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Post by food on Oct 23, 2018 19:43:32 GMT -6
Is there any chance that Dad could’ve gotten home from work and been the one to kick in the door and call 911? Talk me through that. How do you think that would work? No snark, I just want to picture the scenario. Gets home from work. Stuff is going down. Starts yelling to let him in and he’s calling the cops. Whoever shoots him and leaves. Idk. It’s his house. He had a key and could’ve gotten in without kicking the door. The only thing it would explain is the tip off that 911 was called and they need to leave ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 19:46:45 GMT -6
Hm. That’s a good theory too.
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Post by sweptaway on Oct 23, 2018 19:48:32 GMT -6
I think where they found his body would make it clear which direction he was coming from though no? Towards the door vs walking into the house?
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Post by brux on Oct 23, 2018 19:54:35 GMT -6
It seems like dad would’ve been home for a lot longer.
Though maybe he went out for drinks after work and got home late.
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Post by Pistol on Oct 23, 2018 20:06:27 GMT -6
It seems like dad would’ve been home for a lot longer. Though maybe he went out for drinks after work and got home late. Or works a second shift job?
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Post by Cher on Oct 23, 2018 20:58:33 GMT -6
I feel like so much of this stuff we would know already. I can’t tell if the authorities are deliberately holding back info or have nothing. For this amount of time, it seems like the latter.
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Post by food on Oct 23, 2018 21:12:55 GMT -6
Oh I just saw that it’s confirmed the call came from the mom’s phone. I’ve been looking at the 911 logs. Does anyone know who Cheyenne and JLR are? Says they were asked to leave as they kept driving by the scene.
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Post by Cher on Oct 23, 2018 21:24:36 GMT -6
Oh I just saw that it’s confirmed the call came from the mom’s phone. I’ve been looking at the 911 logs. Does anyone know who Cheyenne and JLR are? Says they were asked to leave as they kept driving by the scene. I believe I read nosy neighbors.
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Post by veggie on Oct 23, 2018 21:54:19 GMT -6
My cousin had an interesting theory I thought I would share. She speculates a family member has been inappropriate with Jayme (trying to put it mildly) and the mom confronted them, perhaps at the earlier function? That family member decides since they’ve been discovered, they kill the parents and take Jayme.
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Post by peachtree on Oct 23, 2018 22:35:08 GMT -6
My cousin had an interesting theory I thought I would share. She speculates a family member has been inappropriate with Jayme (trying to put it mildly) and the mom confronted them, perhaps at the earlier function? That family member decides since they’ve been discovered, they kill the parents and take Jayme. So a few years ago something g like that happened in California. A family friend becomes obsessed with the teenage daughter. I can’t remember the details but I believe he burned down the family home and took the girl to the Idaho wilderness and was found a few weeks later and killed by the FBI while the girl was standing there. It really makes me think of this case. The main difference was massive amber alerts all the way from California to Montana because they had some clue (maybe credit card purchases?) that made them think he had taken her camping and intended to stay hidden. She was a very unwilling participant in the whole thing but he believed she loved him back. Edit to add link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Hannah_Anderson
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Post by Pistol on Oct 24, 2018 5:02:56 GMT -6
My cousin had an interesting theory I thought I would share. She speculates a family member has been inappropriate with Jayme (trying to put it mildly) and the mom confronted them, perhaps at the earlier function? That family member decides since they’ve been discovered, they kill the parents and take Jayme. This had crossed my mind and would be about the only explanation that I can come up with for her to not be involved and still alive.
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Post by kmkd on Oct 24, 2018 6:48:51 GMT -6
Tlex.... I see an opening for us here. You too, McBenny . omg I am here for it. What do we do? Start our own shit? Send me a link for the go fund me. Would contribute.
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Post by willow on Oct 24, 2018 6:56:26 GMT -6
It seems like dad would’ve been home for a lot longer. Though maybe he went out for drinks after work and got home late. Or works a second shift job? The reddit page with the Barron native said as far as he knew, both of the parents worked 1st shift so they were home by 3pm usually. He based this info on what he knew from friends that worked at Jennie-o also. I am definitely curious what direction they went with the getaway car (I also don’t believe there was any ATV involved). Out there it would be so easy to drive away and not be seen. There are so many back roads and none of those roads would be heavily populated with cars at that time. I’ve driven them many times, you’d be more likely to hit a deer before see many other cars on the road that late.
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Post by klong11 on Oct 24, 2018 9:00:41 GMT -6
There will be a news briefing at 4pm today.
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Post by veggie on Oct 24, 2018 9:40:52 GMT -6
My cousin had an interesting theory I thought I would share. She speculates a family member has been inappropriate with Jayme (trying to put it mildly) and the mom confronted them, perhaps at the earlier function? That family member decides since they’ve been discovered, they kill the parents and take Jayme. This had crossed my mind and would be about the only explanation that I can come up with for her to not be involved and still alive. Yes and it also perhaps explains a reason why the authorities are being so vague. Like they know who has her (uncle? family friend?) but don't want to let on that they know. Doesn't really explain why they want to talk to random people in those 2 cars, though. If they have a suspect, one would think they have a vehicle description.
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Post by Pistol on Oct 24, 2018 9:41:18 GMT -6
There will be a news briefing at 4pm today. I need someone to liveblog it. I don’t know if I’ll be able to watch.
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Post by Pistol on Oct 24, 2018 9:43:05 GMT -6
This had crossed my mind and would be about the only explanation that I can come up with for her to not be involved and still alive. Yes and it also perhaps explains a reason why the authorities are being so vague. Like they know who has her (uncle? family friend?) but don't want to let on that they know. Doesn't really explain why they want to talk to random people in those 2 cars, though. If they have a suspect, one would think they have a vehicle description. Perhaps looking for witnesses? Or possibly just covering all bases?
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Post by Cher on Oct 24, 2018 9:44:17 GMT -6
I would think if they knew who had her, there would be a manhunt right now, not asking 2,000 people to search a field.
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Post by CestLaVie on Oct 24, 2018 9:51:21 GMT -6
I would think if they knew who had her, there would be a manhunt right now, not asking 2,000 people to search a field. Agreed. I don't think we have a let them dig their own grave type of situation with a missing kid. It could only help to have everyone know who they are looking for so I don't think they know exactly who.
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Post by Tlex on Oct 24, 2018 9:54:11 GMT -6
There will be a news briefing at 4pm today. I will hope for a new development but there has been a 4 pm daily briefing since she disappeared so could just be the standard one
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Post by Pistol on Oct 24, 2018 9:57:52 GMT -6
Everyone keeps saying that if she was talking to someone we would know but is there a way to track cell phone usage (apps, websites, etc) without physically having the phone? I guess apps yes because you just need into their App Store (google play for the androids) account to see what has been downloaded. But websites? Is that something the phone company would have access to? If they took her and her phone (remove the battery to prevent tracking) then we may not be able to know if she’s been talking to anyone sketchy.
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Post by bubblefan on Oct 24, 2018 10:25:10 GMT -6
The most “exciting” thing that has been posted is Tlex picture of the Uncle’s car. This is what I keep coming back to—if the picture is legit, it is way too much of a coincidence, right?
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Post by peachtree on Oct 24, 2018 10:27:06 GMT -6
Everyone keeps saying that if she was talking to someone we would know but is there a way to track cell phone usage (apps, websites, etc) without physically having the phone? I guess apps yes because you just need into their App Store (google play for the androids) account to see what has been downloaded. But websites? Is that something the phone company would have access to? If they took her and her phone (remove the battery to prevent tracking) then we may not be able to know if she’s been talking to anyone sketchy. I believe the cell phone carrier would have info of numbers called and texted. Not sure if the company would just willingly hand it over or not?
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Post by PandaWatch on Oct 24, 2018 10:31:29 GMT -6
Everyone keeps saying that if she was talking to someone we would know but is there a way to track cell phone usage (apps, websites, etc) without physically having the phone? I guess apps yes because you just need into their App Store (google play for the androids) account to see what has been downloaded. But websites? Is that something the phone company would have access to? If they took her and her phone (remove the battery to prevent tracking) then we may not be able to know if she’s been talking to anyone sketchy. I believe the cell phone carrier would have info of numbers called and texted. Not sure if the company would just willingly hand it over or not? Even if the co. doesn’t/can’t turn it over willingly, the police could subpoena or get a warrant for the records if they have to.
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Post by Tlex on Oct 24, 2018 10:33:54 GMT -6
www.reddit.com/r/JaymeCloss/comments/9qta6f/the_1996_disappearance_of_sara_bushland_spooner/Summary: two relatively nearby girls went missing 5 months apart, turned up murdered later. Both similar in looks to Jayme. They had an over lapping friend group so it’s theorized someone from their group might be responsible, he would have likely been in his 20s then, 40s now. It’s been 20 years but some serial killers have taken very long breaks to raise families etc.
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Post by Tlex on Oct 24, 2018 10:35:06 GMT -6
Everyone keeps saying that if she was talking to someone we would know but is there a way to track cell phone usage (apps, websites, etc) without physically having the phone? I guess apps yes because you just need into their App Store (google play for the androids) account to see what has been downloaded. But websites? Is that something the phone company would have access to? If they took her and her phone (remove the battery to prevent tracking) then we may not be able to know if she’s been talking to anyone sketchy. I believe the cell phone carrier would have info of numbers called and texted. Not sure if the company would just willingly hand it over or not? This kind of info is generally given by carriers without any fuss at all, usually within the same day. It’s issues like jailbreaking the phone where Apple has come between law enforcement and privacy.
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Post by emma on Oct 24, 2018 10:36:53 GMT -6
Everyone keeps saying that if she was talking to someone we would know but is there a way to track cell phone usage (apps, websites, etc) without physically having the phone? I guess apps yes because you just need into their App Store (google play for the androids) account to see what has been downloaded. But websites? Is that something the phone company would have access to? If they took her and her phone (remove the battery to prevent tracking) then we may not be able to know if she’s been talking to anyone sketchy. if it's some kind of app then yes because her account information is stored somewhere and most interactions are stored in a DB. Not the actual text but the basic information of the transaction like to-from, time, date etc... So they just need to find out what apps she uses and go from there. I'm guessing friends would be able to supply that info.
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Post by emma on Oct 24, 2018 10:38:37 GMT -6
www.reddit.com/r/JaymeCloss/comments/9qta6f/the_1996_disappearance_of_sara_bushland_spooner/Summary: two relatively nearby girls went missing 5 months apart, turned up murdered later. Both similar in looks to Jayme. They had an over lapping friend group so it’s theorized someone from their group might be responsible, he would have likely been in his 20s then, 40s now. It’s been 20 years but some serial killers have taken very long breaks to raise families etc. ooooohhhhh.....
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Post by peachtree on Oct 24, 2018 10:49:48 GMT -6
I believe the cell phone carrier would have info of numbers called and texted. Not sure if the company would just willingly hand it over or not? This kind of info is generally given by carriers without any fuss at all, usually within the same day. It’s issues like jailbreaking the phone where Apple has come between law enforcement and privacy. Yeah that's what I wasn't sure of if the carriers were like Apple at all.
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Post by Cher on Oct 24, 2018 10:51:40 GMT -6
www.reddit.com/r/JaymeCloss/comments/9qta6f/the_1996_disappearance_of_sara_bushland_spooner/Summary: two relatively nearby girls went missing 5 months apart, turned up murdered later. Both similar in looks to Jayme. They had an over lapping friend group so it’s theorized someone from their group might be responsible, he would have likely been in his 20s then, 40s now. It’s been 20 years but some serial killers have taken very long breaks to raise families etc. Interesting. Both seemed to vanish though. Neither were taken in such a dramatic way. If this guy is coming back to his serial killer life, he’s making a grand entrance.
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