already the length of it at a few months old haha. So we returned it and got the regular size. We used it as our PNP too a few times when we went OOT
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Post by amesie on Jun 29, 2017 15:47:15 GMT -6
I also loved the bobby lounger! When DS was really little he was just chill on that on the bed or the couch! I didn't have a changing table but will get one this time even if it's just a cheapo from IKEA! +1 to moving DS out of the crib before #2 comes! The crib also converts to a bassinet and want to get #2 using it #1 didn't last long in it! And DS will turn 3 in December so I know he'll be ready! I wanna get the lounger this time! We just used the regular boppy last time but it was actually pretty annoying, because as soon as she squirmed or kicked she slid right off it and then was too scrunched.
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Post by pippiann on Jun 29, 2017 16:04:46 GMT -6
amesie we had both! The regular bobby is great to use when they are beginning to sit! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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