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Post by elle on May 31, 2018 10:26:06 GMT -6
Yes this makes me wonder if it is actually just policy for certain airlines and not federal guidelines? Mostly I'd just be concerned nobody is stopping me if that is supposed to be a law. And my kids are 4.5 and 2.5 so not very old. Sounds like that might be the case. Or at the least it's enforced unevenly by the different airlines.
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Post by athn64 on May 31, 2018 10:26:40 GMT -6
Um on the plane, he has considered pardoning Rod Blagojevich and Martha Stewart. Blago? Really? He does realize he's a Dem right? Is he going to pardon all of IL's other crooked ex-governors too?
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Post by JukEboX on May 31, 2018 10:28:02 GMT -6
elle & blurnette989 forgive me for this sounding nosy or offensive but do you have a mixed family? The whole story is about both and reading your responses I am wondering if your just saying your young ones were just as young are have had the exact same experience. If it is to toward please don't answer. I am just trying to understand the context.
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Post by blurnette989 on May 31, 2018 10:32:41 GMT -6
JukEboX I'm white and my kids are white (granted I'm dark brunette and have no idea how I made bleach blonde babies). I was mostly responding because I've never had the experience in any context of having to prove my kids were mine for a flight.
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Post by JukEboX on May 31, 2018 10:35:26 GMT -6
JukEboX I'm white and my kids are white (granted I'm dark brunette and have no idea how I made bleach blonde babies). I was mostly responding because I've never had the experience in any context of having to prove my kids were mine for a flight. OH I get it. The article was that the child was light skinned and the mother was white. Her husband is dark skinned. She asserts the whole thing was racially motivated. She travels with her child alot as she is a coach and this was the first time ever and it she thought it was racially motivated.
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Post by byjove on May 31, 2018 10:37:47 GMT -6
JukEboX I'm white and my kids are white (granted I'm dark brunette and have no idea how I made bleach blonde babies). I was mostly responding because I've never had the experience in any context of having to prove my kids were mine for a flight. OH I get it. The article was that the child was light skinned and the mother was white. Her husband is dark skinned. She asserts the whole thing was racially motivated. She travels with her child alot as she is a coach and this was the first time ever and it she thought it was racially motivated. Yeah, it definitely gives off a racially motivated vibe to me too.
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Post by jkjacq on May 31, 2018 10:42:51 GMT -6
Um on the plane, he has considered pardoning Rod Blagojevich and Martha Stewart. Blago? Really? He does realize he's a Dem right? Is he going to pardon all of IL's other crooked ex-governors too? Everyone who was 'treated unfairly' by the government. Hes signalling to Cohen and parties that they have nothing to worry about.
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Post by athn64 on May 31, 2018 11:23:25 GMT -6
Blago? Really? He does realize he's a Dem right? Is he going to pardon all of IL's other crooked ex-governors too? Everyone who was 'treated unfairly' by the government. Hes signalling to Cohen and parties that they have nothing to worry about. Fuck that noise. Blago is guilty as sin and he won't be making any allies in IL over this. We all hate him.
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Post by jkjacq on May 31, 2018 11:29:57 GMT -6
Everyone who was 'treated unfairly' by the government. Hes signalling to Cohen and parties that they have nothing to worry about. Fuck that noise. Blago is guilty as sin and he won't be making any allies in IL over this. We all hate him. They all are. D'Souza, Stewart, Blago. It's not a matter of if they are repentant or needing a commutation or pardon. He's showing he can do what he wants and being a fucking toddler stretching his boundaries and until Congress (I'm looking at you Ryan and McConnell) grow a freaking backbone and stop him, hes going to keep doing this shit
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Post by athn64 on May 31, 2018 11:33:48 GMT -6
Fuck that noise. Blago is guilty as sin and he won't be making any allies in IL over this. We all hate him. They all are. D'Souza, Stewart, Blago. It's not a matter of if they are repentant or needing a commutation or pardon. He's showing he can do what he wants and being a fucking toddler stretching his boundaries and until Congress (I'm looking at you Ryan and McConnell) grow a freaking backbone and stop him, hes going to keep doing this shit I know. It just pisses me off. He's totally abusing his power and they are just sitting back pretending to be constipated. I guarantee if a Dem was doing this, they'd have done something by now.
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Post by mb3 on May 31, 2018 11:42:46 GMT -6
We've flown with our under two daughter twice round trip and have been required to provide her birth certificate each time (so 4 times). I can't speak to why she wasn't asked before but it is federal policy for a child that age to need a birth certificate to board a plane. I don’t know how a passport changes this. My SIL has flown several times (internationally, to visit her family) and so using passports. She has a different last name than her kids. She always has the birth certificate to prove the relationship but I don’t know how often it’s been asked for. I’m completely wtf’ing the “using Facebook to confirm the relationship” though.
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Post by mb3 on May 31, 2018 11:44:37 GMT -6
Um on the plane, he has considered pardoning Rod Blagojevich and Martha Stewart. No one should pardon Blago. The man is an idiot.
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Post by jkjacq on May 31, 2018 12:07:38 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'?
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Post by elle on May 31, 2018 12:14:59 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'? She's not wrong... And really, the insult may be tasteless but I'm really tired of people trying to find comparable outrage when it comes to blatant racism. There's just no comparison.
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Post by dc2london on May 31, 2018 12:16:37 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'? I don't like any use of that word bc I'm a prude. Ivanka isn't an elected official. Do I think it demonstrates decorum? No. Do I think she's wrong to say it? Nope. Let's get a show of hands from everyone who has ever called Chelsea Clinton a name, shall we?
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Post by dc2london on May 31, 2018 12:17:28 GMT -6
If someone called an elected official a feckless C word I would feel differently.
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Post by jkjacq on May 31, 2018 12:18:51 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'? She's not wrong... And really, the insult may be tasteless but I'm really tired of people trying to find comparable outrage when it comes to blatant racism. There's just no comparison. I dont disagree with her either. But 5 or 10 years ago, that would not have flown on basic cable channels. Just for the crassness. Are we heading down a road where we can see how low we can drop our standards regardless of party?
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Post by dc2london on May 31, 2018 12:25:50 GMT -6
Pompeo's holding a presser.
He tells Bloomberg that the US and NK have made their expectations for the summit clear.
A WSJ source said that Trump is pushing for multiple summits because the stakes are so high. Right now, Pompeo says, they're working to convince the Kim regime that their security will be protected if they give up their nukes.
Martha Raddatz wants to know when they're going to tell us whether or not the summit is happening, GDI!! Pompeo indicates that we should expect there to be back and forth because Kim is likely to panic. He asks for patience with the process. "We've made real progress in the last 72 hours toward setting the conditions...putting Pres Trump and Chairman Kim in a place where we think progress can be made."
Someone forgot to give the Fox reporter a microphone but it sounds like he's asking about Chinese influence on the talks. "There is no daylight between the South Koreans, the Japanese and the United States with regard to our approach." Good lord, I hope that's true.
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Post by dc2london on May 31, 2018 12:38:55 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on May 31, 2018 12:41:11 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'? I happen to think cunts are pretty incredible so I don't like it being used as an insult, but I can't get it up because someone said a mean thing about Ivanka. Who fucking cares if a TV personality said a mean thing about her? Her father spends his days demonizing immigrants in service of having them ripped from the place where many have lived for decades, destroying businesses, careers, families, ripping children from their parents, and showing zero sympathy when people sent back to violent countries are murdered because we didn't think they were worth saving. And she stands by and watches it happen, because she's using her cushy "unpaid" government position to expand her business and make $$$$$. Fuck her, and fuck anyone who will defend Donald Trump & the entire Republican party for the horrific things they say about immigrants in order to destroy the lives of living human beings but thinks someone calling Ivanka a name is worth getting up at arms over. FUCK. THEM. Ivanka isn't going to be materially hurt by being called a cunt. Can't say that for the people her father & his administration attack daily. ETA: more smarter words #NailedIt. People are being shot in the streets for living while black, I have no fucks to spare because someone hurt Ivanka's fee fees
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Post by blurnette989 on May 31, 2018 12:43:17 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'? I happen to think cunts are pretty incredible so I don't like it being used as an insult, but I can't get it up because someone said a mean thing about Ivanka. Who fucking cares if a TV personality said a mean thing about her? Her father spends his days demonizing immigrants in service of having them ripped from the place where many have lived for decades, destroying businesses, careers, families, ripping children from their parents, and showing zero sympathy when people sent back to violent countries are murdered because we didn't think they were worth saving. And she stands by and watches it happen, because she's using her cushy "unpaid" government position to expand her business and make $$$$$. Fuck her, and fuck anyone who will defend Donald Trump & the entire Republican party for the horrific things they say about immigrants in order to destroy the lives of living human beings but thinks someone calling Ivanka a name is worth getting up at arms over. FUCK. THEM. Ivanka isn't going to be materially hurt by being called a cunt. Can't say that for the people her father & his administration attack daily. ETA: more smarter words You always articulate things so well. So much this, even down to cunts are powerful and shouldn't be insults.
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Post by jkjacq on May 31, 2018 12:51:40 GMT -6
What do we think about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a 'feckless cunt'? I happen to think cunts are pretty incredible so I don't like it being used as an insult, but I can't get it up because someone said a mean thing about Ivanka. Who fucking cares if a TV personality said a mean thing about her? Her father spends his days demonizing immigrants in service of having them ripped from the place where many have lived for decades, destroying businesses, careers, families, ripping children from their parents, and showing zero sympathy when people sent back to violent countries are murdered because we didn't think they were worth saving. And she stands by and watches it happen, because she's using her cushy "unpaid" government position to expand her business and make $$$$$. Fuck her, and fuck anyone who will defend Donald Trump & the entire Republican party for the horrific things they say about immigrants in order to destroy the lives of living human beings but thinks someone calling Ivanka a name is worth getting up at arms over. FUCK. THEM. Ivanka isn't going to be materially hurt by being called a cunt. Can't say that for the people her father & his administration attack daily. ETA: more smarter words Ok BUT Couldnt Samantha gotten her point across without the name calling? Because the other side does it doesnt make it right. I will admit I dont like the word and I dont use it in day to day convo. And I think its unacceptable to call anyone that. I'm not worried about Ivanka getting her feelings hurt. And I'm not defending her. I'm talking about if we are going to hold one side to a standard shouldnt we hold ourselves to the same. (And I do agree with what you wrote about her father, I'm taking all that out for the moment for the purpose of this conversation)
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Post by elle on May 31, 2018 12:53:07 GMT -6
She's not wrong... And really, the insult may be tasteless but I'm really tired of people trying to find comparable outrage when it comes to blatant racism. There's just no comparison. I dont disagree with her either. But 5 or 10 years ago, that would not have flown on basic cable channels. Just for the crassness. Are we heading down a road where we can see how low we can drop our standards regardless of party? @heartbot basically said it all for me but I just can't get it up to be bothered by an insult, as crass as it may be, given *waves arms around wildly* everything else this administration and supporters are pushing.
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Post by elle on May 31, 2018 12:54:52 GMT -6
I happen to think cunts are pretty incredible so I don't like it being used as an insult, but I can't get it up because someone said a mean thing about Ivanka. Who fucking cares if a TV personality said a mean thing about her? Her father spends his days demonizing immigrants in service of having them ripped from the place where many have lived for decades, destroying businesses, careers, families, ripping children from their parents, and showing zero sympathy when people sent back to violent countries are murdered because we didn't think they were worth saving. And she stands by and watches it happen, because she's using her cushy "unpaid" government position to expand her business and make $$$$$. Fuck her, and fuck anyone who will defend Donald Trump & the entire Republican party for the horrific things they say about immigrants in order to destroy the lives of living human beings but thinks someone calling Ivanka a name is worth getting up at arms over. FUCK. THEM. Ivanka isn't going to be materially hurt by being called a cunt. Can't say that for the people her father & his administration attack daily. ETA: more smarter words Ok BUT Couldnt Samantha gotten her point across without the name calling? Because the other side does it doesnt make it right. I will admit I dont like the word and I dont use it in day to day convo. And I think its unacceptable to call anyone that. I'm not worried about Ivanka getting her feelings hurt. And I'm not defending her. I'm talking about if we are going to hold one side to a standard shouldnt we hold ourselves to the same. (And I do agree with what you wrote about her father, I'm taking all that out for the moment for the purpose of this conversation) Of course she could have but she's a comedian and using shocking language is part of the schtick. I don't know if you watch her show but that comment isn't unusual. See also John Oliver.
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Post by dc2london on May 31, 2018 12:55:40 GMT -6
But Samantha Bee has always been crass. I get what you're saying about holding ourselves to a higher standard, but Samantha has always had a more avante garde style of comedy.
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Post by elle on May 31, 2018 13:00:48 GMT -6
They made her apologize.
Samantha Bee @iamsambee
I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night. It was inappropriate and inexcusable. I crossed a line, and I deeply regret it.
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Post by MichaelScott on May 31, 2018 13:09:43 GMT -6
I happen to think cunts are pretty incredible so I don't like it being used as an insult, but I can't get it up because someone said a mean thing about Ivanka. Who fucking cares if a TV personality said a mean thing about her? Her father spends his days demonizing immigrants in service of having them ripped from the place where many have lived for decades, destroying businesses, careers, families, ripping children from their parents, and showing zero sympathy when people sent back to violent countries are murdered because we didn't think they were worth saving. And she stands by and watches it happen, because she's using her cushy "unpaid" government position to expand her business and make $$$$$. Fuck her, and fuck anyone who will defend Donald Trump & the entire Republican party for the horrific things they say about immigrants in order to destroy the lives of living human beings but thinks someone calling Ivanka a name is worth getting up at arms over. FUCK. THEM. Ivanka isn't going to be materially hurt by being called a cunt. Can't say that for the people her father & his administration attack daily. ETA: more smarter words Ok BUT Couldnt Samantha gotten her point across without the name calling? Because the other side does it doesnt make it right. I will admit I dont like the word and I dont use it in day to day convo. And I think its unacceptable to call anyone that. I'm not worried about Ivanka getting her feelings hurt. And I'm not defending her. I'm talking about if we are going to hold one side to a standard shouldnt we hold ourselves to the same. (And I do agree with what you wrote about her father, I'm taking all that out for the moment for the purpose of this conversation) What? Did I miss the right calling someone a cunt? ETA: I'm clarifying because I can't, for the life of me, understand how holding a standard between a crass comment and a racist comment even belong in the same conversation.
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Post by jkjacq on May 31, 2018 13:13:03 GMT -6
They made her apologize. Samantha Bee @iamsambee I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night. It was inappropriate and inexcusable. I crossed a line, and I deeply regret it. I dont think they shouldnt have made her apologize.
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Post by mb3 on May 31, 2018 13:38:33 GMT -6
Regarding Sam Bee, I’m in the camp of “I don’t like what was said but I really don’t have fucks to give to care about that”. I do think Ivanka is feckless though, and I think people would have been complaining if she were called anything other than “a feckless lady” and even then they’d probably still dislike the adjective.
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Post by mb3 on May 31, 2018 13:39:22 GMT -6
It’s been 4 weeks since eruptions started in Hawaii. Which seems almost impossible to believe.
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