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Post by sterling on Feb 11, 2019 8:33:53 GMT -6
I don’t know, I think we can’t have it both ways. Like, we can’t look forward to 2020 without looking back at what went wrong. We (Democrats) lost, not without making some mistakes, and I actually appreciate calling them out a little. It’s a level of self awareness I appreciate, and recognition that isn’t wasn’t all the fault of outside influences (even is that played a role too). I don’t disagree. I was actually more weary of bashing Amy over that statement. I mean maybe she really meant some huge dig by it, but maybe she just really is trying to say “Midwest, I’m here for you”. Which is smart for a lot of reasons. The backlash seemed over sensitive. Ah, I see. I misinterpreted. I feel like Amy’s getting a lot of shit and I’m already over it.
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Post by sterling on Feb 11, 2019 8:35:38 GMT -6
All I want is to feel Obama 2008 level excited about whoever wins the nomination is, is that too much to ask?! I kind of wish we could fast forward to the primaries being over and just see who it is.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 11, 2019 8:37:58 GMT -6
I don’t disagree. I was actually more weary of bashing Amy over that statement. I mean maybe she really meant some huge dig by it, but maybe she just really is trying to say “Midwest, I’m here for you”. Which is smart for a lot of reasons. The backlash seemed over sensitive. Ah, I see. I misinterpreted. I feel like Amy’s getting a lot of shit and I’m already over it. Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I spent too much time on twitter this weekend and was annoyed at over analysis of pretty much every topic. I’m staying off that platform for a couple days to cleanse. Lol.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Feb 11, 2019 8:41:47 GMT -6
I don't know if this belongs here or in the weekly thread - may do both because it's AMAZING: 😳
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Post by bunnyfungo on Feb 11, 2019 11:07:33 GMT -6
I spent all of yesterday looking at houses in WI during that same blizzard. So, I welcome any and all campaigning there and look forward to voting blue in a swing state next year. Not sure it’ll be a vote for Amy for me though.
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Post by catspajamas on Feb 11, 2019 12:00:39 GMT -6
While Amy's dig at his hair was funny, IDK that I want presidential candidates stooping to his level on stuff like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it but there are plenty of real issues to attack him on and I feel like we should be focused on those.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 11, 2019 12:50:10 GMT -6
While Amy's dig at his hair was funny, IDK that I want presidential candidates stooping to his level on stuff like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it but there are plenty of real issues to attack him on and I feel like we should be focused on those. I laughed.
I think a one off here and there is perfectly fine. I just dont want the next 945938475 months to be like that.
I still find it interesting he has yet to really go after Kamala.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 11, 2019 13:13:31 GMT -6
While Amy's dig at his hair was funny, IDK that I want presidential candidates stooping to his level on stuff like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it but there are plenty of real issues to attack him on and I feel like we should be focused on those. Y'all know I love Amy but I am also hoping this kind of barb is a rare thing. Coming with the facts does a really great job of making him look foolish. Focus on looking Presidential.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 11, 2019 13:19:57 GMT -6
While Amy's dig at his hair was funny, IDK that I want presidential candidates stooping to his level on stuff like that. Maybe I'm overthinking it but there are plenty of real issues to attack him on and I feel like we should be focused on those. I laughed.
I think a one off here and there is perfectly fine. I just dont want the next 945938475 months to be like that.
I still find it interesting he has yet to really go after Kamala.
I'm really fascinated by this too. I think his MO is to be totally extra towards anyone he perceives as opposition, so does he just not think she poses a real challenge? Underestimating her would be a huuuuuuuuge mistake. Or maybe she is the first one to genuinely strike some fear. IDK.
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Post by elle on Feb 11, 2019 13:23:21 GMT -6
I laughed.
I think a one off here and there is perfectly fine. I just dont want the next 945938475 months to be like that.
I still find it interesting he has yet to really go after Kamala.
I'm really fascinated by this too. I think his MO is to be totally extra towards anyone he perceives as opposition, so does he just not think she poses a real challenge? Underestimating her would be a huuuuuuuuge mistake. Or maybe she is the first one to genuinely strike some fear. IDK. He doesn't attack Nancy the same as others either ("or as I call her...Nancy" lol) so maybe he's intimidated? Idk.
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Post by roloma on Feb 11, 2019 13:37:51 GMT -6
All I want is to feel Obama 2008 level excited about whoever wins the nomination is, is that too much to ask?! I kind of wish we could fast forward to the primaries being over and just see who it is. This is where I am. I was talking about Amy yesterday and mentioned that while I think she is a good candidate, I don't get the "wow". I want the wow and excitement. I want to feel a movement, damn it!
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Post by ladybrienne on Feb 11, 2019 15:42:53 GMT -6
All I want is to feel Obama 2008 level excited about whoever wins the nomination is, is that too much to ask?! I kind of wish we could fast forward to the primaries being over and just see who it is. The two that excite me the most by far are Kamala and...Beto. I know he hasn’t announced but I absolutely love him. I really hope he runs. What can I say.
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Post by sctiger on Feb 11, 2019 16:12:59 GMT -6
All I want is to feel Obama 2008 level excited about whoever wins the nomination is, is that too much to ask?! I kind of wish we could fast forward to the primaries being over and just see who it is. The two that excite me the most by far are Kamala and...Beto. I know he hasn’t announced but I absolutely love him. I really hope he runs. What can I say. They both excite me too. I know, white male and all that, but I love Beto. I wonder if he's planning to announce at the rally today. There certainly seems to be a lot of build up to it. My husband is aware of my crush on Beto 😀
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 11, 2019 16:18:48 GMT -6
All I want is to feel Obama 2008 level excited about whoever wins the nomination is, is that too much to ask?! I kind of wish we could fast forward to the primaries being over and just see who it is. The two that excite me the most by far are Kamala and...Beto. I know he hasn’t announced but I absolutely love him. I really hope he runs. What can I say. I've seen a couple of interviews with Mayor Pete and I REALLY like him. I'm starting to sit on misspatty s bench
but I do <3 Kamala and Beto too.
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Post by elle on Feb 11, 2019 16:22:46 GMT -6
The two that excite me the most by far are Kamala and...Beto. I know he hasn’t announced but I absolutely love him. I really hope he runs. What can I say. I've seen a couple of interviews with Mayor Pete and I REALLY like him. I'm starting to sit on misspatty s bench
but I do <3 Kamala and Beto too.
I like him too. At this point I'd be down for a Harris/Buttigieg ticket.
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Post by ladybrienne on Feb 11, 2019 16:42:25 GMT -6
Beto’s youth and energy are what excites me most. He’s passionate and truly cares for people, plus he doesn’t have as much baggage. He’s a family man and damn I just love the guy. I also of course think he is qualified.
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Post by fatpony on Feb 11, 2019 16:47:14 GMT -6
I'm here for any of them. I think they all could bring something fantastic to the table. Look at the fucking rockstars the D's are pushing out for 2020 compared to the crew that the R's had for 2016.
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Post by sctiger on Feb 11, 2019 16:47:59 GMT -6
Beto’s youth and energy are what excites me most. He’s passionate and truly cares for people, plus he doesn’t have as much baggage. He’s a family man and damn I just love the guy. I also of course think he is qualified. I love the idea of having a young family in the White House again!
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Post by ladybrienne on Feb 11, 2019 17:14:26 GMT -6
I'm here for any of them. I think they all could bring something fantastic to the table. Look at the fucking rockstars the D's are pushing out for 2020 compared to the crew that the R's had for 2016. Omg the republican chucklefucks of 2016. What a god damned nightmare.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 11, 2019 17:24:47 GMT -6
I'm here for any of them. I think they all could bring something fantastic to the table. Look at the fucking rockstars the D's are pushing out for 2020 compared to the crew that the R's had for 2016. Omg the republican chucklefucks of 2016. What a god damned nightmare. Jeb!
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Post by Uncaripswife on Feb 11, 2019 17:55:10 GMT -6
Omg the republican chucklefucks of 2016. What a god damned nightmare. Jeb! This will never not make me laugh.
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Post by misspatty on Feb 11, 2019 18:48:59 GMT -6
The two that excite me the most by far are Kamala and...Beto. I know he hasn’t announced but I absolutely love him. I really hope he runs. What can I say. I've seen a couple of interviews with Mayor Pete and I REALLY like him. I'm starting to sit on misspatty s bench
but I do <3 Kamala and Beto too.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 11, 2019 20:24:09 GMT -6
Maddows A block is about Amy tonight
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 11, 2019 21:03:54 GMT -6
Almost her entire show was Amy
Tomorrow is Booker
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Post by dc2london on Feb 12, 2019 9:13:48 GMT -6
Amy’s taking some heat on Twitter for saying this: “We’re starting in Wisconsin because, as you remember, there wasn’t a lot of campaigning in Wisconsin in 2016. With me, that changes.” Idk. Man. I’m already tired of the fighting and I normally like this stuff. I don’t know, I think we can’t have it both ways. Like, we can’t look forward to 2020 without looking back at what went wrong. We (Democrats) lost, not without making some mistakes, and I actually appreciate calling them out a little. It’s a level of self awareness I appreciate, and recognition that isn’t wasn’t all the fault of outside influences (even is that played a role too). I think it's also a nod to the 'left behind' Trump voter. She's saying, "I see you. I hear you. You don't have to vote for a racist shitbag to be heard."
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Post by willow on Feb 12, 2019 9:14:34 GMT -6
I work with a lot of former prosecutor turned now judges that had Amy as their boss and they do not have many kind things to say about her. I don’t know many people in the professional setting that like her, tbh. I’m neutral toward her at the moment.
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Post by dc2london on Feb 12, 2019 9:16:05 GMT -6
I'm here for any of them. I think they all could bring something fantastic to the table. Look at the fucking rockstars the D's are pushing out for 2020 compared to the crew that the R's had for 2016. Omg the republican chucklefucks of 2016. What a god damned nightmare. Is Tulsi our Ben Carson?
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Post by ladybrienne on Feb 12, 2019 9:54:08 GMT -6
Omg the republican chucklefucks of 2016. What a god damned nightmare. Is Tulsi our Ben Carson? Lol sounds about right
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Post by roloma on Feb 12, 2019 11:00:11 GMT -6
One of my hardcore R coworkers (not the same one who flopped on Trump recently...are you sensing a pattern?) said yesterday he thought that by the primaries the dem candidates will be so splintered that Joe Biden will need to swoop in and "save the day". Lol, no. 1) Our dem candidates are not the assholes you all had in 2016. I think it is highly unlikely they will be discussing each other's penis sizes at debates and 2) We don't need Grandpa Joe to save shit. Love you Joe but no.
Yes, we have a lot of candidates but I truly believe there will be unity and civility, given the slate we currently have. We win in the end, no matter who comes out on top.
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 12, 2019 12:11:02 GMT -6
Yeah, we have a lot of candidates. We have a lot of Great candidates! How awesome is that?! What a tremendous luxury it is to choose from a group of highly qualified, fierce, brilliant individuals!
R's are ridiculous if they think we're facing a problem.
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