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Post by ladynemesis on Jun 2, 2017 8:00:52 GMT -6
We don't bash each others' already named kids. We just give opinions, and you can take them or leave them. I don't take it as a personal attack that some people don't like my son's name. You do you, and I'll do me. We just bash others kids names. As long as their moms don't post here. Got it. Historically, I think we've generally felt free, in the course of critiquing posters' name lists (such as in a Keep, Toss, Add post), to be pretty frank with our opinions, even if we happen to know that someone on the board has a child with that same name. If someone responded to a post like that and put Aurora or Rose in the toss pile, I wouldn't be offended (I'd obviously disagree internally, but they aren't attacking my children, they're just helping the original poster by offering their opinion).
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Jun 2, 2017 10:42:43 GMT -6
Historically, I think we've generally felt free, in the course of critiquing posters' name lists (such as in a Keep, Toss, Add post), to be pretty frank with our opinions, even if we happen to know that someone on the board has a child with that same name. If someone responded to a post like that and put Aurora or Rose in the toss pile, I wouldn't be offended (I'd obviously disagree internally, but they aren't attacking my children, they're just helping the original poster by offering their opinion). I don't think the KTA posts are as much of an issue for some as THIS thread for the specific purpose of L[ing]OL and mocking others' IRL baby name choices. Asking for a collective opinion initiates the conversation and opens the door for comment. Posting in this thread there's no such agreement. The playground mom who chose a name I might never has no idea she's being whispered about. And let's not forget that this particular argument started with a racist urban legend about a "made-up" name. The La-Dash-A "joke" is 100% not the same thing as "OMG Finley on a *girl*? Well I never!"
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Post by ladynemesis on Jun 2, 2017 14:03:38 GMT -6
Anyways, not seen on social media, but irl I met the mother of a Leander and I was filled with admiration.
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Post by oliversbear on Jun 2, 2017 20:19:57 GMT -6
Anyways, not seen on social media, but irl I met the mother of a Leander and I was filled with admiration. I've known several Leanders, but then it's not an uncommon name where I grew up. The guard dogs at my high school were Hero & Leander, correct genders based on the myth as well. I always thought it was an interesting set of names for the pair of dogs and that the nun in charge of security was an unusually cool nun.
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Post by cnf on Jun 3, 2017 10:44:29 GMT -6
Not on social media, but when my son was in the NICU, next to him was a premie named La-a (pronounced La Dash Ah) - every single day the doctors did rounds and would laugh at this poor child's name 🤦♀️ I had a guest speaker in my room ask me if I've had a student by this name yet given I teach in the inner city. It took all my might not to chuck a book at him.
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Post by otters on Jun 3, 2017 23:31:22 GMT -6
Fin.ley Sky.lar - girl Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk are you and ladynemesis friends of friends, or are there two little girls named Finley running around? 2016 data isn't compiled by spelling yet, but for 2015 births when organized by spelling it was ranked #192 for girls. Spellings with the number born in 2015: Finley (1598), Finnley (170), Finleigh (109), Finlee (68), Fynlee (24), Finnleigh (23), Phinley (14), Fynnlee (12), Finnlee (11), Fynleigh (11), Finlay (10), Findley (9), Fynnley (7), Findlay (6), Finnly (5), Fynlie (5), Fynley (5)
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Post by otters on Jun 4, 2017 0:09:28 GMT -6
And some of the people doing the snickering are in education I feel sorry for their students. (And I'm not being sarcastic) I think it comes down to how you view names. For some people, a person is their name so by saying something bad about that name you're offending that person. Others just see a name as one aspect. My mom was a teacher for many years and there are plenty of names she hates. That doesn't mean she ever treated those students in a different manner or viewed them as less than other students.
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Post by otters on Jun 4, 2017 4:46:53 GMT -6
I think it comes down to how you view names. For some people, a person is their name so by saying something bad about that name you're offending that person. Others just see a name as one aspect. My mom was a teacher for many years and there are plenty of names she hates. That doesn't mean she ever treated those students in a different manner or viewed them as less than other students. Did your mom run to a message board to snicker about her students names? It all boils down to this thread and it's purpose of making fun of names that are different. No, but I would think sharing irl is much riskier than on a message board where no one knows who/where you are, so it's pretty hard to identify who is being talked about. Especially since many of the names posted, like Finley on a girl, aren't rare. However, people are more sensitive on non-naming sites, so I do understand these discussions are more likely to cause upset because a family member/friend/coworker's name is mentioned. ETA: My sleep-deprived brain is trying to explain in the last sentence that it may not be the best thread for this type of site.
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Post by ladynemesis on Jun 4, 2017 9:50:13 GMT -6
I mean, name your kid all the "classic" and "traditional" names you want, but what is the purpose of making fun of people's name choices? Why long ass paragraphs to excuse jerk behavior? Names are such a personal thing. I'm rolling my eyes at settings kids for success based on giving them "classic/traditional" names. We need to stop perpetuating the lie of unhireability here. It's classist and wrong. I'd be kicked off this board in a hot second. Both of my kids are nickname names. And I didn't need anyone to explain it to me either. I don't know what form being "kicked off this board" would take, but, no, you wouldn't be. I mean, it doesn't sound as though you would be likely to come here asking for naming advice, but you are more than welcome to give it to other people. You'd be more than welcome to ask for it, too. And if you were fine with nns as formal names, and knew that they were nns before you gave them, then great. A lot of people who come here asking about a name don't realize that it would be giving a nn as a formal name. We let them know, they make an informed choice. I have some in-laws who named two of their kids J.ack and Jo.hn respectively without realizing that the former was a nn for the latter. They realized this later (not through me telling them) and have expressed some regret. Also, disclaimer for my feedback, I literally spent about twelve years studying Classics, so, yeah, I'm obsessed with names that stem from classical mythology. I'm also a polyglot, so I have more knowledge of and familiarity with names that have their origins in the languages I've studied (which are numerous, but almost exclusively IE, so that limits my ability to provide meaningful information on spelling and transliteration conventions in non-IE languages). I feel more comfortable providing feedback on subjects of which I have a strong understanding and recommending names the histories of which I know. For example, I adore the name Myrrha (probably my favorite name ever), but I also know that in mythology Myrrha was in an incestuous relationship with her father, so I hesitate to recommend it to someone who might not realize the mythological connotations. If someone comes on the board (and this has definitely happened), asking which names we prefer from a list of names from an African or Asian language, all I can meaningfully do is say which name sounds the most pleasing to my ears, because I don't know the cultural connotations that a given name might have. I always, always take it as a given that the person presenting the names knows better about how these names are spelled and pronounced than I do, and I would never think to question the spelling or punctuation of a name like that. None of this is to say that the issue of micro-aggression that you and others have raised isn't legit (it isn't my place to even assess its legitimacy), but I'm just trying to clarify some of why I, and a number of other regulars, tend to recommend names of a more classical and European variety.
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Post by miawallace on Jun 4, 2017 11:13:16 GMT -6
I'm not against the board, for the record, it's THIS thread. The "as seen on social media" thread. I understand people come here for advice. That's cool. No one is begrudging that. I am not against that at all. Im glad they have someone with that much knowledge in the subject. It's the nature of making fun or scoffing at people's name choices in THIS thread that is irking me. I don't understand why that is hard to understand.
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Post by briarrose on Jun 5, 2017 19:15:36 GMT -6
That's the one that bothers you most? Not GENERAL? Its not a name, its just letters. And General is worse because their last name makes him a well known cereal company. Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
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Post by briarrose on Jun 5, 2017 19:19:02 GMT -6
I actually would use Winter if I could. I also love the name Frost but have an F last name. My style tends to go a little out there, but definitely not as out there as some of this stuff.
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Post by ladynemesis on Jul 8, 2017 20:19:05 GMT -6
A new friend of mine has kids with lovely names: Le.ander, Augu.st, and Ge.mma.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 21, 2017 8:39:39 GMT -6
Just ran across a girl named Kooper (siblings and mother's name also start with K).
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Post by oliversbear on Jul 21, 2017 17:59:42 GMT -6
Just ran across a girl named Kooper (siblings and mother's name also start with K). There are some themes I don't really mind all flower names, all president names, or something like that, and I have a guilty pleasure swoon for children named in alphabetical order. But I admit to looking askance at forcing the theme by changing the spelling. It's a follow-the-famous-for-being-famous kind of thing for me, especially with K or J names.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 22, 2017 11:02:34 GMT -6
Just ran across a girl named Kooper (siblings and mother's name also start with K). There are some themes I don't really mind all flower names, all president names, or something like that, and I have a guilty pleasure swoon for children named in alphabetical order. But I admit to looking askance at forcing the theme by changing the spelling. It's a follow-the-famous-for-being-famous kind of thing for me, especially with K or J names. If they had done a Katherine, or Kathy or something else I wouldn't be side-eyeing as much as I am. This just seems way too forced.
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Post by loony on Jul 22, 2017 21:37:05 GMT -6
A friend just named her girl Laila. Such a beautiful name, but it's pronounced "Lila". That poor girl is going to have to correct anyone who ever reads it printed.
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Post by yourpaceormine on Jul 23, 2017 10:28:31 GMT -6
FB post for a mommy group I'm on: b/g twins Girl- Len.non Boy- Ce.dar
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Post by hangry on Jul 23, 2017 16:54:14 GMT -6
A friend just named her girl Laila. Such a beautiful name, but it's pronounced "Lila". That poor girl is going to have to correct anyone who ever reads it printed. I know a Lei.la also pronounced "Lila". I was very confused when mom corrected me.
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Post by aprilz81 on Jul 23, 2017 18:10:21 GMT -6
A friend just named her girl Laila. Such a beautiful name, but it's pronounced "Lila". That poor girl is going to have to correct anyone who ever reads it printed. I know a Lei.la also pronounced "Lila". I was very confused when mom corrected me. I would be too! Those are two different names...
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