Immigration thread

[sheilathetank]

Jun 21, 2018 20:08:47 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Early FFFC by two hours East coast time: since this immigration atrocity reached fever pitch, I've been letting the baby sleep with us. She just woke up saying, "Nononono no." She was having a bad dream.

It took me less than ten seconds to comfort her.

What's the similar story for kids whose parents have been deported?

This is what kills me. The little girl on the Times cover is DDs age. The thought of no one there to comfort, hug, cuddle, play, and hold her is beyond heartbreaking. That mother, and all the parents whose children have been taken from them, must be beside themselves. How in the world have we come to allow this?

[honeylemon]

Jun 21, 2018 20:05:29 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Jun 21, 2018 18:13:32 GMT -6 honeylemon said:

I’m going to a rally on the 30th and want to make posters with my kids this week. Any ideas on phrases to put on the posters?

Familiesbelong.org had lots of suggestions for posters before the previous rallies

Perfect. I hadn’t heard of that one yet. Thanks!

[sctiger]

I am having a hard time holding it together. We are going to the beach on Saturday and I feel horrible about going on vacation when all these people are suffering. This issue has gutted me unlike anything else. I kept hugging my girls today and my 5 year old said "mom I know you love me but you can't hug me all the time!"

[tallb]

Jun 21, 2018 20:44:38 GMT -6 sctiger said:

I am having a hard time holding it together. We are going to the beach on Saturday and I feel horrible about going on vacation when all these people are suffering. This issue has gutted me unlike anything else. I kept hugging my girls today and my 5 year old said "mom I know you love me but you can't hug me all the time!"

First off, the head of refugee resettlement went to his college reunion Saturday night..so if anyone should feel guilty about leaving town, it should be him.

Secondly, self-care is important. I'm trying to think that my morale outrage at an 11 all the time really is not solving anything, but the money I donated is. So I need to take the stress level down a notch before I get make myself sick and trust that these non-profits are saving our country. Enjoy your trip, I'd limit the news to a certain time a day so you are informed, but not so much that it ruins your trip. Have fun with your family.

[emilyinparis]

I just saw Melania's jacket on Twitter. Is this real?

[Deleted]

This article is from last year, but shows the money trail involved in this zero tolerance bullshit. Basically prison populations are down so we can start getting rid of for profit private prisons, those companies donate to Trump and magic they have a new revenue stream of the government paying them to indefinitely hold immigrants. 🤬

www.newsweek.com/geo-group-private-prisons-immigration-detention-trump-596505?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

[sherminator]

Jun 21, 2018 10:22:43 GMT -6 enchanted said:

Jun 21, 2018 10:16:41 GMT -6 jkjacq said:

OH FFS, they sent Melania down to the border

...

Yes, let's send someone whose family benefitted from "chain migration" to the people we refuse to let seek asylum and whose children we took away and now won't promise to return.

And I get that sending a First Lady can show empathy in a way. Like, Michelle Obama or Laura Bush would have been warm and sympathetic with the children and parents and honestly, I'm sure Melania could be as well, but FFS.

Every First Lady since Nancy Reagan has departed with husbands policy (no matter how vague) when it comes to separating families. Laura Bush, Babs, Hillary... everyone till Melania.

[misskilljoy]

No one feel bad for Zara. That's the company that used sweatshops to produce their clothes where unpaid workers (so... slaves) were stitching pleas for help into the clothing. Zara management doesn't care. They're probably high-fiving each other right now.

[dc2london]

Oh my God. I just saw a video of Trump saying of South American refugees that it's Mexico's fault bc, and this is a direct quote, "They walk through Mexico like they're walking through Central Park."

[enchanted]

That orange shit for brains tweeted that Congress needs to hold off on immigration until after the midterm elections.

[cakewench]

Fox News: It's OK because they're not Americans or white.

[sctiger]

www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/22/the-crying-honduran-girl-on-the-cover-of-time-was-not-separated-from-her-mother-father-says/?utm_term=.461ecafe85c8

Saw this update on the little Honduran girl. Turns out she and her mother were detained together. Now the right is claiming the photo as fake news and are talking about how the mother had been previously deported in 2013. Ugh. I hope they will be granted asylum at some point. That little girl is precious.

[jkjacq]

Jun 22, 2018 6:53:56 GMT -6 cakewench said:

Fox News: It's OK because they're not Americans or white.

yet

its not like hes doing it YET

[4PrivetDrive]

Jun 22, 2018 5:39:56 GMT -6 misskilljoy said:

No one feel bad for Zara. That's the company that used sweatshops to produce their clothes where unpaid workers (so... slaves) were stitching pleas for help into the clothing. Zara management doesn't care. They're probably high-fiving each other right now.

Big bag of dicks for Zara too. 

[sheilathetank]

Jun 22, 2018 6:57:35 GMT -6 sctiger said:

www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/22/the-crying-honduran-girl-on-the-cover-of-time-was-not-separated-from-her-mother-father-says/?utm_term=.461ecafe85c8

Saw this update on the little Honduran girl. Turns out she and her mother were detained together. Now the right is claiming the photo as fake news and are talking about how the mother had been previously deported in 2013. Ugh. I hope they will be granted asylum at some point. That little girl is precious.

If not separating a toddler from their mother is the litmus test we now use to determine whether we are the good guys in this situation, then we have truly lost any progress we have made as a society.

[dc2london]

Jun 22, 2018 6:53:56 GMT -6 cakewench said:

Fox News: It's OK because they're not Americans or white.

Uh huh.
Sure.

KIDS IN FLINT DON'T HAVE CLEAN WATER.

those are our kids but you DGAF, Fox News.

[JukEboX]

OK I am calling it. We are legitimately Nazi America. That's it I'm out. sheilathetank start looking for houses elsewhere. This place has had it.

Here's Why It's Entirely Appropriate to Compare Donald Trump to the Nazis

Unless there is something somewhere showing progress of fixing this. Alex Jones is always saying we are falling into a police state and what he fails to realize is that it's his party that is making it that way.

Everyone who supports this is complicit.

[Deleted]

I had a nightmare last night that my family was being sent to execution by Nazis. So that’s my subconscious trying to make sense of this total shit. Even it is screaming that this is feeling similar.

[Deleted]

Jun 22, 2018 7:24:27 GMT -6 sheilathetank said:

Jun 22, 2018 6:57:35 GMT -6 sctiger said:

www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/22/the-crying-honduran-girl-on-the-cover-of-time-was-not-separated-from-her-mother-father-says/?utm_term=.461ecafe85c8

Saw this update on the little Honduran girl. Turns out she and her mother were detained together. Now the right is claiming the photo as fake news and are talking about how the mother had been previously deported in 2013. Ugh. I hope they will be granted asylum at some point. That little girl is precious.

If not separating a toddler from their mother is the litmus test we now use to determine whether we are the good guys in this situation, then we have truly lost any progress we have made as a society.

Right?

And ok, if not this child, definitely other children. So how is this fake news?

[piratecat]

Jun 22, 2018 7:24:56 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Jun 22, 2018 6:53:56 GMT -6 cakewench said:

Fox News: It's OK because they're not Americans or white.

Uh huh.
Sure.

KIDS IN FLINT DON'T HAVE CLEAN WATER.

those are our kids but you DGAF, Fox News.

Poor kids though.

[sctiger]

Jun 22, 2018 7:37:21 GMT -6 @juliagulia said:

Jun 22, 2018 7:24:27 GMT -6 sheilathetank said:

If not separating a toddler from their mother is the litmus test we now use to determine whether we are the good guys in this situation, then we have truly lost any progress we have made as a society.

Right?

And ok, if not this child, definitely other children. So how is this fake news?

Problem is the right will take one little exception where this child was not separated and use it as their narrative.

[JukEboX]

So the little girl in the Times Magazine cover and in the original picture going around the internet, It turns out CBP and HHS has no idea where or who she is. Which leads both ways. For conservatives they will argue the picture is staged. But more likely it is exactly as it was reported that CBP and HHS lost the child as they did with over 1200 other kids in the past year.

Where is the little girl crying in that viral border photo?

[JukEboX]

I ResistBotted.

Greetings,

I am writing to voice my unbelievable anger and astonishment with the way this country is treating people who are exactly the same as people who came to this country more than 100 years ago. We are detaining and abusing families looking for a better life in a manner fuelled by 9/11 fear mongering as well as undeniable hate for people of color and non-white people. Separation of families, children, mothers, fathers, sisters, and brothers is reminiscent of what the Nazis have done back in the 30s and 40s. The lines connecting the two are clearly drawn out here. www.alternet.org/heres-why-its-entirely-appropriate-compare-donald-trump-nazis I never in my years would have thought I would consider this country a bleeding wound of such hate and destruction. I can now say that we live in Nazi America and that in and of itself is disgusting. We are now no better than the villains we took down in WWII or the internment camp supporters of Japanese Americans. I demand as a constituent of (STATE) you push this issue to get it resolved night and day until something is progressively done to end this nightmare. You are complicit in letting this continue by going home at night to sleep in a warm bed with your family while these families remain in cages. By these actions Republicans have proven they cannot govern. It's time to press them like they have never been pressed and get these people into humane and safe status with their families while the ridiculous administration works out the paperwork. What we are doing now to them is inhumane, indecent, and against human, decency and moral rights. Republicans have high jacked morality for their false prophet views of the white man first, everyone second. They have perverted what decency is. They should be ashamed and all the money hungry faith leaders, (Freedom Caucus included) should be led to the tent camp of hell in handcuffs, separated from their loved ones in retaliation for their sins. Trumps fear campaign banks on his base fearing the US falling into Sharia Law. In the meantime they are implementing Christian Sharia Law. The first amendment enshrines the separation of church and state in the Establishment Clause and since Trump has been elected he has done everything to break this law with support of the Freedom Caucus and his administration to bring the hammer down on immigrants and people of color.

As a constituent of (STATE) I request you use your station for exactly as you were voted for. To give our voice to what is clearly and justifiably wrong with the immigration situation now and this country as a whole. Compliancy will show your inability to do what you have been elected to do and i. effect will mean your immediate need to be replaced during the next election.

Thank you.

[notblanche]

Protesters are playing the audio outside Sec. Nielsen's home.

[clucky]

[notblanche]

At least 10 states are suing. Contact your state's AG and urge them to join the lawsuit.

At least 10 states plan to sue the Trump administration over the separation of migrant children as a result of its "zero tolerance" policy at the U.S.-Mexico border and over President Donald Trump’s latest executive order, which he says will end the separations.

"This is a rogue, cruel and unconstitutional policy," Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson said in a statement on Thursday. "We're going to put a stop to it."

The lawsuit will challenge the constitutionality of separating children from their parents "as a matter of course" when they are caught crossing into the United States illegally, alleging a violation of due process, Ferguson's office said.

www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/10-states-suing-over-child-separations-trump-executive-order-n885551

[JukEboX]

Sinclair media group running spots in support of the immigration policy.

Sinclair stations air unabashedly pro-Trump spot on family separation

Dare I say..... Coming soon to a TV near you.

[ldubhawksfan]

Jun 22, 2018 7:51:08 GMT -6 sctiger said:

Jun 22, 2018 7:37:21 GMT -6 @juliagulia said:

Right?

And ok, if not this child, definitely other children. So how is this fake news?

Problem is the right will take one little exception where this child was not separated and use it as their narrative.

Just like they only use the narrative of a few immigrants that might be MS13 or whatever other far reaching thing to paint all of them as bad.

[Deleted]

I know it’s the adoption part of my brain, but the lack of identification on these kids is killing me. The government is essentially creating orphans. It is criminal.

On NPR this morning they were talking about how once separated they have to rely on the children to tell them who they came with, where their parents are, etc. Six year olds! My kid gets confused on basic information about his life all the time. Some days he could tell you my full name and phone number and other days he forgets. This is not a kid’s job.

[oreobitsy]

Sessions lied abour separating kids and the chyron points it out: