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Post by cnf on Jan 18, 2019 20:14:22 GMT -6
At least we'll hear from Cohen himself in a couple of weeks, but still. This is very frustrating. It was such a glimmer of hope and it feels like it was ripped away. I hope the house still investigates it. Ugh. I don't know how much more I can take. He’s not going to say anything about mueller’s investigation though I know. I'm hoping someone might ask about the BuzzFeed article maybe. Not that it'll prove anything.
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Post by richard on Jan 18, 2019 20:15:38 GMT -6
So based on all this, this is my guess:
Some emails/texts exist that state something about Trump directing Cohen to lie. SDNY got copies of them. Someone from SDNY leaked that to BuzzFeed. Mueller's office has more info or context on the emails/text that SDNY doesn't have (like maybe the person who sent the email later told Mueller that they were joking around or there was some other indication that you can't take the emails/texts at face value for whatever reason).
Buzzfeed still holds that they saw documents and stand by their source. But my guess is their source was missing other information.
TL/DR. Fucking fuck.
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Post by catspajamas on Jan 18, 2019 20:22:17 GMT -6
I am in a glass case of emotion.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 18, 2019 20:22:20 GMT -6
I still think the sources were SDNY so I'm not verklempt over the Mueller statement
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 18, 2019 20:23:35 GMT -6
dc2londonDid you see they did an emergency pod?
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 18, 2019 20:26:17 GMT -6
I still think the sources were SDNY so I'm not verklempt over the Mueller statement I agree. Also didn’t some of this come from the sentencing agreement?
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Post by dc2london on Jan 18, 2019 20:27:01 GMT -6
dc2londonDid you see they did an emergency pod? I saw Jon's tweet and basically jumped into his lap. THANK YOU , though, if I hadn't caught that you would be saving my sanity
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Post by redbears on Jan 18, 2019 20:32:28 GMT -6
Didn’t bezzfeed tell fox or someone they didn’t actually see the sources their sources referenced???!?
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Post by richard on Jan 18, 2019 20:41:20 GMT -6
Didn’t bezzfeed tell fox or someone they didn’t actually see the sources their sources referenced???!? Yeah, that is weird. I think one of them told MSNBC that he did and one told CNN that he didn't. I guess that could be just a case of one person working with a source and the other not? IDK.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jan 18, 2019 20:44:50 GMT -6
I don’t know if you guys heard, but racism is over: Good job, America! Oh, wait... Jeff Jacoby is an asshat. When I lived in Massachusetts and read the Globe regularly he was the frequent cause of rage strokes.
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Post by richard on Jan 18, 2019 20:49:29 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2019 21:06:20 GMT -6
dc2londonDid you see they did an emergency pod? I saw Jon's tweet and basically jumped into his lap. THANK YOU , though, if I hadn't caught that you would be saving my sanity But was the emergency pod before this latest news? 🤣
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Post by notblanche on Jan 18, 2019 21:06:43 GMT -6
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jan 18, 2019 21:09:00 GMT -6
I'm sorry about my inflammatory post earlier about the shut down. I'm sick and having one of those days where you question your every parenting choice. That's no excuse for dredging up anxiety in the furloughed feds who post here.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 18, 2019 21:25:50 GMT -6
I saw Jon's tweet and basically jumped into his lap. THANK YOU , though, if I hadn't caught that you would be saving my sanity But was the emergency pod before this latest news? 🤣 😂 At this point they could broadcast 24/7 and STILL behind They brought up some calming points for me even with the latest. Like the fact 45 is an unnamed co-conspirator
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2019 21:57:03 GMT -6
I'm sorry about my inflammatory post earlier about the shut down. I'm sick and having one of those days where you question your every parenting choice. That's no excuse for dredging up anxiety in the furloughed feds who post here. I hope you feel better and have a better day tomorrow. Get some rest, friend. It’s been one of those days.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2019 21:57:54 GMT -6
🤣😳😱
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Post by blurnette989 on Jan 18, 2019 22:54:40 GMT -6
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Post by crimsonandclover on Jan 18, 2019 23:59:12 GMT -6
Right. So I wonder if pence really was going to be taken down, who do you think they would appoint to become the next gop pres? How does that work? Is there a congressional vote or anything? Well what they would do is make sure Trump and Pence don't go down st the same time
I was reading to see if someone else realized this There's no way they would oust both Trump and Pence at the same time. *If* they do it, then they will first get rid of Trump, Pence will become Pres and appoint and VP, and then *if* they have enough on Pence (which I highly doubt, honestly, and the GOP leadership likes him a lot more than they like Trump), then whoever he appointed as VP will become Pres.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Jan 19, 2019 0:08:29 GMT -6
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Post by PandaWatch on Jan 19, 2019 6:09:44 GMT -6
This had me laffing
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Post by dc2london on Jan 19, 2019 6:47:23 GMT -6
Well what they would do is make sure Trump and Pence don't go down st the same time
I was reading to see if someone else realized this There's no way they would oust both Trump and Pence at the same time. *If* they do it, then they will first get rid of Trump, Pence will become Pres and appoint and VP, and then *if* they have enough on Pence (which I highly doubt, honestly, and the GOP leadership likes him a lot more than they like Trump), then whoever he appointed as VP will become Pres. I have been thinking about how this could shape the primaries, too. We need a different candidate to beat Pence from one who beats Trump.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 19, 2019 7:44:24 GMT -6
I really think the SC response to the Buzzfeed story is just to shut down accusations that they were the leak.I've read the statement about 200 times and it's so narrow and deliberate. There's ZERO dispute about the story itself, just a component of the supporting documents
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Post by catspajamas on Jan 19, 2019 8:23:55 GMT -6
I really think the SC response to the Buzzfeed story is just to shut down accusations that they were the leak.I've read the statement about 200 times and it's so narrow and deliberate. There's ZERO dispute about the story itself, just a component of the supporting documents I agree. MH and I were poring over every single word last night and arrived at the same conclusion. I am feeling a little more hopeful this morning!
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Post by dc2london on Jan 19, 2019 9:27:14 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jan 19, 2019 9:37:48 GMT -6
I really think the SC response to the Buzzfeed story is just to shut down accusations that they were the leak.I've read the statement about 200 times and it's so narrow and deliberate. There's ZERO dispute about the story itself, just a component of the supporting documents Agreed. I have also read it a million and one times.
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Post by joelies on Jan 19, 2019 9:42:45 GMT -6
Amazing, for so many reasons.
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Post by mb3 on Jan 19, 2019 10:06:43 GMT -6
CNN is saying 45 is expected to make a proposal to reopen the government today during his speech. It won’t give up the wall but will offer “other concessions”. Any thoughts on what those would be?
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Post by athn64 on Jan 19, 2019 10:19:49 GMT -6
CNN is saying 45 is expected to make a proposal to reopen the government today during his speech. It won’t give up the wall but will offer “other concessions”. Any thoughts on what those would be? I assuming they will be fake concessions like the steel vs concrete thing. But again, Dems aren't going to give in on the wall.
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Post by donnamoss on Jan 19, 2019 10:40:13 GMT -6
I saw a report that said it was a path for the Dreamers.
I feel really conflicted in this. I don’t want a wall but if we can get a citizenship path...
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