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Post by dc2london on Apr 27, 2019 5:45:26 GMT -6
Joe is really not looking good: theslot.jezebel.com/heather-heyers-mother-had-no-idea-her-daughter-would-be-1834326929Apparently he never contacted Heather Hayer’s family about including her death in his campaign video. He called her mother 12 hours after it dropped. “I think he said something about ‘I would have reached out sooner, but I wasn’t sure how you’d feel,’” Bro said. “And I commented, ‘Yes, I noticed you didn’t mention her name, because you didn’t contact me.’ So we sort of acknowledged that much.” — Susan Bro, Hayer’s mother Wow. Wasn’t sure how she’d feel, so he didn’t bother finding out. Between this and the N over Obama, Joe is quickly moving from nice but clueless to entitled asshole category for me. I feel like every single aspect of this rollout has been bungled. It's amateur hour over there. |
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Post by doublestuf on Apr 27, 2019 7:45:59 GMT -6
Y'all I'm watching some of Elizabeth Warren on She the People and she had them in the palm of her hand. She was electrifying and told a story that was so genuine and powerful. I'm going to get H to watch it. He likes her policies but doesn't think she has much charisma. This is the clip. |
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Post by PandaWatch on Apr 27, 2019 10:17:12 GMT -6
Joe is really not looking good: theslot.jezebel.com/heather-heyers-mother-had-no-idea-her-daughter-would-be-1834326929Apparently he never contacted Heather Hayer’s family about including her death in his campaign video. He called her mother 12 hours after it dropped. “I think he said something about ‘I would have reached out sooner, but I wasn’t sure how you’d feel,’” Bro said. “And I commented, ‘Yes, I noticed you didn’t mention her name, because you didn’t contact me.’ So we sort of acknowledged that much.” — Susan Bro, Hayer’s mother Wow. Wasn’t sure how she’d feel, so he didn’t bother finding out. Between this and the N over Obama, Joe is quickly moving from nice but clueless to entitled asshole category for me. I feel like every single aspect of this rollout has been bungled. It's amateur hour over there. Which is weird since it’s his third fucking time running for President! |
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Post by richard on Apr 27, 2019 11:02:50 GMT -6
Michelle Kwan has also joined the Biden campaign: *click* |
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 28, 2019 8:01:19 GMT -6
Hey look Amy is on MTP
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 28, 2019 8:29:58 GMT -6
Also Peggy Noonan sounds like Liz Warren
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Post by kitchen on Apr 29, 2019 8:43:25 GMT -6
Biden getting in and being declared the front runner by the media seems like the tipping point that will make 45's re-election go from close to an easy slide into a second term.
Admittedly, I'm in a really dark place about all of the things right now.
Am I too chicken little about this?
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Post by enchanted on Apr 29, 2019 8:56:58 GMT -6
Biden getting in and being declared the front runner by the media seems like the tipping point that will make 45's re-election go from close to an easy slide into a second term. Admittedly, I'm in a really dark place about all of the things right now. Am I too chicken little about this? I don't know. A lot of my friends who couldn't bring themselves to vote for either HRC or 45 seem to be really excited about Biden. That said, the Bros are coming hard for Biden for being a corporate shill just like they did for HRC. |
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Post by notblanche on Apr 29, 2019 9:26:23 GMT -6
I don't believe Joe Biden will be the front runner a few months from now.
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 29, 2019 9:30:51 GMT -6
Biden wouldn't be the frontrunner if the media wasn't doing Biden 24/7.
From the very little news I watched this weekend (and this morning) its been Biden Biden Bernie 10 mins of Amy on MTP, and Elizabeths response to Biden and his fundraiser.
So out of 20 Candidates, FOUR of them got mentioned (Pete may have had a nod being in 3rd)on major tv outlets.
its starting to feel like 2016 all over.
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 29, 2019 9:39:30 GMT -6
WAPO ABC Poll
54 No specific contender
13 Biden
9 Bernie
5 Pete
4 Kamala
Over half of dem voters do not have a candidate picked yet.
Biden only has 13% if it were held today. We're a year out from primaries. So while it SEEMS as if he's the anointed one at this time, he ain't.
This is my thought of the day.
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Post by athn64 on Apr 29, 2019 11:23:58 GMT -6
I agree that Biden is only where he is because he's getting all the media attention. I will vote for him if he wins the primary, but he's done at the bottom of the list with Bernie and Gabbard on who I want to vote for (he is ahead of them, but still not that high up)
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Post by stringy on Apr 29, 2019 11:30:55 GMT -6
Maybe this has been covered, but how does Bernie have so many unique contributions (500k vs 100k for others)? Is there some loophole in his way of counting?
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Post by doublestuf on Apr 29, 2019 11:48:18 GMT -6
Watching TV so no link, but according to a Monmouth Uni poll 2% of them support Pete, 28% Biden, 27% Bernie....no other candidates mentioned.
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Post by cakewench on Apr 29, 2019 15:03:54 GMT -6
I've gotten like 3 emails today from Biden alone. (I'm sure it's from when I subscribed to Obama.) I may unsubscribe, that's just ridiculous.
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Post by teatime on Apr 29, 2019 15:33:06 GMT -6
I've gotten like 3 emails today from Biden alone. (I'm sure it's from when I subscribed to Obama.) I may unsubscribe, that's just ridiculous. Warren’s have been driving me nuts, too. |
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 29, 2019 15:41:22 GMT -6
I've gotten like 3 emails today from Biden alone. (I'm sure it's from when I subscribed to Obama.) I may unsubscribe, that's just ridiculous. Warren’s have been driving me nuts, too. Biden AND Bernie for me, like a total of 6.
how I got on Bernies list I dont know.
I got a text from Kamala today as well.
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 29, 2019 15:42:15 GMT -6
For example
Sorry to bother you again, but we were going through our records and it looks like you haven’t signed our petition to say you’re on Team Joe.
We want to make sure we have an accurate report of all our week one supporters. So if you support Joe Biden, please sign your name below:
Yeah there is a reason I havent signed it knuckleheads
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Post by elle on Apr 29, 2019 16:18:38 GMT -6
I've gotten like 3 emails today from Biden alone. (I'm sure it's from when I subscribed to Obama.) I may unsubscribe, that's just ridiculous. My H has been trying to unsubscribe for nearly a week now, but he keeps getting those emails. |
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Post by dc2london on Apr 29, 2019 16:57:58 GMT -6
MSNBC covered his rally live this afternoon.
Have they done that for other candidates this year?
Sorry I just feel like the media are really throwing their weight behind Biden which they did with Trump
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Post by doublestuf on Apr 29, 2019 18:09:15 GMT -6
MSNBC covered his rally live this afternoon. Have they done that for other candidates this year? Sorry I just feel like the media are really throwing their weight behind Biden which they did with Trump Yes, they have covered many, if not all the big ones. |
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Post by doublestuf on Apr 29, 2019 19:25:29 GMT -6
Interesting...  |
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Post by doublestuf on Apr 29, 2019 20:19:32 GMT -6
Also, I'm curious to see what that looks like with Biden, since he is the epitome of electability 🙄.
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Post by stepho on Apr 29, 2019 20:55:37 GMT -6
Welp. Jacob Wohl (attempts to) strike again.
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Post by jaygee on Apr 29, 2019 21:24:30 GMT -6
That makes my blood boil. How is Jacob Wahl not in jail for one of his schemes yet?
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Post by dc2london on Apr 30, 2019 4:55:00 GMT -6
I haven't really seen anyone talking about the other benefits of Senator Warren's debt relief plan.
Wouldn't it provide similar benefits as the Bush tax cuts without the shortsighted stupidity? Relieving crippling debt for millions of Americans would, I suspect, result in an infusion of capital into the consumer economy. People would upgrade their old beat up cars, replace their fridge, buy that nice TV they've been eyeing. Millenials might buy houses! They might even represent a demand for :gasp: affordable housing instead of luxury condos! And we would need construction workers to build those houses! Suddenly you've got economic growth and job creation!
What am I missing here?
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Post by jkjacq on Apr 30, 2019 5:11:52 GMT -6
I haven't really seen anyone talking about the other benefits of Senator Warren's debt relief plan. Wouldn't it provide similar benefits as the Bush tax cuts without the shortsighted stupidity? Relieving crippling debt for millions of Americans would, I suspect, result in an infusion of capital into the consumer economy. People would upgrade their old beat up cars, replace their fridge, buy that nice TV they've been eyeing. Millenials might buy houses! They might even represent a demand for :gasp: affordable housing instead of luxury condos! And we would need construction workers to build those houses! Suddenly you've got economic growth and job creation! What am I missing here? Obviously that she’s a woman and a democrat so it couldn’t possibly be a good idea and she’s not electable /sarc |
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Post by Minerva on Apr 30, 2019 5:58:48 GMT -6
I haven't really seen anyone talking about the other benefits of Senator Warren's debt relief plan. Wouldn't it provide similar benefits as the Bush tax cuts without the shortsighted stupidity? Relieving crippling debt for millions of Americans would, I suspect, result in an infusion of capital into the consumer economy. People would upgrade their old beat up cars, replace their fridge, buy that nice TV they've been eyeing. Millenials might buy houses! They might even represent a demand for :gasp: affordable housing instead of luxury condos! And we would need construction workers to build those houses! Suddenly you've got economic growth and job creation! What am I missing here? Nothing. I think you are exactly correct. Her policy initiatives aren’t getting the in depth coverage they deserve because the media is too busy covering the Bernie-Biden pissing match. |
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Post by PandaWatch on Apr 30, 2019 11:31:48 GMT -6
The higher ed policy world is talking about the Warren student debt plan. Urban and Brookings did analyses last week.
The major problem is that it is a regressive plan that would provide greater benefits to those that need it the least. The average student loan debt for an under grad degree is ~ $30k. Those with the most amount of debt on average TEND to be those that went to graduate school, and thus have a higher earning potential. Those that took on the least amount of debt TEND to be those that dropped out.
And setting the income cap at $100k (and going all the way up to $250k for partial relief) is going to benefit people living very comfortable lifestyles in LCOL areas.
A better targeted plan would be one that focused on: those in default, non-completers, those that went to for-profit schools, and borrowers of color.
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Post by dc2london on May 1, 2019 17:45:51 GMT -6
I'm catching up on the Pod and Cornell Belcher just told Jon that the horse rave polling we see right now has basically no bearing on what polling will show in a few months.
That made me feel a lot better bc I am not pleased by the current horse race polling.
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