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Post by ArielMermaid on May 15, 2019 12:24:32 GMT -6
I am shocked that cool, modern Harry didn’t do a paternity leave. Even Wills took two weeks off for his first two kids. With Louis he was back a few days later because ANZAC is a huge deal but then after that it was sparse and limited.
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Post by rs4eva on May 15, 2019 12:32:41 GMT -6
Meh. A week old baby is nothing more than a pooping potato at this point. MH got on my nerves more than he helped me at that age. Paternity leave should start at six weeks when the shit hits the fan. |
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Post by ripper on May 15, 2019 12:41:29 GMT -6
Meh. A week old baby is nothing more than a pooping potato at this point. MH got on my nerves more than he helped me at that age. Paternity leave should start at six weeks when the shit hits the fan. Well exactly. Lots of men decide to take PL in the middle or at the end of the mother's leave (around here, at least). When my baby was < 4 months, my house was clean, I had time to cook, I watched alllll the tv. It's not when I wanted or needed the help. |
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Post by jaidit on May 15, 2019 12:41:57 GMT -6
I agree with angelashly that it would be a good opportunity for Harry to push for paternity leave. However, the reality is that most countries have little paternity leave. With my twins, my H got 10 days off for their birth and then 3 weeks to use within 6 months. and that was France AND twins. So I appreciate him following suit with what others are given. (plus, I doubt he is actually working 'full time' right now). |
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Post by ouijabored on May 15, 2019 12:46:34 GMT -6
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Post by Bookshelves on May 15, 2019 13:08:19 GMT -6
I wonder if Meghan and Harry asked visitors to wait. Some friends of ours had the grandparents (who live in the same town) wait a week after their first kid was born. Absolutely no visitors the first week. I’m pretty sure the grandparents still haven’t stopped complaining about that, 10 years later.
I guess H & M couldn’t say no to the queen, though. And Doria was already there.
/baseless speculation
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Post by jaidit on May 15, 2019 13:13:19 GMT -6
Can we talk about Anne’s necklace? 😍  It’s Cartier and the Queen Mother’s  |
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Post by jaidit on May 15, 2019 13:17:27 GMT -6
Charlene is bringing ladybug realness  |
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Post by emma on May 15, 2019 13:19:17 GMT -6
Can we talk about Anne’s necklace? 😍 It’s Cartier and the Queen Mother’s I want very much |
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 13:20:33 GMT -6
Zara is so pretty.
I love the one of her and her daughter and Anne holding hands
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 13:20:46 GMT -6
WANT ANNE'S NECKLACE!
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Post by auburn on May 15, 2019 13:31:54 GMT -6
Say what you want, but Will and Kate have not had the racist comments made to them that would make me really pause and search hard before accepting just any nanny/nurse/or staff. The racist stuff is definitely terrible. I just don't agree with the idea that Harry shouldn't leave her alone. I don't believe that he would leave her, for even a second, if he thought she was in danger. He clearly loves her more than anything. |
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 13:33:14 GMT -6
Say what you want, but Will and Kate have not had the racist comments made to them that would make me really pause and search hard before accepting just any nanny/nurse/or staff. The racist stuff is definitely terrible. I just don't agree with the idea that Harry shouldn't leave her alone. I don't believe that he would leave her, for even a second, if he thought she was in danger. He clearly loves her more than anything. I don't think that is what anyone was saying though |
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Post by maybe on May 15, 2019 13:34:15 GMT -6
It always takes forever for Charles and Camilla to see the new babies. They did the same thing with all the Cambridge kids from what I recall. So, Charles isn’t that into babies. I guess we have always known that. |
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Post by auburn on May 15, 2019 13:40:02 GMT -6
I wouldn’t trust a soul given what they have been through and the intense curiosity on this child. Harry should definitely be staying home more. , This is the post I was responding to before. Maybe I misunderstood. Why should Harry "definitely be staying home more"? |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 15, 2019 13:42:30 GMT -6
It always takes forever for Charles and Camilla to see the new babies. They did the same thing with all the Cambridge kids from what I recall. So, Charles isn’t that into babies. I guess we have always known that. I always find it so weird how long it takes him. Not being into babies definitely explains it. All newborns look essentially the same anyway. Squishy. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 15, 2019 13:42:58 GMT -6
Ladybug realness 😂😂😂
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 13:47:35 GMT -6
I wouldn’t trust a soul given what they have been through and the intense curiosity on this child. Harry should definitely be staying home more. , This is the post I was responding to before. Maybe I misunderstood. Why should Harry "definitely be staying home more"? staying home more not never leaving the house. |
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Post by maybe on May 15, 2019 13:57:32 GMT -6
angelashly , This is the post I was responding to before. Maybe I misunderstood. Why should Harry "definitely be staying home more"? staying home more not never leaving the house. Yes, for some reason they took my comment to be he needs to be locked up at home. I didn’t even say he shouldn’t be working at all. Good grief. |
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Post by kmkd on May 15, 2019 13:59:15 GMT -6
Also the Doria as “lifesaver”/nanny is triggering me and unhealthy issues I have about older black women as nanny/caregiver. This is a personal thing so don’t mean to hash it out here just mentioning that the optics of it all bother me because it’s evoking more than just doting grandma to me. I said this before, but I just don’t think any grandmother should have to play that role when the family has the means to hire help. Let her enjoy being a grandma, and let someone else be “indispensable.” Your point is extra well taken. |
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 14:04:06 GMT -6
staying home more not never leaving the house. Yes, for some reason they took my comment to be he needs to be locked up at home. I didn’t even say he shouldn’t be working at all. Good grief. I got what you were saying. Also I agree with you jaidit, that many countries don't have paternity leave which is why I was hoping a modern royal or male would take that sentiment and push it. And like ArielMermaid, said even Will took time off for the kids and he is going to be King. At the same time I understand that Harry is very passionate about his causes and I fully believe that Meghan is too and so 100% on board with his trips and engagement so really it is a whatever works for your family. |
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Post by maybe on May 15, 2019 14:11:25 GMT -6
When I made the original comment about him taking a paternity leave that was more of a political stance and modeling things for the future. The Invictus games are a special case in any scenario that I would not have wanted him to miss.
One of the organizations he visited yesterday is where a former colleague of mine works so it’s in London. She posted about the event on LinkedIn and it wasn’t a time-bound special event, he was just visiting as it matched with his theme of the day. Once I saw they had little outside help, Doria is indispensable, and he is spending the day doing local stuff that can wait, then I thought that he should at least prune back a bit, more so for Doria. But, if Meghan is cool with it so be it. I hope they are doing it because they as a couple really want to and not because they don’t want a story about her being a demanding new mom who won’t let him do anything because the British tabs would find a way to make that about her.
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Post by beepers on May 15, 2019 14:14:34 GMT -6
It took my IL’s like a month to come visit us after our kid was born. I’m not scandalized that Charles hasn’t met Archie yet.
#anecdote
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Post by maybe on May 15, 2019 14:19:10 GMT -6
It took my IL’s like a month to come visit us after our kid was born. I’m not scandalized that Charles hasn’t met Archie yet. #anecdote Are your ILs local? |
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Post by emma on May 15, 2019 14:25:40 GMT -6
Yes, for some reason they took my comment to be he needs to be locked up at home. I didn’t even say he shouldn’t be working at all. Good grief. I got what you were saying. Also I agree with you jaidit , that many countries don't have paternity leave which is why I was hoping a modern royal or male would take that sentiment and push it. And like ArielMermaid , said even Will took time off for the kids and he is going to be King. At the same time I understand that Harry is very passionate about his causes and I fully believe that Meghan is too and so 100% on board with his trips and engagement so really it is a whatever works for your family. but when Will took leave for George it was because he was actively working for the RAF Search and Rescue. He wasn't doing a day here and a day there with charities like Harry is now. And with Charlotte maybe Kate needed the help with the transition from 1 to 2 and George was a handful by all accounts. I'd guess that all this was worked out well in advance and if Meghan wanted Harry home i think he'd do it because he's head over heels for her. |
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Post by ripper on May 15, 2019 14:29:43 GMT -6
staying home more not never leaving the house. Yes, for some reason they took my comment to be he needs to be locked up at home. I didn’t even say he shouldn’t be working at all. Good grief. Well, I admit, this clarification clarifies nothing for me. |
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Post by maybe on May 15, 2019 14:36:39 GMT -6
Yes, for some reason they took my comment to be he needs to be locked up at home. I didn’t even say he shouldn’t be working at all. Good grief. Well, I admit, this clarification clarifies nothing for me. Fuck off. |
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Post by angelashly on May 15, 2019 14:42:58 GMT -6
I got what you were saying. Also I agree with you jaidit , that many countries don't have paternity leave which is why I was hoping a modern royal or male would take that sentiment and push it. And like ArielMermaid , said even Will took time off for the kids and he is going to be King. At the same time I understand that Harry is very passionate about his causes and I fully believe that Meghan is too and so 100% on board with his trips and engagement so really it is a whatever works for your family. but when Will took leave for George it was because he was actively working for the RAF Search and Rescue. He wasn't doing a day here and a day there with charities like Harry is now. And with Charlotte maybe Kate needed the help with the transition from 1 to 2 and George was a handful by all accounts. I'd guess that all this was worked out well in advance and if Meghan wanted Harry home i think he'd do it because he's head over heels for her. I agree, but I still hoped that he would do it and show men that it is ok to push for paternity leave. I understand he doesn't have the typical job and that it is obviously working for them and he has no obligation to push the message. |
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Post by ripper on May 15, 2019 14:44:58 GMT -6
You know when you are having a conversation with someone or a bunch of people and someone says "fuck off" out of absolutely nowhere and then you have a whole range of Private Thoughts?
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Post by ripper on May 15, 2019 14:48:45 GMT -6
but when Will took leave for George it was because he was actively working for the RAF Search and Rescue. He wasn't doing a day here and a day there with charities like Harry is now. And with Charlotte maybe Kate needed the help with the transition from 1 to 2 and George was a handful by all accounts. I'd guess that all this was worked out well in advance and if Meghan wanted Harry home i think he'd do it because he's head over heels for her. I agree, but I still hoped that he would do it and show men that it is ok to push for paternity leave. I understand he doesn't have the typical job and that it is obviously working for them and he has no obligation to push the message. Paternity leave doesn't have to be immediately. Everyone is there is the beginning. Friends, family, neighbours. People drop in, drop by, give you help in a variety of ways (obv, this is a slightly different situation for the duke and duchess, but still pertains to them in their unique way). I'm reminded of a coworker who took a 3 month pat leave at the end of the mat leave b/c he and his wife decided it would be more useful that way. I don't pretend to know H&M's plans, but I think it would be cool if by doing a slightly different pat leave he might end up changing the ideal in more ways than one. |
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