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Post by jorkzy on Mar 22, 2019 8:53:23 GMT -6
She says the plastic surgery benefits her three kids because she has more energy for them now... It always strikes me as odd when people get plastic surgery and then are like "now that I have bigger boobs I can go out more!" or "I'm a better mom because I had liposuction!" Seems you've got some deeper issues there, Susan. I mean- I could see it if you were super self conscious about something to do with your body and fixing it gave you the confidence to do more things. And I guess more self confidence could translate to better parenting. 🤷♀️ |
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Post by Nymeria on Mar 22, 2019 9:43:51 GMT -6
I feel like she compared herself to MM because MM is in the news a lot right now and saying she looks similar to her got this mom a bunch of attention. Good for her if she feels more comfortable in her own skin now, but lol to looking like MM.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Mar 22, 2019 9:55:40 GMT -6
I get the love for Diana. She was the first royal to break boundaries and seem accessible to the people. Hugging HIV positive people, walking through fields of land mines, etc. She brought her kids to school and tried to give them a normal childhood. For what it’s worth, I don’t think she had the possibility of a loving marriage with Charles and I don’t think anyone expected her to remain loyal to him when he was openly cheating on her 2 years into their marriage. I'm on this page as well. It also just doesn't sit well with me to throw praise at Camilla or Charles for a marriage and life that comes off as their reward for all of their indiscretions, which hurt many people, including Diana. It especially rankles when I think Diana was a mere twenty years old and C/C were both in their early thirties and knew better when Diana and Charles married and should have called it quits when she said "I do." It was ridiculous and antiquated as hell that Charles wasn't allowed to marry Camilla all those years ago, but he and she both knew the score and she married someone else as did he. But they were both classic cake-eaters and kept the affair going (the emotional affair never ended with the physical affair resuming two years later) all through their marriages and I find it unsettling to praise adulterers. Diana was certainly no saint but when I take into account how very, very young she was and how totally unequipped anyone is to handle the realization that their spouse is a lying, cheating ass, let alone someone that young, I'll always side with her. Yes, she cheated as well and that was wrong, but quite honestly, from the moment C/C resumed their physical affair, her marriage to Charles was over but for the paperwork anyway. I'm sure my view is colored by my childhood (although I'd like to think cheating is universally despised) with my father leaving my mother for the woman he'd been cheating with for a few years. They later married and just celebrated their 30th anniversary and while I'm not going to throw their cheating in their face or anything all these years later, I'm not going to pretend they didn't royally (pun intended) fuck up a lot of lives with their selfish decisions and fist-pump their milestone achievement. |
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Post by ouijabored on Mar 22, 2019 10:04:47 GMT -6
I think it sounds like she handled her divorce very badly by oversharing with her kids too. It sounds like it really messed up their relationship with their father for many years. To be fair to her though, that may have been before it was "common knowledge" that you're not supposed to do that, idk. I don't know. It's not like they were never going to find out. Maybe she handled it badly, but how else do you handle it? Wait until they stumble across it themselves and then try to explain? Or get in front of it? It's a lose lose situation. Oh according to her biographers, she made William her confidant at a young age and told him things about his father and their relationship that we would consider inappropriate to do today. I'm not sure if that was the case back then. |
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Post by auburn on Mar 22, 2019 11:33:32 GMT -6
I get the love for Diana. She was the first royal to break boundaries and seem accessible to the people. Hugging HIV positive people, walking through fields of land mines, etc. She brought her kids to school and tried to give them a normal childhood. For what it’s worth, I don’t think she had the possibility of a loving marriage with Charles and I don’t think anyone expected her to remain loyal to him when he was openly cheating on her 2 years into their marriage. I'm on this page as well. It also just doesn't sit well with me to throw praise at Camilla or Charles for a marriage and life that comes off as their reward for all of their indiscretions, which hurt many people, including Diana. It especially rankles when I think Diana was a mere twenty years old and C/C were both in their early thirties and knew better when Diana and Charles married and should have called it quits when she said "I do." It was ridiculous and antiquated as hell that Charles wasn't allowed to marry Camilla all those years ago, but he and she both knew the score and she married someone else as did he. But they were both classic cake-eaters and kept the affair going (the emotional affair never ended with the physical affair resuming two years later) all through their marriages and I find it unsettling to praise adulterers. Diana was certainly no saint but when I take into account how very, very young she was and how totally unequipped anyone is to handle the realization that their spouse is a lying, cheating ass, let alone someone that young, I'll always side with her. Yes, she cheated as well and that was wrong, but quite honestly, from the moment C/C resumed their physical affair, her marriage to Charles was over but for the paperwork anyway. I'm sure my view is colored by my childhood (although I'd like to think cheating is universally despised) with my father leaving my mother for the woman he'd been cheating with for a few years. They later married and just celebrated their 30th anniversary and while I'm not going to throw their cheating in their face or anything all these years later, I'm not going to pretend they didn't royally (pun intended) fuck up a lot of lives with their selfish decisions and fist-pump their milestone achievement. Alllllll of this. They stayed with Camilla and her husband on part of their honeymoon. You think Charles and Camilla didn’t have sex? Because I do. |
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Post by Yogurt on Mar 22, 2019 11:48:38 GMT -6
All these perspectives are making me rethink my enjoyment of Camilla. I hate cheating but didn't know the whole back story of the charles/diana/camilla situation. I'm a new to the royals.
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Post by Yogurt on Mar 22, 2019 11:50:03 GMT -6
I'm on this page as well. It also just doesn't sit well with me to throw praise at Camilla or Charles for a marriage and life that comes off as their reward for all of their indiscretions, which hurt many people, including Diana. It especially rankles when I think Diana was a mere twenty years old and C/C were both in their early thirties and knew better when Diana and Charles married and should have called it quits when she said "I do." It was ridiculous and antiquated as hell that Charles wasn't allowed to marry Camilla all those years ago, but he and she both knew the score and she married someone else as did he. But they were both classic cake-eaters and kept the affair going (the emotional affair never ended with the physical affair resuming two years later) all through their marriages and I find it unsettling to praise adulterers. Diana was certainly no saint but when I take into account how very, very young she was and how totally unequipped anyone is to handle the realization that their spouse is a lying, cheating ass, let alone someone that young, I'll always side with her. Yes, she cheated as well and that was wrong, but quite honestly, from the moment C/C resumed their physical affair, her marriage to Charles was over but for the paperwork anyway. I'm sure my view is colored by my childhood (although I'd like to think cheating is universally despised) with my father leaving my mother for the woman he'd been cheating with for a few years. They later married and just celebrated their 30th anniversary and while I'm not going to throw their cheating in their face or anything all these years later, I'm not going to pretend they didn't royally (pun intended) fuck up a lot of lives with their selfish decisions and fist-pump their milestone achievement. Alllllll of this. They stayed with Camilla and her husband on part of their honeymoon. You think Charles and Camilla didn’t have sex? Because I do. Oh that's terrible! Jesus |
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Post by emma on Mar 22, 2019 12:14:17 GMT -6
I don’t think Diana was as sweet and innocent as people make out. Charles made it very known that he was in love with Camila and Diana was an arranged backup plan. She didn’t go into it thinking it was some magical love affair. It was a miserable situation for everyone.
Diana did amazing charitable work, it was truly inspirational but I’m not putting her on a pedestal of sweet innocent perfection.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Mar 22, 2019 12:15:22 GMT -6
I'm on this page as well. It also just doesn't sit well with me to throw praise at Camilla or Charles for a marriage and life that comes off as their reward for all of their indiscretions, which hurt many people, including Diana. It especially rankles when I think Diana was a mere twenty years old and C/C were both in their early thirties and knew better when Diana and Charles married and should have called it quits when she said "I do." It was ridiculous and antiquated as hell that Charles wasn't allowed to marry Camilla all those years ago, but he and she both knew the score and she married someone else as did he. But they were both classic cake-eaters and kept the affair going (the emotional affair never ended with the physical affair resuming two years later) all through their marriages and I find it unsettling to praise adulterers. Diana was certainly no saint but when I take into account how very, very young she was and how totally unequipped anyone is to handle the realization that their spouse is a lying, cheating ass, let alone someone that young, I'll always side with her. Yes, she cheated as well and that was wrong, but quite honestly, from the moment C/C resumed their physical affair, her marriage to Charles was over but for the paperwork anyway. I'm sure my view is colored by my childhood (although I'd like to think cheating is universally despised) with my father leaving my mother for the woman he'd been cheating with for a few years. They later married and just celebrated their 30th anniversary and while I'm not going to throw their cheating in their face or anything all these years later, I'm not going to pretend they didn't royally (pun intended) fuck up a lot of lives with their selfish decisions and fist-pump their milestone achievement. Alllllll of this. They stayed with Camilla and her husband on part of their honeymoon. You think Charles and Camilla didn’t have sex? Because I do. I had thought the physical part didn't resume until a few years after Charles married Diana but nothing would surprise me about this pair. I mean, Charles wore cufflinks Camilla gave him on the day of his wedding to Diana and don't get me started on him carrying around a pair of her panties for years and then there are those "lovely" phone conversations including the gem about how Charles wished he could be Camilla's tampon. The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off that not only is she Princess, she'll very likely be Queen (consort but Queen nonetheless). Fuck that. |
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Post by silverspoon on Mar 22, 2019 12:22:51 GMT -6
I don’t think Diana was as sweet and innocent as people make out. Charles made it very known that he was in love with Camila and Diana was an arranged backup plan. She didn’t go into it thinking it was some magical love affair. It was a miserable situation for everyone. Diana did amazing charitable work, it was truly inspirational but I’m not putting her on a pedestal of sweet innocent perfection. Diana was 20 and Charles and Camilla were in their 30s. I genuinely do not believe Diana really understood the adult relationships she was being thrust into. |
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Post by emma on Mar 22, 2019 12:27:26 GMT -6
I don’t think Diana was as sweet and innocent as people make out. Charles made it very known that he was in love with Camila and Diana was an arranged backup plan. She didn’t go into it thinking it was some magical love affair. It was a miserable situation for everyone. Diana did amazing charitable work, it was truly inspirational but I’m not putting her on a pedestal of sweet innocent perfection. Diana was 20 and Charles and Camilla were in their 30s. I genuinely do not believe Diana really understood the adult relationships she was being thrust into. Maybe but she wasn’t a child. A 20 yo can perfectly understand being told I’m in love with someone else. Maybe at 20 she didn’t comprehend what a loveless marriage would be like but 🤷♀️, she knew he didn’t want her |
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Post by emma on Mar 22, 2019 12:47:01 GMT -6
Maybe but she wasn’t a child. A 20 yo can perfectly understand being told I’m in love with someone else. Maybe at 20 she didn’t comprehend what a loveless marriage would be like but 🤷♀️, she knew he didn’t want her Did this happen? Did Charles actually lay it out like that for Diana? "Hey, do you want to marry me and become future Queen of England? I'm being forced to ask you because you're a virgin. But you should know that I'm in love with Camilla and we're going to continue banging." (Honest question, I don't know much about this topic.) It was fairly public knowledge that he wanted to marry Camila. And Diana was not a commoner, she grew up in the inner circle. I have sympathy for Diana, I really do but I’m not on the “fuck Camila the scandalous whorebag” train. I think she got screwed over too by the whole thing |
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Post by rs4eva on Mar 22, 2019 12:57:56 GMT -6
Charles, Diana, and Camilla are all just people. They make mistakes, do some shitty things to each other, but also fall in love and love their kids and, IMO, want to be good people. It’s okay to not like what they all did to each other and still be happy that their is happiness in their lives again. I get that Diana is dead, but she has started to find happiness too before her death.
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Post by lolacachia on Mar 22, 2019 13:02:11 GMT -6
I get the love for Diana. She was the first royal to break boundaries and seem accessible to the people. Hugging HIV positive people, walking through fields of land mines, etc. She brought her kids to school and tried to give them a normal childhood. For what it’s worth, I don’t think she had the possibility of a loving marriage with Charles and I don’t think anyone expected her to remain loyal to him when he was openly cheating on her 2 years into their marriage. I'm on this page as well. It also just doesn't sit well with me to throw praise at Camilla or Charles for a marriage and life that comes off as their reward for all of their indiscretions, which hurt many people, including Diana. It especially rankles when I think Diana was a mere twenty years old and C/C were both in their early thirties and knew better when Diana and Charles married and should have called it quits when she said "I do." It was ridiculous and antiquated as hell that Charles wasn't allowed to marry Camilla all those years ago, but he and she both knew the score and she married someone else as did he. But they were both classic cake-eaters and kept the affair going (the emotional affair never ended with the physical affair resuming two years later) all through their marriages and I find it unsettling to praise adulterers. Diana was certainly no saint but when I take into account how very, very young she was and how totally unequipped anyone is to handle the realization that their spouse is a lying, cheating ass, let alone someone that young, I'll always side with her. Yes, she cheated as well and that was wrong, but quite honestly, from the moment C/C resumed their physical affair, her marriage to Charles was over but for the paperwork anyway. I'm sure my view is colored by my childhood (although I'd like to think cheating is universally despised) with my father leaving my mother for the woman he'd been cheating with for a few years. They later married and just celebrated their 30th anniversary and while I'm not going to throw their cheating in their face or anything all these years later, I'm not going to pretend they didn't royally (pun intended) fuck up a lot of lives with their selfish decisions and fist-pump their milestone achievement. This is almost exactly where I land. I think Diana thought she was getting a fairy tale and then got a rude awakening. At that point quite frankly I don't blame her for looking for affection elsewhere. Does it suck that C/C couldn't marry from the beginning? Sure it's sad. But boo fucking hoo. Those are the rules and your little rich asses will carry on with life. |
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Post by lolacachia on Mar 22, 2019 13:05:03 GMT -6
Maybe but she wasn’t a child. A 20 yo can perfectly understand being told I’m in love with someone else. Maybe at 20 she didn’t comprehend what a loveless marriage would be like but 🤷♀️, she knew he didn’t want her Did this happen? Did Charles actually lay it out like that for Diana? "Hey, do you want to marry me and become future Queen of England? I'm being forced to ask you because you're a virgin. But you should know that I'm in love with Camilla and we're going to continue banging." (Honest question, I don't know much about this topic.) From the documentaries and stuff I have seen, she seemed like a young girl in love in the beginning, and you could see as time went on, the light in her eyes dimmed when discussing her marriage to Charles. It was rather sad. |
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Post by betches on Mar 22, 2019 13:27:55 GMT -6
Also, in my research (lol), it appears Clarence House has stated that Camilla will become princess consort (not queen) when Charles becomes king. I feel like there was a statement on their website that said this for a while but it’s been removed which prompted speculation they were trying to make her Queen |
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Post by Bookshelves on Mar 22, 2019 13:38:38 GMT -6
Charles, Diana, and Camilla are all just people. They make mistakes, do some shitty things to each other, but also fall in love and love their kids and, IMO, want to be good people. It’s okay to not like what they all did to each other and still be happy that their is happiness in their lives again. I get that Diana is dead, but she has started to find happiness too before her death. Nope, you have to pick a side!! (j/k, I agree) |
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 22, 2019 14:15:19 GMT -6
I've been lurking here, and reading this page I've learned a lot lol. So is the marrying a virgin thing outdated now? That seems so icky. Was that also expected for William when he met Kate? I assume Harry didn't have the same rule either way because he wasn't the heir.
Is that really why Charles couldn't be with Camilla? How did that go anyways, did they date even though they were told they could never marry or were they blindsided?
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Post by enchanted on Mar 22, 2019 14:43:01 GMT -6
I've been lurking here, and reading this page I've learned a lot lol. So is the marrying a virgin thing outdated now? That seems so icky. Was that also expected for William when he met Kate? I assume Harry didn't have the same rule either way because he wasn't the heir. Is that really why Charles couldn't be with Camilla? How did that go anyways, did they date even though they were told they could never marry or were they blindsided? William and Kate lived together before their wedding, if I'm remembering correctly. |
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Post by enchanted on Mar 22, 2019 14:49:06 GMT -6
I've been lurking here, and reading this page I've learned a lot lol. So is the marrying a virgin thing outdated now? That seems so icky. Was that also expected for William when he met Kate? I assume Harry didn't have the same rule either way because he wasn't the heir. Is that really why Charles couldn't be with Camilla? How did that go anyways, did they date even though they were told they could never marry or were they blindsided? William and Kate lived together before their wedding, if I'm remembering correctly. As for Charles and Camilla, I'm sure he was told, but it may not have been until after they were dating. I don't really know the answer to that one. |
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 22, 2019 14:50:20 GMT -6
enchanted interesting. I guess I also wonder why didn't she just lie and say she was a virgin? How would they even know lol
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Post by whatsit on Mar 22, 2019 14:52:42 GMT -6
enchanted interesting. I guess I also wonder why didn't she just lie and say she was a virgin? How would they even know lol I think it was pretty well know she was with a bunch of men before C/C got together, so no lying. |
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 22, 2019 14:53:26 GMT -6
enchanted interesting. I guess I also wonder why didn't she just lie and say she was a virgin? How would they even know lol I think it was pretty well know she was with a bunch of men before C/C got together, so no lying. Ah, gotcha lol |
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Post by auburn on Mar 22, 2019 15:12:35 GMT -6
enchanted interesting. I guess I also wonder why didn't she just lie and say she was a virgin? How would they even know lol I think it was pretty well know she was with a bunch of men before C/C got together, so no lying. They also went on vacation together so it was assumed. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on Mar 22, 2019 16:25:33 GMT -6
enchanted interesting. I guess I also wonder why didn't she just lie and say she was a virgin? How would they even know lol Camila had a serious boyfriend before Charles so it was assumed she was not “pure” therefore not a suitable wife for the future sovereign. |
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Post by richard on Mar 22, 2019 20:17:43 GMT -6
Alllllll of this. They stayed with Camilla and her husband on part of their honeymoon. You think Charles and Camilla didn’t have sex? Because I do. The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off that not only is she Princess, she'll very likely be Queen (consort but Queen nonetheless). Fuck that. I find this bizarre. What does her potential title have to do with anything? |
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Post by ArielMermaid on Mar 22, 2019 20:50:45 GMT -6
The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off that not only is she Princess, she'll very likely be Queen (consort but Queen nonetheless). Fuck that. I find this bizarre. What does her potential title have to do with anything? Of all the fuckery the monarchy has ever had I don’t think they’ve ever denied the wife of the sovereign the title of Queen 🤷♀️ And there has been a lot of fuckery. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on Mar 22, 2019 20:51:37 GMT -6
On April 4th we get a super rare father/sons engagement. Charles, Wills, and Harry will all attend the global premiere of Sir David Attenborough’s Our Planet Netflix documentary.
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Post by mrsweasley on Mar 22, 2019 22:10:50 GMT -6
I find this bizarre. What does her potential title have to do with anything? Of all the fuckery the monarchy has ever had I don’t think they’ve ever denied the wife of the sovereign the title of Queen 🤷♀️ And there has been a lot of fuckery. QEII didn't even make Phillip a Prince right away 🤷♀️ Same with Prince Albert. It took Victoria 17 years to make Albert Prince Consort. She actually wanted to make him King Consort though and Parliament wouldn't approve it. |
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Post by Radley on Mar 23, 2019 0:31:32 GMT -6
What happened to my avatar??? Where is my little Bitmoji? Why do I have a llama?? Well this is a mystery. I changed my password although I can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone would just change my profile picture. I’m totally keeping the llama now though. |
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