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Post by blurnette989 on Jan 3, 2019 9:46:34 GMT -6
Martin O'Malley has stated he is not running and endorsed Beto.
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Post by notblanche on Jan 3, 2019 9:48:49 GMT -6
I've always gotten the inkling Mark Warner would run for POTUS someday and his Senate term will be up. Hm. I don't think so. His wife is a very private person and I think she would be firmly opposed to being First Lady. I could be wrong though! I'd rather not see him run tbh.
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Post by notblanche on Jan 3, 2019 9:49:28 GMT -6
Martin O'Malley has stated he is not running and endorsed Beto. I wish he'd come out in a year other than 2016.I wanted to learn more.
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Post by enchanted on Jan 3, 2019 10:04:43 GMT -6
Is this for real?
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Post by enchanted on Jan 3, 2019 10:14:25 GMT -6
Holy fuck to 45's last tweet about Warren.
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Post by cakewench on Jan 3, 2019 10:18:29 GMT -6
Holy fuck to 45's last tweet about Warren. I looked. I shouldn't have. JFC.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 3, 2019 12:49:00 GMT -6
I have been really digging all of the full-of-attitude portraits of Dems. In one hundred years, those images will be taught in American history class and kids will be inspired by the fire in their eyes.
Assuming the flaming orange Cheeto doesn’t burn our country down.
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Post by Bookshelves on Jan 3, 2019 20:39:47 GMT -6
misspatty I would LOVE Mayor Pete to win the Indiana Governor race. I’m just worried our state is too red to let that happen. But if anyone can, he can. Strangely enough, I think he could've beaten Pence. But Holcomb hasn't pissed anyone off enough for me to think he wont get reelected easily. I doubt he'd run if the polling numbers were terrible, though. I guess we'll see! I agree that he might have beaten Pence, but I'd be really, really surprised if he could beat Holcomb in the current climate.
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Post by richard on Jan 4, 2019 19:27:00 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Jan 7, 2019 9:12:17 GMT -6
Biden is close to deciding reportedly. He’s running. I just know it.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 7, 2019 9:20:32 GMT -6
Biden is close to deciding reportedly. He’s running. I just know it. His announcing is going to prevent other candidates from jumping in I think.
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Post by byjove on Jan 7, 2019 10:50:21 GMT -6
I would much rather Biden than Bernie.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 7, 2019 10:53:09 GMT -6
I would much rather Biden than Bernie. Agreed. I guess it’s too optimistic to just wish the old white man brigade sit this one out. 😂
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Post by athn64 on Jan 7, 2019 11:04:37 GMT -6
I would much rather Biden than Bernie. I'm here too. But we have so many other kick ass choices. Can't we have one of them?
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Post by jaygee on Jan 7, 2019 14:10:07 GMT -6
Here’s a good keeping it real thread in Biden.
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Post by enginerd on Jan 8, 2019 23:32:57 GMT -6
I would much rather Biden than Bernie. Agreed. I guess it’s too optimistic to just wish the old white man brigade sit this one out. 😂 So disclaimer, I don’t go here, I just lurk here to keep myself sane. And I truly thank you for that, very very much. But I worry that general America (not here, duh) isn’t ready for a woman as #1. I absolutely LOVE the idea of Kamala with just about anyone, but I also remember that 4 years ago Hillary was this cheeky meme of a woman in sunglasses texting that idiot Bros didn’t hate, and going through this process will make Warren (who lots already don’t love after the DNA stuff) look just as “bad” to people who aren’t affected by the current garbage enough to GAF. Like I voted for Hillary without reservation and would vote for a literal pile of steaming shit over trumplestiltskin, but the only thing that really, truly, matters is if can they beat the orange troll in the general. Because if not I truly feel like we are fucked for the rest of our lives, RGB can’t hold on forever and 2020 is not a race we can afford to lose. Also, HI. Sorry if the above is a downer, I just feel like we are living in an alternate reality where I keep waiting for the commercial break that isn’t coming. Feel free to ignore the rambling of a crazy lady.
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Post by sweetpea on Jan 9, 2019 0:34:42 GMT -6
Agreed. I guess it’s too optimistic to just wish the old white man brigade sit this one out. 😂 So disclaimer, I don’t go here, I just lurk here to keep myself sane. And I truly thank you for that, very very much. But I worry that general America (not here, duh) isn’t ready for a woman as #1. I absolutely LOVE the idea of Kamala with just about anyone, but I also remember that 4 years ago Hillary was this cheeky meme of a woman in sunglasses texting that idiot Bros didn’t hate, and going through this process will make Warren (who lots already don’t love after the DNA stuff) look just as “bad” to people who aren’t affected by the current garbage enough to GAF. Like I voted for Hillary without reservation and would vote for a literal pile of steaming shit over trumplestiltskin, but the only thing that really, truly, matters is if can they beat the orange troll in the general. Because if not I truly feel like we are fucked for the rest of our lives, RGB can’t hold on forever and 2020 is not a race we can afford to lose. Also, HI. Sorry if the above is a downer, I just feel like we are living in an alternate reality where I keep waiting for the commercial break that isn’t coming. Feel free to ignore the rambling of a crazy lady. I told my husband that while I would love Kamala, I don’t think the red states are ready for her. She’s a woman and she’s black - she’s what they hated about Hillary and Obama wrapped in one. And right now we have to make sure it’s someone that can beat orangey. This hopefully is the cynic talking Stay; I normally just read and learn from these women. They are very welcoming
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Post by jaygee on Jan 9, 2019 1:14:55 GMT -6
Agreed. I guess it’s too optimistic to just wish the old white man brigade sit this one out. 😂 So disclaimer, I don’t go here, I just lurk here to keep myself sane. And I truly thank you for that, very very much. But I worry that general America (not here, duh) isn’t ready for a woman as #1. I absolutely LOVE the idea of Kamala with just about anyone, but I also remember that 4 years ago Hillary was this cheeky meme of a woman in sunglasses texting that idiot Bros didn’t hate, and going through this process will make Warren (who lots already don’t love after the DNA stuff) look just as “bad” to people who aren’t affected by the current garbage enough to GAF. Like I voted for Hillary without reservation and would vote for a literal pile of steaming shit over trumplestiltskin, but the only thing that really, truly, matters is if can they beat the orange troll in the general. Because if not I truly feel like we are fucked for the rest of our lives, RGB can’t hold on forever and 2020 is not a race we can afford to lose. Also, HI. Sorry if the above is a downer, I just feel like we are living in an alternate reality where I keep waiting for the commercial break that isn’t coming. Feel free to ignore the rambling of a crazy lady. No, I hear ya. This was my view somewhat before the midterms. Right before the midterms I was in GA visiting my super liberal but also super politics immersed friends (so basically irl of this board) and we got in a hours long discussion on this topic. We kind of settled on (and in the case of the two women in the room heavily resigned ourselves) to the America might need a “white guy palette cleanser” from T before it can go back to a nation that enthusiastically elected Obama theory. BUT the midterms changed that for me. Seeing Abrams, Gillum, Beto and a bunch of other candidates get so close to flipping impossible races showed me that it can work. They ran smart, organized, inspired campaigns. They brought in fresh, young enthusiastic voters and donors. They had qualifications but not a lot of baggage. And then all the people who won in Congress. I don’t know. If we go down, I want to go down fighting and I think putting up a new candidate is better than sticking with status quo. And I’m just going to go for the minority, under represented candidate whenever I can. Minorities aren’t enthusiastic about Biden or Bernie. They just aren’t. I feel there is a lot to that. All that said, I’m terrified of what Senator Harris will face if she runs. It’s going to be ugly. Racism + sexism - really scary stuff. Same with all the other minority candidates that decide to go for it. It’s going to be vicious. I still think a person of color or a woman can win. I just do. I maybe the most optimistic person ever, but I want to believe it.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 9, 2019 5:31:39 GMT -6
Agreed. I guess it’s too optimistic to just wish the old white man brigade sit this one out. 😂 So disclaimer, I don’t go here, I just lurk here to keep myself sane. And I truly thank you for that, very very much. But I worry that general America (not here, duh) isn’t ready for a woman as #1. I absolutely LOVE the idea of Kamala with just about anyone, but I also remember that 4 years ago Hillary was this cheeky meme of a woman in sunglasses texting that idiot Bros didn’t hate, and going through this process will make Warren (who lots already don’t love after the DNA stuff) look just as “bad” to people who aren’t affected by the current garbage enough to GAF. Like I voted for Hillary without reservation and would vote for a literal pile of steaming shit over trumplestiltskin, but the only thing that really, truly, matters is if can they beat the orange troll in the general. Because if not I truly feel like we are fucked for the rest of our lives, RGB can’t hold on forever and 2020 is not a race we can afford to lose. Also, HI. Sorry if the above is a downer, I just feel like we are living in an alternate reality where I keep waiting for the commercial break that isn’t coming. Feel free to ignore the rambling of a crazy lady. Jaygee said it better but I’m in agreement that it would be a tough road. However I’m ready for the fight and I really think she has a good shot. We need to stick to messaging that’s not all anti-45 and we will pull the right who find him distasteful to us. She doesn’t have the same baggage that Hillary did. Also everyone goes here stay and play!
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Post by byjove on Jan 9, 2019 5:59:13 GMT -6
I agree that there was insane momentum in the midterms! But it isn’t just popular vote, its electoral college.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Jan 9, 2019 6:46:49 GMT -6
I'm worried. I have the same concerns enginerd spoke to. But right now I think jaygee has it right. I actually think another white dude on the top of the ticket will result in a lot of people on the left just choosing not to vote. Which is how we got where we are today.
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Post by notblanche on Jan 9, 2019 7:55:28 GMT -6
I agree that there was insane momentum in the midterms! But it isn’t just popular vote, its electoral college. This is a very good point. The midterms were energizing and I fully believe the Senate WILL flip in 2020 but there are apples and oranges to compare a congressional election with a presidential one. I don't have a ding dang clue who I'm going to vote for on Super Tuesday (OMG, WHICH IS ON MY BIRTHDAY) but I do share your concerns, enginerd.
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Post by catspajamas on Jan 9, 2019 8:18:05 GMT -6
From an electoral standpoint, in order to win in 2020 we have to win back Michigan, Ohio, and PA/FL. I know Kamala is the #1 around here, but I have serious doubts about her ability to win over moderates in those states. 100% agree on this. It's why I'm starting to lean more towards Sherrod Brown (though I want to keep him here in OH!), he would help us win those states. Plus he's awesome. I'm SO ready for a woman/POC president but, as others have said, we need to get rid of Trump ASAP and so I'm most interested in who I think has the best shot at that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 8:28:46 GMT -6
From an electoral standpoint, in order to win in 2020 we have to win back Michigan, Ohio, and PA/FL. I know Kamala is the #1 around here, but I have serious doubts about her ability to win over moderates in those states. 100% agree on this. It's why I'm starting to lean more towards Sherrod Brown (though I want to keep him here in OH!), he would help us win those states. Plus he's awesome. I'm SO ready for a woman/POC president but, as others have said, we need to get rid of Trump ASAP and so I'm most interested in who I think has the best shot at that.This is where I am. It's unfortunate because Kamala would be an AMAZING president. I don't know what the answer is.
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Post by cakewench on Jan 9, 2019 8:30:20 GMT -6
100% agree on this. It's why I'm starting to lean more towards Sherrod Brown (though I want to keep him here in OH!), he would help us win those states. Plus he's awesome. I'm SO ready for a woman/POC president but, as others have said, we need to get rid of Trump ASAP and so I'm most interested in who I think has the best shot at that.This is where I am. It's unfortunate because Kamala would be an AMAZING president. I don't know what the answer is. Brown/Harris?
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Post by dc2london on Jan 9, 2019 11:47:06 GMT -6
I was pretty surprised by how positive Tommy Vietor was being about the Warren roll out on Monday's Pod
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Post by jaygee on Jan 9, 2019 11:52:42 GMT -6
From an electoral standpoint, in order to win in 2020 we have to win back Michigan, Ohio, and PA/FL. I know Kamala is the #1 around here, but I have serious doubts about her ability to win over moderates in those states. I guess my thought is that I have serious doubts that Biden could win over moderates in those states either. Idk what the right answer is. But I no longer feel an established, older white male has a better shot than a minority candidate.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 9, 2019 11:53:26 GMT -6
So disclaimer, I don’t go here, I just lurk here to keep myself sane. And I truly thank you for that, very very much. But I worry that general America (not here, duh) isn’t ready for a woman as #1. I absolutely LOVE the idea of Kamala with just about anyone, but I also remember that 4 years ago Hillary was this cheeky meme of a woman in sunglasses texting that idiot Bros didn’t hate, and going through this process will make Warren (who lots already don’t love after the DNA stuff) look just as “bad” to people who aren’t affected by the current garbage enough to GAF. Like I voted for Hillary without reservation and would vote for a literal pile of steaming shit over trumplestiltskin, but the only thing that really, truly, matters is if can they beat the orange troll in the general. Because if not I truly feel like we are fucked for the rest of our lives, RGB can’t hold on forever and 2020 is not a race we can afford to lose. Also, HI. Sorry if the above is a downer, I just feel like we are living in an alternate reality where I keep waiting for the commercial break that isn’t coming. Feel free to ignore the rambling of a crazy lady. No, I hear ya. This was my view somewhat before the midterms. Right before the midterms I was in GA visiting my super liberal but also super politics immersed friends (so basically irl of this board) and we got in a hours long discussion on this topic. We kind of settled on (and in the case of the two women in the room heavily resigned ourselves) to the America might need a “white guy palette cleanser” from T before it can go back to a nation that enthusiastically elected Obama theory. BUT the midterms changed that for me. Seeing Abrams, Gillum, Beto and a bunch of other candidates get so close to flipping impossible races showed me that it can work. They ran smart, organized, inspired campaigns. They brought in fresh, young enthusiastic voters and donors. They had qualifications but not a lot of baggage. And then all the people who won in Congress. I don’t know. If we go down, I want to go down fighting and I think putting up a new candidate is better than sticking with status quo. And I’m just going to go for the minority, under represented candidate whenever I can. Minorities aren’t enthusiastic about Biden or Bernie. They just aren’t. I feel there is a lot to that. All that said, I’m terrified of what Senator Harris will face if she runs. It’s going to be ugly. Racism + sexism - really scary stuff. Same with all the other minority candidates that decide to go for it. It’s going to be vicious. I still think a person of color or a woman can win. I just do. I maybe the most optimistic person ever, but I want to believe it. I will add on to this to say that, in 2016, a lit of lifelong Republicans cast a "give the guy a chance" vote. Now, they've seen Trump's America and they want off this ride.
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