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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 6:49:10 GMT -6
richard, someone on Twitter said his numbers are good, yes, but he's the only one that ran before, so he's got the best infrastructure in place. He also probably has the best name recognition, short of Biden. So its still early, and may not be time to panic just yet. Yes, this. I voted for Bernie in the primary last go round and have already received several emails from him and berner adjacent orgs asking for donations. He already has huge lists of people to reach out to. I'll not be donating this time. And my Bernie tote bag has been torn up to make the warp on a rag rug I'm planning. Canvas makes great rug warp! Yeah I have already gotten texts and emails too. His fundraising machine is in full force now. I won’t be donating either.
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Post by notblanche on Feb 20, 2019 8:25:45 GMT -6
I got a text message from Bern yesterday, no thank you. Mh and my brother are already “not hating” the idea and double no thank you. He’s not going to shout over all of those women on the debate dais. I won’t allow it.
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Post by roloma on Feb 20, 2019 10:13:37 GMT -6
I'm also seeing multiple folks who voted for him last time expressing annoyance that's popped back up. All women. All the guys who were pro-Bern last time seem to still be. There's one in particular who I'm pretty sure is going to accuse me of reverse sexism. I am noticing this too. Even my husband was questioning why I didn't support him this time around. He said he was surprised I was so anti-Bernie. It took me some time to explain that we didn't need him and there were better options out there with progressive ideas, unlike last time. I had someone tell me "I don't base my candidate choices off of age, race, sex, etc." Eye roll for one hundred years. (spoiler alert: it was a man that said that)
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 20, 2019 10:16:04 GMT -6
I'm also seeing multiple folks who voted for him last time expressing annoyance that's popped back up. All women. All the guys who were pro-Bern last time seem to still be. There's one in particular who I'm pretty sure is going to accuse me of reverse sexism. I am noticing this too. Even my husband was questioning why I didn't support him this time around. He said he was surprised I was so anti-Bernie. It took me some time to explain that we didn't need him and there were better options out there with progressive ideas, unlike last time. I had someone tell me "I don't base my candidate choices off of age, race, sex, etc." Eye roll for one hundred years. (spoiler alert: it was a man that said that) He will be damn near EIGHTYONE years old. I'm sorry I know many 81 year olds who are still sharp and cognizant BUT AT THE SAME TIME I dont want to take the chance. I dont care if its ageist.
He's eligible for social security go enjoy your retirement.
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Post by Dr. Cox on Feb 20, 2019 11:02:42 GMT -6
I am noticing this too. Even my husband was questioning why I didn't support him this time around. He said he was surprised I was so anti-Bernie. It took me some time to explain that we didn't need him and there were better options out there with progressive ideas, unlike last time. I had someone tell me "I don't base my candidate choices off of age, race, sex, etc." Eye roll for one hundred years. (spoiler alert: it was a man that said that) He will be damn near EIGHTYONE years old. I'm sorry I know many 81 year olds who are still sharp and cognizant BUT AT THE SAME TIME I dont want to take the chance. I dont care if its ageist.
He's eligible for social security go enjoy your retirement.
FFWC: I thought Bernie was already 82-85.
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Post by roloma on Feb 20, 2019 11:48:08 GMT -6
I am noticing this too. Even my husband was questioning why I didn't support him this time around. He said he was surprised I was so anti-Bernie. It took me some time to explain that we didn't need him and there were better options out there with progressive ideas, unlike last time. I had someone tell me "I don't base my candidate choices off of age, race, sex, etc." Eye roll for one hundred years. (spoiler alert: it was a man that said that) He will be damn near EIGHTYONE years old. I'm sorry I know many 81 year olds who are still sharp and cognizant BUT AT THE SAME TIME I dont want to take the chance. I dont care if its ageist.
He's eligible for social security go enjoy your retirement.
FFS, if you think of him as a 2 term president that would be 81-85 and 85-89. 89 Are you kidding me?? I will take my ageism and claim it proudly on this one.
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 20, 2019 11:51:15 GMT -6
I have also noticed the still berners are all guys. Except mh thank goodness. He agrees Bernard is done.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Feb 20, 2019 13:36:49 GMT -6
My BIL is a hard-core Berner and wants to burn Gilibrand for "what she did to Franken". We had a huge fight about it this weekend. Fucking spare me, dude.
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Post by misspatty on Feb 20, 2019 13:47:50 GMT -6
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Post by misspatty on Feb 20, 2019 13:50:28 GMT -6
My BIL is a hard-core Berner and wants to burn Gilibrand for "what she did to Franken". We had a huge fight about it this weekend. Fucking spare me, dude. I just cannot with the Franken/Gillibrand garbage. I get so heated about it. Franken fucked himself over. Gillibrand just has enough integrity to hold people on her side accountable.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 20, 2019 14:07:01 GMT -6
My BIL is a hard-core Berner and wants to burn Gilibrand for "what she did to Franken". We had a huge fight about it this weekend. Fucking spare me, dude. I just cannot with the Franken/Gillibrand garbage. I get so heated about it. Franken fucked himself over. Gillibrand just has enough integrity to hold people on her side accountable. I'm glad I read ahead.
Gillibrand did nothing. She was not responsible for Frankens actions. Was it a loss? Yes, because he was really knowledgeable about the whole internet thing. But at least we don't look the other way and kick sand over our parties misdeeds.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Feb 20, 2019 15:17:57 GMT -6
I just cannot with the Franken/Gillibrand garbage. I get so heated about it. Franken fucked himself over. Gillibrand just has enough integrity to hold people on her side accountable. I'm glad I read ahead.
Gillibrand did nothing. She was not responsible for Frankens actions. Was it a loss? Yes, because he was really knowledgeable about the whole internet thing. But at least we don't look the other way and kick sand over our parties misdeeds.
BIL's argument was Franken was the lesser of two evils, and we should overlook these things because they're not a big deal. It's a bigger loss not having him in the Senate.
You guys. I CANNOT.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Feb 20, 2019 15:33:02 GMT -6
I really dislike Bernie and I'm going to be pissed if I have to vote for him in the general election.
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Post by cakewench on Feb 20, 2019 15:38:31 GMT -6
I saw an article on FB today that's saying Bernie is the Dem frontrunner.
no thanks.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Feb 20, 2019 16:40:51 GMT -6
I really dislike Bernie and I'm going to be pissed if I have to vote for him in the general election. What the actual fuck. That's gross.
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Post by dc2london on Feb 20, 2019 16:51:25 GMT -6
So the DNC came up with new metrics this year for the debate. I think they should have added a 3rd.
YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE A DEMOCRAT.
Let Bernie sit on a stage and debate himself in the Independent debates.
That's in the rules to run as a Democrat
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Post by dc2london on Feb 20, 2019 16:56:18 GMT -6
I agree with this, but I also think the way people treat their employees or subordinates says a lot about who they are as a person. Ok thats fair but why do we not have the conversation about how a man is or isn't 'nice' to his staff? Its subjective, you are always going to have disgruntled employees that are going to make more of a situation than it was. And the fact that its only Amy/Kamala/Elizabeth, not 45, not Pence, not Booker, not Bernie, says something. Hell Bernie has been excused by most for the sexist shit that went on during his last campaign because, 'he couldn't have been aware of it'. I have never heard anything about how Tim Kaine treats his staff or how Shouty McShirtsleeves treats his. But Kamala not being nice or Amy throwing a binder (apparently not AT anyone, I will admit I've thrown papers across my desk in a fit of frustration) becomes a central narrative to how they govern. And I would bet dollars to donuts that Shouty has thrown his fair share of temper tantrums behind his office doors AT his staff.
SURELY YOU JEST. JIM JORDAN WOULD *NEVER* RAISE HIS VOICE.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 20, 2019 18:31:39 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 20, 2019 20:25:00 GMT -6
I saw an article on FB today that's saying Bernie is the Dem frontrunner. no thanks. Solely on name recognition and fundraising. Which he already had framework in place for that.
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Post by byjove on Feb 21, 2019 5:36:02 GMT -6
How big does his ego have to be to keep running? Go away, Bernie!
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Post by roloma on Feb 21, 2019 9:42:35 GMT -6
My (male) cousin is still apparently Berning.(what is it with these people?) But he did say he was very interested in Mayor Pete. Once I mentioned Mayor Pete as a VP and laid out why I am digging Kamala, he said he would happily vote for a Kamala/Pete ticket. I like the sound of that. He is definitely not hardcore Bernie or Bust though because he mentioned that he would vote, with glee, for whoever the nominee is. And we also agreed that given the opportunity we would vote Obama in as King for Life.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Feb 21, 2019 11:01:26 GMT -6
Did everyone see the Time cover? 🤣
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Post by athn64 on Feb 21, 2019 13:00:56 GMT -6
Did everyone see the Time cover? 🤣 This is great
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Post by misspatty on Feb 22, 2019 8:37:44 GMT -6
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Post by misspatty on Feb 22, 2019 8:45:44 GMT -6
I swear I don't actually work for Pete or anything. Lol.
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Post by enchanted on Feb 22, 2019 8:49:17 GMT -6
I swear I don't actually work for Pete or anything. Lol. I don't believe you.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 22, 2019 8:57:32 GMT -6
ActBlue really needs to send me a bumper sticker or something
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Post by misspatty on Feb 22, 2019 9:02:28 GMT -6
I swear I don't actually work for Pete or anything. Lol. I don't believe you. I wish. Pete is smart enough not to pay me when I cheerlead this much for him for free!
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Post by byjove on Feb 22, 2019 9:02:39 GMT -6
I swear I don't actually work for Pete or anything. Lol. ... YET
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 22, 2019 9:04:28 GMT -6
I don't believe you. I wish. Pete is smart enough not to pay me when I cheerlead this much for him for free! He and his husband are so freaking ADORABLE
Which as zero to do with anything. but had to be put out there
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