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Post by emma on May 15, 2019 14:51:59 GMT -6
but when Will took leave for George it was because he was actively working for the RAF Search and Rescue. He wasn't doing a day here and a day there with charities like Harry is now. And with Charlotte maybe Kate needed the help with the transition from 1 to 2 and George was a handful by all accounts. I'd guess that all this was worked out well in advance and if Meghan wanted Harry home i think he'd do it because he's head over heels for her. I agree, but I still hoped that he would do it and show men that it is ok to push for paternity leave. I understand he doesn't have the typical job and that it is obviously working for them and he has no obligation to push the message. i do hope he takes time off latter on. Like others have said a lot of couples prefer their partners to take time after the first few weeks when things really start to go sideways. I knew a lot of couples here that mum went back to work around 9 months and dad took the next 3 months off on pat leave |
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 14:54:18 GMT -6
I agree, but I still hoped that he would do it and show men that it is ok to push for paternity leave. I understand he doesn't have the typical job and that it is obviously working for them and he has no obligation to push the message. Paternity leave doesn't have to be immediately. Everyone is there is the beginning. Friends, family, neighbours. People drop in, drop by, give you help in a variety of ways (obv, this is a slightly different situation for the duke and duchess, but still pertains to them in their unique way). I'm reminded of a coworker who took a 3 month pat leave at the end of the mat leave b/c he and his wife decided it would be more useful that way. I don't pretend to know H&M's plans, but I think it would be cool if by doing a slightly different pat leave he might end up changing the ideal in more ways than one. It is quite possible. I know the Royals all work slightly less in the summer and correct me if I am wrong ArielMermaid, but take the month of August off completely? so maybe he is thinking that way. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 15:34:16 GMT -6
I agree, but I still hoped that he would do it and show men that it is ok to push for paternity leave. I understand he doesn't have the typical job and that it is obviously working for them and he has no obligation to push the message. Paternity leave doesn't have to be immediately. Everyone is there is the beginning. Friends, family, neighbours. People drop in, drop by, give you help in a variety of ways (obv, this is a slightly different situation for the duke and duchess, but still pertains to them in their unique way). I'm reminded of a coworker who took a 3 month pat leave at the end of the mat leave b/c he and his wife decided it would be more useful that way. I don't pretend to know H&M's plans, but I think it would be cool if by doing a slightly different pat leave he might end up changing the ideal in more ways than one. This is what DH did both times. Granted, it was weeks, not months, but it was the best thing ever. I got to go ease back into working with the knowledge that DH was watching my kids, and he got to be the sole care provider for each of them. |
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Post by auburn on May 15, 2019 15:55:06 GMT -6
I was just having a conversation about something that confused me. I didn’t think anyone meant Harry should refuse to leave his house. From what I’ve seen, and maybe it’s not everything, it doesn’t seem like he’s been gone all that much.
I have a friend whose husband takes paternity leave at the end of her maternity leave. She loves it and it has made her transition back to work easier.
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Post by jorkzy on May 15, 2019 16:11:04 GMT -6
Also I’m not sure what the current pat leave is in the UK but the optics of a lesser (albeit popular) royal being the one to push might not be great. Many believe the monarchy are taxpayer funded anyways so it might backfire in terms of public support.
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 15, 2019 18:00:16 GMT -6
Also I’m not sure what the current pat leave is in the UK but the optics of a lesser (albeit popular) royal being the one to push might not be great. Many believe the monarchy are taxpayer funded anyways so it might backfire in terms of public support. Royal men generally take the paternity leave though. Harry is really well liked too. I think he could get away with whatever he wants. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 15, 2019 18:01:20 GMT -6
Paternity leave doesn't have to be immediately. Everyone is there is the beginning. Friends, family, neighbours. People drop in, drop by, give you help in a variety of ways (obv, this is a slightly different situation for the duke and duchess, but still pertains to them in their unique way). I'm reminded of a coworker who took a 3 month pat leave at the end of the mat leave b/c he and his wife decided it would be more useful that way. I don't pretend to know H&M's plans, but I think it would be cool if by doing a slightly different pat leave he might end up changing the ideal in more ways than one. It is quite possible. I know the Royals all work slightly less in the summer and correct me if I am wrong ArielMermaid, but take the month of August off completely? so maybe he is thinking that way. Summer gets quiet after Trooping. And yeah August is usually a break. I wonder if that’s why there are so many spring babies in the family. 😂 |
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on May 15, 2019 19:03:09 GMT -6
I always wonder if I was just particularly weak or something when these conversations happen because a bunch of people are always talking about how their husbands just made it harder and etc. But H got 3 months paternity, took it right away, and good lord I'm so grateful (I know we were very lucky in what he got). I'm just sitting here waiting for more adorable baby pictures. I only had dh for a few days before he went back to work. I cried. I would not have turned down some paternity leave. |
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Post by Cheshie6 on May 15, 2019 19:13:25 GMT -6
Also the Doria as “lifesaver”/nanny is triggering me and unhealthy issues I have about older black women as nanny/caregiver. This is a personal thing so don’t mean to hash it out here just mentioning that the optics of it all bother me because it’s evoking more than just doting grandma to me. I can understand your feelings. I will say as a mixed gal with a black mom who lives 4+ hours away, and I (like Meghan) married a white guy was well aware of the optics in my predominantly state (yay NH). My mom was mostly moral support, kept me calm when I freaked out about DS not gaining weight, and let me nap during the day to catch up. (It took convincing for the nap because “I signed up to be sleep deprived... lol I blame hormones) She was the only person to get him to not sleep on someone. She made dinner but only because she got tired of my cooking 🤷🏽♀️ If my mom was anything in my 4th trimester, she was a doting mother more than a grandma during that time... now it’s 100% grandma! |
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Post by walker88 on May 15, 2019 19:14:41 GMT -6
I always wonder if I was just particularly weak or something when these conversations happen because a bunch of people are always talking about how their husbands just made it harder and etc. But H got 3 months paternity, took it right away, and good lord I'm so grateful (I know we were very lucky in what he got). I'm just sitting here waiting for more adorable baby pictures. I only had dh for a few days before he went back to work. I cried. I would not have turned down some paternity leave. Yea H took a week. Before the baby came I was like oh we will probably be ready for you to go back to work before then. Cut to Sunday night and the baby being 9 days old and me sobbing and begging H to quit his job. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 15, 2019 19:23:43 GMT -6
I only had dh for a few days before he went back to work. I cried. I would not have turned down some paternity leave. Yea H took a week. Before the baby came I was like oh we will probably be ready for you to go back to work before then. Cut to Sunday night and the baby being 9 days old and me sobbing and begging H to quit his job. I’m suspicious that my babies were harder than others because I felt this too. Like, oh shit. I’m about to be left to do this on my own I’m fucked. |
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Post by armpants on May 15, 2019 20:18:48 GMT -6
I was so happy we came home from the hospital on a Saturday because I actually got H home for Sunday and Monday before he had to go back to work. (H works for a small company that doesn't fall under the FMLA requirement).
Paternity/maternity leave in the US so fucked up.
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Post by willow on May 15, 2019 21:06:15 GMT -6
I am looking forward to having a partner to share the newborn phase with the next time. Doing it on my own the first time was certainly challenging in itself specific ways. The idea of anyone else there helping me during those first few weeks ALL DAY sounds like a goddamn miracle.
It’s odd to me that Harry didn’t want to take more, but I feel like if Meghan really had wanted him there, he’d be there.
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Post by emma on May 15, 2019 21:21:38 GMT -6
I always wonder if I was just particularly weak or something when these conversations happen because a bunch of people are always talking about how their husbands just made it harder and etc. But H got 3 months paternity, took it right away, and good lord I'm so grateful (I know we were very lucky in what he got). I'm just sitting here waiting for more adorable baby pictures. My gosh no, you are not weak. I just had a very easy baby. If I’d had one of those colicky ones I’d 100% feel different about H being home. But as it was, if H had been home he’d have got in the way of my endless TV watching |
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Post by loony on May 15, 2019 21:26:09 GMT -6
I always wonder if I was just particularly weak or something when these conversations happen because a bunch of people are always talking about how their husbands just made it harder and etc. But H got 3 months paternity, took it right away, and good lord I'm so grateful (I know we were very lucky in what he got). I'm just sitting here waiting for more adorable baby pictures. My gosh no, you are not weak. I just had a very easy baby. If I’d had one of those colicky ones I’d 100% feel different about H being home. But as it was, if H had been home he’d have got in the way of my endless TV watching I sent H back to work after 3 days. He basically just got in my way...however, he worked nights, so he took the 12-3am shift and let me sleep, so it worked out well. I had a not easy baby, but all she wanted was boob, so he wasn’t much help in that department. (She never once took a bottle, even 8 hours at daycare or any amount of time with my mom or H). |
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Post by emma on May 15, 2019 22:04:03 GMT -6
I just got an inside scoop on Meghan. The stories about her being demanding and rude are all a load of crap and she’s a lovely person and gets on fine with Kate. Also their house is beautiful and all done in grey and white throughout
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Post by elle on May 15, 2019 22:05:51 GMT -6
I just got an inside scoop on Meghan. The stories about her being demanding and rude are all a load of crap and she’s a lovely person and gets on fine with Kate. Also their house is beautiful and all done in grey and white throughout I believe this, especially about the decor scheme. 😂 |
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Post by ripper on May 15, 2019 23:00:01 GMT -6
I just got an inside scoop on Meghan. The stories about her being demanding and rude are all a load of crap and she’s a lovely person and gets on fine with Kate. Also their house is beautiful and all done in grey and white throughout I believe she is lovely NOW. I also believe she used to be a society climbing calculated self involved snot. I don’t hate her for it. I get it. |
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Post by ripper on May 15, 2019 23:01:00 GMT -6
* or still believe. She can be both. I think she is both. Like I said, I don’t hate it.
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 16, 2019 3:58:54 GMT -6
I have a lot of questions emma! |
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Post by jaidit on May 16, 2019 4:04:48 GMT -6
Letizia today  |
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Post by jaidit on May 16, 2019 4:05:50 GMT -6
Mary today  |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 16, 2019 4:31:47 GMT -6
Bea was honored at a Friends Without A Border Gala in NYC.   |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 16, 2019 4:36:06 GMT -6
Harry has settled a lawsuit with Splash News and Picture Agency that flew a helicopter over their Cotswolds home and photographed it. It was stated that the couple are no longer able to live at them home now due to the security risk. The agency has apologized and PH was rewarded substantial damages.
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 16, 2019 4:49:19 GMT -6
“The helicopter flew over the home at a low altitude allowing Splash to take photographs of & into the living area & dining area of the home & directly into the bedroom..."
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Post by jaidit on May 16, 2019 5:13:33 GMT -6
“The helicopter flew over the home at a low altitude allowing Splash to take photographs of & into the living area & dining area of the home & directly into the bedroom..." 😳 wow |
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Post by tinyjoys on May 16, 2019 5:26:01 GMT -6
“The helicopter flew over the home at a low altitude allowing Splash to take photographs of & into the living area & dining area of the home & directly into the bedroom..." Yikes. I think Harry is definitely in the right here. |
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Post by goldenbird on May 16, 2019 5:31:18 GMT -6
That's awful. How violating.
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 16, 2019 6:04:24 GMT -6
Having pictures of the bedroom makes me sweat.
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Post by angelashly on May 16, 2019 6:35:25 GMT -6
I always wonder if I was just particularly weak or something when these conversations happen because a bunch of people are always talking about how their husbands just made it harder and etc. But H got 3 months paternity, took it right away, and good lord I'm so grateful (I know we were very lucky in what he got). I'm just sitting here waiting for more adorable baby pictures. Not weak at all I honestly am a control freak. Also So was very panicky with dd despite her being fairly easy so it was a lot. Although during her witching hourS between 8-11 I would have done anything for him to be home. |
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