pearbear
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Post by pearbear on Jan 14, 2020 10:19:22 GMT -6
Connie Schultz is a gift that just keeps giving I love her.
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jaygee
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Post by jaygee on Jan 14, 2020 10:19:45 GMT -6
Case closed.
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roloma
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Post by roloma on Jan 14, 2020 10:37:47 GMT -6
Holy crap...get busy for one afternoon at work and miss 5 pages of stuff. dc2london,I do not think that IA voters will penalize/punish anyone that returns to DC to fulfill their senate duties on the impeachment trial. We are 3 weeks from caucus and I think people are actually starting to get overwhelmed by candidates at this point. Honestly, last week and this week are really the big pushes and the top candidates have had their big city town halls and rallies. I think there may be a small issue that some people (Biden and Pete) will get a little more last minute face time than Warren and Sanders, but I don't think Warren or Sanders will lose their supporters to Biden or Pete. They just don't pull the same folks and if people are leaning Biden or Pete, they likely wouldn't go Warren or Sanders in the end anyway. The one person that could actually suffer might be Amy, just because she needs more exposure. But she isn't likely to come in top 4 anyway, so it might not make a difference. I'm not sure more than the top 4 will come out as viable at the end of the night. There are three people who I think might have a chance; Steyer, Yang, and Amy, but I just don't know. The Yang Gang is out IN FORCE around here lately but I don't know what their numbers are. Steyer seems to be polling higher than expected but I don't hear a peep from any supporters of him. Polling is trash though so it is all a big question mark.
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roloma
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Post by roloma on Jan 14, 2020 10:42:44 GMT -6
I have found myself defending Biden on multiple occasions over the last couple of days. Maybe I am subconsciously gearing myself up to vote for him. He is not "my guy" but he is a very qualified candidate.
I think for the first time in my presidential voting life, I really am holding back and waiting to hear VP picks before I can solidly embrace a candidate. It is such a weird upside down world place to be. But with so much old, white, and male I am trying to see farther than 4 years on this one.
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dc2london
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 10:51:40 GMT -6
roloma,that's what I thought. Thank you.
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Post by cakewench on Jan 14, 2020 11:11:44 GMT -6
And I’m dead:
Apologies if this has been posted already.
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iruntodrink
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Post by iruntodrink on Jan 14, 2020 11:11:45 GMT -6
I am in Ohio, so I have lots of that too. A guy down the street from me had a "Hillary for prison" sign in his yard for much of 2016. Thankfully I have since moved. One of my neighbors had this sign until recently. I'm in the country, so I've never met this neighbor, thankfully. Every time I drove by, my eyes tried to roll out of my window. I drive by one on the highway nearby along with a full-sized billboard saying ___County loves Trump or some bullshit. This is the one that gets the bird from me when I run by:*poofed*
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Post by punker1212 on Jan 14, 2020 11:12:52 GMT -6
Connie Schultz had this Yes many people, including dear friends, have told me a woman can't win in 2020. This is usually fear speaking and if we're patient with one another, it sparks meaningful conversations. However, a woman hears this differently when she is the one who is running. It feels personal, because it is. Can we please not lose sight of this difference.
she commented as well with this
Connie Schultz I want to add this: I know Bernie, and I'm fond of him. If I had the chance to share with him, in person, the contents of this post, I suspect he would likely say, "Your perspective. I respect that." And we'd talk. If he's your candidate, be *that* Sanders supporter.
But I still think what an absolute shit thing for him to say.
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starbuck
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Post by starbuck on Jan 14, 2020 11:13:30 GMT -6
Corey has killed me.
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Post by punker1212 on Jan 14, 2020 11:13:57 GMT -6
I have found myself defending Biden on multiple occasions over the last couple of days. Maybe I am subconsciously gearing myself up to vote for him. He is not "my guy" but he is a very qualified candidate. I think for the first time in my presidential voting life, I really am holding back and waiting to hear VP picks before I can solidly embrace a candidate. It is such a weird upside down world place to be. But with so much old, white, and male I am trying to see farther than 4 years on this one. Your last sentence- great sentiment!
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iruntodrink
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Post by iruntodrink on Jan 14, 2020 11:15:03 GMT -6
roloma, this will be my 7th presidential election and I have never been this late in the game not picking my horse for the race. I am so extremely cautious this time around, too.
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Minerva
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Post by Minerva on Jan 14, 2020 11:18:00 GMT -6
This is the main way Biden could maybe get my vote in the primary. I would have a v. hard time choosing between Biden/Harris vs. Warren/Castro.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 14, 2020 11:18:46 GMT -6
brace yourselves. Proj.ect V.er.itas has video of some douchey Sanders organizer defending the gulags and threatening to burn cities and beat cops if Bernie isn't the nominee. The "SOSHULISM" and "ANTEEEFAAAAA" shit is about to get loud. Ugh. I’m so sick of the trolling from the right.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 14, 2020 11:20:01 GMT -6
Connie Schultz had this Yes many people, including dear friends, have told me a woman can't win in 2020. This is usually fear speaking and if we're patient with one another, it sparks meaningful conversations. However, a woman hears this differently when she is the one who is running. It feels personal, because it is. Can we please not lose sight of this difference.
she commented as well with this
Connie Schultz I want to add this: I know Bernie, and I'm fond of him. If I had the chance to share with him, in person, the contents of this post, I suspect he would likely say, "Your perspective. I respect that." And we'd talk. If he's your candidate, be *that* Sanders supporter.
God, she is too good for us. I live her so much. Connie 2020? ETA: love, stupid AC
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 15:32:39 GMT -6
SOTU tappers panel is all women, except for him and they are talking about the Bernie Bros.
This is what MSM has come to.
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elle
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Post by elle on Jan 14, 2020 16:38:03 GMT -6
SOTU tappers panel is all women, except for him and they are talking about the Bernie Bros.
This is what MSM has come to.
What are they saying?
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 16:42:35 GMT -6
SOTU tappers panel is all women, except for him and they are talking about the Bernie Bros.
This is what MSM has come to.
What are they saying? how the bros went after women ruthlessly online and scared them from speaking and how it was felt (at the time) that Bernie should have done more to rein them in. And when confronted with it he basically shrugged and said yeah you shouldn't be awful.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Jan 14, 2020 17:37:05 GMT -6
Have you taken this quiz? I mean take it with a grain of salt as with everything. Apologies if this was already posted. I don't have a WaPo subscription anymore but I was able to take it through Apple News or Twitter or something... www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/Warren agrees most with me (I think 16/20), Sanders next and very close behind (14/20). I was not surprised to see Pete doesn't agree with me very much. I WAS surprised to see that Biden agrees with me the LEAST. We only agree on 4 out of 20 issues.
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 14, 2020 17:44:21 GMT -6
Have you taken this quiz? I mean take it with a grain of salt as with everything. Apologies if this was already posted. I don't have a WaPo subscription anymore but I was able to take it through Apple News or Twitter or something... www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/Warren agrees most with me (I think 16/20), Sanders next and very close behind (14/20). I was not surprised to see Pete doesn't agree with me very much. I WAS surprised to see that Biden agrees with me the LEAST. We only agree on 4 out of 20 issues. I am Liz 15/20 then (head tilt) Steyer 12/20, and Yang in 3rd with 10/20
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Post by jaygee on Jan 14, 2020 17:45:58 GMT -6
Have you taken this quiz? I mean take it with a grain of salt as with everything. Apologies if this was already posted. I don't have a WaPo subscription anymore but I was able to take it through Apple News or Twitter or something... www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/Warren agrees most with me (I think 16/20), Sanders next and very close behind (14/20). I was not surprised to see Pete doesn't agree with me very much. I WAS surprised to see that Biden agrees with me the LEAST. We only agree on 4 out of 20 issues. I got Warren and Steyer. Biden was tied for my lowest with Pete and Tulsi. I think part of the Biden issue with this poll is that he doesn’t have stances on a few things publicly released. I think I saw 2 questions where he doesn’t come up at all.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Jan 14, 2020 17:48:51 GMT -6
Yes! Steyer was high up on the list for me, too! Weird.
And that makes sense about Biden, JG, but definitely contributes to why I am so very "meh" about him.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 17:49:59 GMT -6
I took that WaPo quiz this morning and got Warren then Steyer
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Post by dc2london on Jan 14, 2020 17:50:43 GMT -6
That's the thing about Steyer, I haven't been bothered by anything he has said, I just.....I dunno, he doesn't have it for me
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starbuck
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Post by starbuck on Jan 14, 2020 17:52:11 GMT -6
I got Bloomberg, then Biden, with Amy 3rd.
I haven't paid any attention to Bloomberg so him being my top is a surprise. Biden I have more disagreements with his problematic rhetoric than his policy so I get it. And y'all know I love Amy so.
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Post by Ls2012 on Jan 14, 2020 18:00:20 GMT -6
That's the thing about Steyer, I haven't been bothered by anything he has said, I just.....I dunno, he doesn't have it for me He has no governing experience. That's the clincher for me. I'm done gambling our futures on businessmen. Michigan did it with Snyder as governor for 8yrs, and now the obvious 45 debacle. I just can't do it.
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elle
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Post by elle on Jan 14, 2020 18:13:18 GMT -6
My results were Steyer 17, Warren 13, and Klobuchar and Buttigieg 11. My lowest were Sanders, Gabbard and Biden.
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elle
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Post by elle on Jan 14, 2020 18:15:12 GMT -6
That's the thing about Steyer, I haven't been bothered by anything he has said, I just.....I dunno, he doesn't have it for me He has no governing experience. That's the clincher for me. I'm done gambling our futures on businessmen. Michigan did it with Snyder as governor for 8yrs, and now the obvious 45 debacle. I just can't do it. This is where I am. I like what he says and agree with most of it. I don't like that he bought his way into this race and wish he would have put that money behind one of the other candidates, preferably one that was not a white male.
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Post by Minerva on Jan 14, 2020 18:15:37 GMT -6
Steyer. Lol. Warren and Klobuchar were tied for 2nd, which seems a bit bizarre.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 14, 2020 18:16:37 GMT -6
He has no governing experience. That's the clincher for me. I'm done gambling our futures on businessmen. Michigan did it with Snyder as governor for 8yrs, and now the obvious 45 debacle. I just can't do it. This is where I am. I like what he says and agree with most of it. I don't like that he bought his way into this race and wish he would have put that money behind one of the other candidates, preferably one that was not a white male. ::cough:: Kamala ::cough::
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elle
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Post by elle on Jan 14, 2020 18:22:22 GMT -6
This is where I am. I like what he says and agree with most of it. I don't like that he bought his way into this race and wish he would have put that money behind one of the other candidates, preferably one that was not a white male. ::cough:: Kamala ::cough:: That's exactly what I wish had happened, but you know I love her so I'm not exactly impartial.
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