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Post by August Blooms on Jun 22, 2018 17:21:26 GMT -6
I’m just catching up on the last 24 hours... I was watching CNN yesterday when the anchor was talking about the potential for 20 000 children on military bases she almost started crying and it made me cry. These stories are just heartbreaking.
My MP finally answered, I haven’t had a chance to read over it since it’s pretty long.
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Jun 22, 2018 17:22:00 GMT -6
The amount of pure evil in this administration and associated with it is appalling.
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Post by allthedrinks on Jun 22, 2018 17:39:56 GMT -6
Well FFS. I just requested information on fostering with Bethany Ministries. Apparently I don’t internet research well. Had no idea of the De Vos connection.
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Post by elle on Jun 22, 2018 18:27:52 GMT -6
Well FFS. I just requested information on fostering with Bethany Ministries. Apparently I don’t internet research well. Had no idea of the De Vos connection. This actually seems like it could be an opportunity to question them about what steps they plan on taking to reunite the children with their parents. And how much they're getting from the government per child. I bet others here can come up with some more questions. |
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Post by allthedrinks on Jun 22, 2018 18:39:05 GMT -6
elle Very good point. And any other suggestions are welcome. We discussed this as not being a disaster response but something we’ve always wanted to do.
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Trump has been talking to families of people who have had loved ones killed by undocumented immigrants, saying they are permanently separated families the media ignores: NOT. THE. SAME. THING. There’s also a lot of families permanently separated by gun violence and mass shootings but I’m pretty sure Trump doesn’t want to talk about those families. |
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Post by elle on Jun 22, 2018 23:35:33 GMT -6
Copied from Facebook so those who don't have it can still read and spoilered because long: Leslie Lausch checked in to Bethany Refugee & Immigrant Services.
7 hrs · Grand Rapids, MI
I just left this place after reading that it was one of the facilities contracted w/ by US Gov to house migrant children separated from their parents when crossing the border. This is not an option piece, just want to write down what happened, questions I asked and the answers they gave as well as the manner and overall impression visiting this place did to me.
First of all I arrived at 4:30pm, unannounced. I met a young poc in the parking lot who said he has been working here for 3mo but doesn’t know much. He suggested I go inside and ask detailed questions. He did confirm that this place cares for children separated from their parents as well as “unaccompanied minors” who are applying for asylum. He also mentioned that the amount of children arriving has grown exponentially since the “zero tolerance” policy took affect.
Inside the lobby I noticed several Muslims waiting in the lobby and who I assume was a social worker was speaking with them, it appeared civilized and the Muslim couple seemed content and the employee seemed kind and patient and answering questions.
The security/ receptionist at the desk was kind as well. I was honestly expecting to be thrown out or cops called or dumb threats made, but that didn’t happen. I was asked if I was thirsty and told that the I should either speak w/ the director of operations or the dept head who overseas the refugee children operations. So not a PR person. The guy came back and said both were in meetings and both were notified and to take a seat and wait, which I did. Soon after I was greeted and invited me to a conference room.
I introduced myself and told him who I was ie a nobody and just wanted to know better what’s happening from a ground zero location than all the stuff in the news. So I wasn’t a journalist, I wasn’t recording anything and I genuinely had questions.
Questions:
1. Is this really happening?
A. Yes.
2. Can you model a scenario of a minor coming across the border and ending up here, like what is that child’s experience from point A B & C?
A. There are several classifications. 1. Unaccompanied minors are under 18 and either making the trip on their own, human trafficked or their parents dies en route.... in the case of an accompanied minor, since the new policies, children would be separated from their parents, even infants and put into holding. Then they would be selected and moved to any number of facilities nationwide, thisnbeing one of them. And he made it clear that he himself doesn’t really know what happens before they get here and that the logistics are “crazy” atm. If the minor is unaccompanied and older, they may be held in detention and prosecuted as a misdemeanor, to the best of his understanding.
3. What happens to children here?
A. We have staff here to care for these children as best we can and look to place them into temporary foster care IF we can’t reunite them with their family and/or find US residents who are family and who will take them into their care.
4. So the kids and their parents are accounted for? Like they get a number and can be tracked and reunited?
A. No. It’s complete chaos. Kids at either too young or can’t speak English or even know what’s going on and records are haphazard. It takes a lot of effort to locate who their parents are and reunite them. Same with finding out if they have family already in the US. The more info the child knows like a phone number, names etc the easier, but that is often not the case.
5. So those kids get sent to a foster family?
A. Yes, if we can find a suitable host.
6. Are you Christian organisation?
A. We are a Christian organization but not faith based, like an Evangelical. We do not have any policy to convert Muslim children and we require any foster families to respect the religious affiliation. There is no bible study or religious schooling while children are in care here. We work with Muslim refugee children and foster families but most foster families are Christians.
7. Are you run by or affiliated with Betsy Davos?
A. No. That is rumor. I don’t even think we ever received donations and she has nothing to do with this facility. I read that Micheal Moore post too, and I like him, but you know he can be flamboyant sometimes and it really just isn’t true.
8. Do you take money from the Gov?
A. Yes. We get money from donations, through some fee based services, so like some counseling and therapies and such that can billes to someone’s insurance, we provide those services and then we also contract with the Gov who pays for the children their policies send here.
9. Was there a noticeable difference in terms of numbers from the Obama Admin Vs Trump admin?
A. Yes. We had children arrive here under Obama but they were mostly “unaccompanied minors” not children and infants separated from their parents. That is a weird interpretation of Flores and a “zero tolerance” policy I don’t necessarily agree with. In the past month we’ve had a lot of politicians from both orties calling and wanting to know what’s happening, seems like nobody really knows, even the ones making the policy, like they might have an ideology about the policies but I don’t think they even thought it through like what the damage is, like the trauma a child will face could scar them for life. So even the ones who you’d think wouldn’t be concerned seem to be concerned, just ignorant.
10. So how did the Obama admin handle families under Flores?
A. You know because of all this I had very similar questions and obviously I have a lot of conservatives on my FB so I’m trying to collect the info on this, but here is what I understand and I’m no expert. Until 2014 a court ruling required children be separated from adults and children couldn’t be detained. Obama may have held some children separate from their parents because the ruling didn’t acknowledge that there are “Adults” and there a children’s parents who happen to be adults, so what we all call families. Anyway, Obama admin didn’t seem to focus on families and just released them and depending on the arrangement would either deport them as a family or find family members willing to become guardians of these children while their parents were in detention. And I want say, despite some media reports, a very high number of these children returned to courts to check in and so were not processed as misdemeanors. The ones who didn’t have US family would be “caught and released.” Unaccompanied minors would be held, but technically not in a detention center even though they pretty much were cages and eventually brought here or to a similar facility and we were charged with taking care of them and finding them a foster family until they receive asylum status.
11. I have to ask. Are a Trump supporter?
A. Laughs. I wouldn’t say that, no. I don’t think most people here are or were but I don’t really know. I do want to say that we had a lot of internal debate at the onset, there are 2 schools of thought: 1. Be a bandaids on a gaping wound and just focus on the infants and children whom need attention now or if none of these facilities accepted any of these children the system wouldn’t know how to handle them. I just don’t think any of us could shut our doors to the children who shouldn’t suffer for a political movement to happen. There are no right answers.
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Post by sheilathetank on Jun 23, 2018 5:50:55 GMT -6
Copied from Facebook so those who don't have it can still read and spoilered because long: Leslie Lausch checked in to Bethany Refugee & Immigrant Services.
7 hrs · Grand Rapids, MI
I just left this place after reading that it was one of the facilities contracted w/ by US Gov to house migrant children separated from their parents when crossing the border. This is not an option piece, just want to write down what happened, questions I asked and the answers they gave as well as the manner and overall impression visiting this place did to me.
First of all I arrived at 4:30pm, unannounced. I met a young poc in the parking lot who said he has been working here for 3mo but doesn’t know much. He suggested I go inside and ask detailed questions. He did confirm that this place cares for children separated from their parents as well as “unaccompanied minors” who are applying for asylum. He also mentioned that the amount of children arriving has grown exponentially since the “zero tolerance” policy took affect.
Inside the lobby I noticed several Muslims waiting in the lobby and who I assume was a social worker was speaking with them, it appeared civilized and the Muslim couple seemed content and the employee seemed kind and patient and answering questions.
The security/ receptionist at the desk was kind as well. I was honestly expecting to be thrown out or cops called or dumb threats made, but that didn’t happen. I was asked if I was thirsty and told that the I should either speak w/ the director of operations or the dept head who overseas the refugee children operations. So not a PR person. The guy came back and said both were in meetings and both were notified and to take a seat and wait, which I did. Soon after I was greeted and invited me to a conference room.
I introduced myself and told him who I was ie a nobody and just wanted to know better what’s happening from a ground zero location than all the stuff in the news. So I wasn’t a journalist, I wasn’t recording anything and I genuinely had questions.
Questions:
1. Is this really happening?
A. Yes.
2. Can you model a scenario of a minor coming across the border and ending up here, like what is that child’s experience from point A B & C?
A. There are several classifications. 1. Unaccompanied minors are under 18 and either making the trip on their own, human trafficked or their parents dies en route.... in the case of an accompanied minor, since the new policies, children would be separated from their parents, even infants and put into holding. Then they would be selected and moved to any number of facilities nationwide, thisnbeing one of them. And he made it clear that he himself doesn’t really know what happens before they get here and that the logistics are “crazy” atm. If the minor is unaccompanied and older, they may be held in detention and prosecuted as a misdemeanor, to the best of his understanding.
3. What happens to children here?
A. We have staff here to care for these children as best we can and look to place them into temporary foster care IF we can’t reunite them with their family and/or find US residents who are family and who will take them into their care.
4. So the kids and their parents are accounted for? Like they get a number and can be tracked and reunited?
A. No. It’s complete chaos. Kids at either too young or can’t speak English or even know what’s going on and records are haphazard. It takes a lot of effort to locate who their parents are and reunite them. Same with finding out if they have family already in the US. The more info the child knows like a phone number, names etc the easier, but that is often not the case.
5. So those kids get sent to a foster family?
A. Yes, if we can find a suitable host.
6. Are you Christian organisation?
A. We are a Christian organization but not faith based, like an Evangelical. We do not have any policy to convert Muslim children and we require any foster families to respect the religious affiliation. There is no bible study or religious schooling while children are in care here. We work with Muslim refugee children and foster families but most foster families are Christians.
7. Are you run by or affiliated with Betsy Davos?
A. No. That is rumor. I don’t even think we ever received donations and she has nothing to do with this facility. I read that Micheal Moore post too, and I like him, but you know he can be flamboyant sometimes and it really just isn’t true.
8. Do you take money from the Gov?
A. Yes. We get money from donations, through some fee based services, so like some counseling and therapies and such that can billes to someone’s insurance, we provide those services and then we also contract with the Gov who pays for the children their policies send here.
9. Was there a noticeable difference in terms of numbers from the Obama Admin Vs Trump admin?
A. Yes. We had children arrive here under Obama but they were mostly “unaccompanied minors” not children and infants separated from their parents. That is a weird interpretation of Flores and a “zero tolerance” policy I don’t necessarily agree with. In the past month we’ve had a lot of politicians from both orties calling and wanting to know what’s happening, seems like nobody really knows, even the ones making the policy, like they might have an ideology about the policies but I don’t think they even thought it through like what the damage is, like the trauma a child will face could scar them for life. So even the ones who you’d think wouldn’t be concerned seem to be concerned, just ignorant.
10. So how did the Obama admin handle families under Flores?
A. You know because of all this I had very similar questions and obviously I have a lot of conservatives on my FB so I’m trying to collect the info on this, but here is what I understand and I’m no expert. Until 2014 a court ruling required children be separated from adults and children couldn’t be detained. Obama may have held some children separate from their parents because the ruling didn’t acknowledge that there are “Adults” and there a children’s parents who happen to be adults, so what we all call families. Anyway, Obama admin didn’t seem to focus on families and just released them and depending on the arrangement would either deport them as a family or find family members willing to become guardians of these children while their parents were in detention. And I want say, despite some media reports, a very high number of these children returned to courts to check in and so were not processed as misdemeanors. The ones who didn’t have US family would be “caught and released.” Unaccompanied minors would be held, but technically not in a detention center even though they pretty much were cages and eventually brought here or to a similar facility and we were charged with taking care of them and finding them a foster family until they receive asylum status.
11. I have to ask. Are a Trump supporter?
A. Laughs. I wouldn’t say that, no. I don’t think most people here are or were but I don’t really know. I do want to say that we had a lot of internal debate at the onset, there are 2 schools of thought: 1. Be a bandaids on a gaping wound and just focus on the infants and children whom need attention now or if none of these facilities accepted any of these children the system wouldn’t know how to handle them. I just don’t think any of us could shut our doors to the children who shouldn’t suffer for a political movement to happen. There are no right answers.
And that was that. Is there a source other than Facebook for this interview? I don't fb, so I'm unsure if this was just shared or if this is directly taken from her page. |
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Post by dc2london on Jun 23, 2018 7:10:17 GMT -6
GFDI IT'S ALWAYS THE GODDAMN DEVOS PEOPLE
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Post by dc2london on Jun 23, 2018 7:11:27 GMT -6
The DeVos family having these babies makes me feel sick. I can pretty much guaran-damn-tee you the plan is to "save" these babies by adopting them out to white Christian (conservative) people. No records are being kept and many of these kids are babies/toddlers and far too young to remember details about their real families. And with ones so young, do they even know their correct names or are the foster families/agencies coming up with "temporary" names for these kids? I'm so angry and heartsick over it all. My H went to college in Grand Rapids and as soon as I pointed out to him that a ton of these kids seem to be going there he said, "Oh yeah some right wing white people mega church is telling families to take these kids in and turn them into more extremist right wing Bible thumpers." I told him he was being cynical. Oh, me. |
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Post by elle on Jun 23, 2018 9:33:53 GMT -6
Copied from Facebook so those who don't have it can still read and spoilered because long: Leslie Lausch checked in to Bethany Refugee & Immigrant Services.
7 hrs · Grand Rapids, MI
I just left this place after reading that it was one of the facilities contracted w/ by US Gov to house migrant children separated from their parents when crossing the border. This is not an option piece, just want to write down what happened, questions I asked and the answers they gave as well as the manner and overall impression visiting this place did to me.
First of all I arrived at 4:30pm, unannounced. I met a young poc in the parking lot who said he has been working here for 3mo but doesn’t know much. He suggested I go inside and ask detailed questions. He did confirm that this place cares for children separated from their parents as well as “unaccompanied minors” who are applying for asylum. He also mentioned that the amount of children arriving has grown exponentially since the “zero tolerance” policy took affect.
Inside the lobby I noticed several Muslims waiting in the lobby and who I assume was a social worker was speaking with them, it appeared civilized and the Muslim couple seemed content and the employee seemed kind and patient and answering questions.
The security/ receptionist at the desk was kind as well. I was honestly expecting to be thrown out or cops called or dumb threats made, but that didn’t happen. I was asked if I was thirsty and told that the I should either speak w/ the director of operations or the dept head who overseas the refugee children operations. So not a PR person. The guy came back and said both were in meetings and both were notified and to take a seat and wait, which I did. Soon after I was greeted and invited me to a conference room.
I introduced myself and told him who I was ie a nobody and just wanted to know better what’s happening from a ground zero location than all the stuff in the news. So I wasn’t a journalist, I wasn’t recording anything and I genuinely had questions.
Questions:
1. Is this really happening?
A. Yes.
2. Can you model a scenario of a minor coming across the border and ending up here, like what is that child’s experience from point A B & C?
A. There are several classifications. 1. Unaccompanied minors are under 18 and either making the trip on their own, human trafficked or their parents dies en route.... in the case of an accompanied minor, since the new policies, children would be separated from their parents, even infants and put into holding. Then they would be selected and moved to any number of facilities nationwide, thisnbeing one of them. And he made it clear that he himself doesn’t really know what happens before they get here and that the logistics are “crazy” atm. If the minor is unaccompanied and older, they may be held in detention and prosecuted as a misdemeanor, to the best of his understanding.
3. What happens to children here?
A. We have staff here to care for these children as best we can and look to place them into temporary foster care IF we can’t reunite them with their family and/or find US residents who are family and who will take them into their care.
4. So the kids and their parents are accounted for? Like they get a number and can be tracked and reunited?
A. No. It’s complete chaos. Kids at either too young or can’t speak English or even know what’s going on and records are haphazard. It takes a lot of effort to locate who their parents are and reunite them. Same with finding out if they have family already in the US. The more info the child knows like a phone number, names etc the easier, but that is often not the case.
5. So those kids get sent to a foster family?
A. Yes, if we can find a suitable host.
6. Are you Christian organisation?
A. We are a Christian organization but not faith based, like an Evangelical. We do not have any policy to convert Muslim children and we require any foster families to respect the religious affiliation. There is no bible study or religious schooling while children are in care here. We work with Muslim refugee children and foster families but most foster families are Christians.
7. Are you run by or affiliated with Betsy Davos?
A. No. That is rumor. I don’t even think we ever received donations and she has nothing to do with this facility. I read that Micheal Moore post too, and I like him, but you know he can be flamboyant sometimes and it really just isn’t true.
8. Do you take money from the Gov?
A. Yes. We get money from donations, through some fee based services, so like some counseling and therapies and such that can billes to someone’s insurance, we provide those services and then we also contract with the Gov who pays for the children their policies send here.
9. Was there a noticeable difference in terms of numbers from the Obama Admin Vs Trump admin?
A. Yes. We had children arrive here under Obama but they were mostly “unaccompanied minors” not children and infants separated from their parents. That is a weird interpretation of Flores and a “zero tolerance” policy I don’t necessarily agree with. In the past month we’ve had a lot of politicians from both orties calling and wanting to know what’s happening, seems like nobody really knows, even the ones making the policy, like they might have an ideology about the policies but I don’t think they even thought it through like what the damage is, like the trauma a child will face could scar them for life. So even the ones who you’d think wouldn’t be concerned seem to be concerned, just ignorant.
10. So how did the Obama admin handle families under Flores?
A. You know because of all this I had very similar questions and obviously I have a lot of conservatives on my FB so I’m trying to collect the info on this, but here is what I understand and I’m no expert. Until 2014 a court ruling required children be separated from adults and children couldn’t be detained. Obama may have held some children separate from their parents because the ruling didn’t acknowledge that there are “Adults” and there a children’s parents who happen to be adults, so what we all call families. Anyway, Obama admin didn’t seem to focus on families and just released them and depending on the arrangement would either deport them as a family or find family members willing to become guardians of these children while their parents were in detention. And I want say, despite some media reports, a very high number of these children returned to courts to check in and so were not processed as misdemeanors. The ones who didn’t have US family would be “caught and released.” Unaccompanied minors would be held, but technically not in a detention center even though they pretty much were cages and eventually brought here or to a similar facility and we were charged with taking care of them and finding them a foster family until they receive asylum status.
11. I have to ask. Are a Trump supporter?
A. Laughs. I wouldn’t say that, no. I don’t think most people here are or were but I don’t really know. I do want to say that we had a lot of internal debate at the onset, there are 2 schools of thought: 1. Be a bandaids on a gaping wound and just focus on the infants and children whom need attention now or if none of these facilities accepted any of these children the system wouldn’t know how to handle them. I just don’t think any of us could shut our doors to the children who shouldn’t suffer for a political movement to happen. There are no right answers.
And that was that. Is there a source other than Facebook for this interview? I don't fb, so I'm unsure if this was just shared or if this is directly taken from her page. Posted directly to his page, a friend of good friends of mine. |
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Post by elle on Jun 23, 2018 9:36:52 GMT -6
I can pretty much guaran-damn-tee you the plan is to "save" these babies by adopting them out to white Christian (conservative) people. No records are being kept and many of these kids are babies/toddlers and far too young to remember details about their real families. And with ones so young, do they even know their correct names or are the foster families/agencies coming up with "temporary" names for these kids? I'm so angry and heartsick over it all. My H went to college in Grand Rapids and as soon as I pointed out to him that a ton of these kids seem to be going there he said, "Oh yeah some right wing white people mega church is telling families to take these kids in and turn them into more extremist right wing Bible thumpers." I told him he was being cynical. Oh, me. Yeah, I think it's very telling that Trump has been talking a lot about undocumented people coming here and voting for Democrats. Interesting that that's a major concern. Stealing the children would definitely be a way to try to make more conservatives. Ugh, I feel sick just thinking about those poor children losing their families and their real histories. 💔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 10:30:09 GMT -6
My tin foil hat is securely strapped on right now, but also note that domestic adoptions have been dropping a lot over the last decade (due to many factors, but this is positive - less unplanned pregnancies) and international adoptions have dropped to a mere trickle of what they once were. So white, Christian saviors need a new pipeline of children to adopt under god’s plan.
And, just to be clear, I’m not anti adoption. I just know too much about the corruption in the system to not see these issues hiding under the surface.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 15:02:07 GMT -6
I just watched a press conference from the congressional delegation that toured one of the facilities in Texas today. (1) they said the separations have not stopped. Nothing has changed. My congresswoman said that. (2) they were not allowed to take in phones but they said if pictures were made public of what they saw, this would stop immediately. They described very bad conditions. As soon as the link is available, I will add it. www.facebook.com/JackieSpeier/videos/10156607237191977/ |
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 23, 2018 16:47:59 GMT -6
It's so gross to me how insidious some of the rhetoric is. For example, I saw several accusations of "virtue signaling" (exact phrase) directed at people opposed to the family separations, in completely separate, Facebook comment threads. You just know that phrase is getting thrown around on Breitbart or somewhere.
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Post by sheilathetank on Jun 23, 2018 16:51:44 GMT -6
It's so gross to me how insidious some of the rhetoric is. For example, I saw several accusations of "virtue signaling" (exact phrase) directed at people opposed to the family separations, in completely separate, Facebook comment threads. You just know that phrase is getting thrown around on Breitbart or somewhere. Wtf is virtue signaling? |
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 23, 2018 16:52:18 GMT -6
Oh my God. I just saw a video of Trump saying of South American refugees that it's Mexico's fault bc, and this is a direct quote, "They walk through Mexico like they're walking through Central Park."  Oh that’s where that came from. I’ve seen it repeated, but not quotes, several times in Facebook comments. Also DD is watching the incredible right now and that gif played almost in sync with that part of the movie on my tv. (I meant to quote this re. my rhetoric comment above.) |
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 23, 2018 16:53:45 GMT -6
It's so gross to me how insidious some of the rhetoric is. For example, I saw several accusations of "virtue signaling" (exact phrase) directed at people opposed to the family separations, in completely separate, Facebook comment threads. You just know that phrase is getting thrown around on Breitbart or somewhere. Wtf is virtue signaling? That is what I said, and why it stuck out to me when i saw it more than once. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Virtue%20Signalling |
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 23, 2018 16:55:12 GMT -6
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Post by Bookshelves on Jun 23, 2018 17:00:20 GMT -6
If you search it on Twitter, there are, like, a million hits.
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Post by cakewench on Jun 23, 2018 18:15:25 GMT -6
If you search it on Twitter, there are, like, a million hits. I feel like searching that term on twitter brings you to a wretched hive of scum and villainy that I have no desire to look at deeper. |
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Post by regal on Jun 23, 2018 18:35:03 GMT -6
Maybe my tin foil hat is too tight, but I've noticed that nothing related to the immigration issue makes it on to my news feed. I've made a few posts about it, and no one"likes" it, or makes a comment. I run in a pretty liberal crowd so it's pretty strange to me.
Just me? Is Zuckerberg messing around with us? Censorship?
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Post by misskilljoy on Jun 23, 2018 20:40:49 GMT -6
Maybe my tin foil hat is too tight, but I've noticed that nothing related to the immigration issue makes it on to my news feed. I've made a few posts about it, and no one"likes" it, or makes a comment. I run in a pretty liberal crowd so it's pretty strange to me. Just me? Is Zuckerberg messing around with us? Censorship? My posts last week were definitely getting noticed. One of them was shared almost 100 times between my friends and people I don't know, so people must have been seeing it. I haven't posted recently to know if there's been a change, though. And my circle is... VERY left wing and fairly political, so it could be that they're more likely to post/like/engage. |
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Maybe my tin foil hat is too tight, but I've noticed that nothing related to the immigration issue makes it on to my news feed. I've made a few posts about it, and no one"likes" it, or makes a comment. I run in a pretty liberal crowd so it's pretty strange to me. Just me? Is Zuckerberg messing around with us? Censorship? I feel like most of mine is immigration based. Not from friends but I see a lot |
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Post by athn64 on Jun 24, 2018 6:18:44 GMT -6
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byjove
Ruby
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Post by byjove on Jun 24, 2018 6:24:10 GMT -6
DD would never speak a single to word to a stranger. My 6-year-old is one of the few kids I can think of who would, if not be fine, then at least make the best of it. My 2-year-old would be catatonic. He would just absolutely shut down. When I think about what would happen to him... it makes me want to round up every single person responsible for this situation and do something terrible to all of them. Slowly. I am with you on the 2 year old being catatonic. And she has severe food allergies and wouldn’t be able to eat 99% of the food I am sure they are serving. How many other children have hidden diseases like this that are being made sick by separation? |
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piratecat
Diamond
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Post by piratecat on Jun 24, 2018 8:37:43 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 10:51:50 GMT -6
This week’s Vice episode took a look at family separation that occurs when one parent is deported and the remaining parent is undocumented and stays with the citizen children. It’s hard to watch, but important. These citizen children are living in fear of their parent being deported and them either having to enter the foster care system or return to a country that is unsafe and foreign to them. They even showed a woman in Texas that has legal guardianship for something like 1,300 children just in case their parent gets deported so she can get the kids to relatives or some other place that keeps them out of the system. I’m glad she is there, but how utterly broken is the system that that’s the best option for these families.
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