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Post by obscureference on May 20, 2018 14:29:20 GMT -6
sunshiney I’m sorry for the bfns. They just never get easier. Hugs.
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Post by obscureference on May 20, 2018 14:30:11 GMT -6
orangehibiscus What happened when the test dried?! FX so hard it wasn’t line eye and this is it for you!
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 20, 2018 14:50:24 GMT -6
orangehibiscus What happened when the test dried?! FX so hard it wasn’t line eye and this is it for you! Thanks! The test didn’t change as it dried. It is still the same even now that it is completely dry. Not sure what that means (probably nothing).
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Post by charliefox on May 20, 2018 21:18:33 GMT -6
orangehibiscus What happened when the test dried?! FX so hard it wasn’t line eye and this is it for you! Thanks! The test didn’t change as it dried. It is still the same even now that it is completely dry. Not sure what that means (probably nothing). Crossing everything for you!
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 20, 2018 21:37:03 GMT -6
Thanks! The test didn’t change as it dried. It is still the same even now that it is completely dry. Not sure what that means (probably nothing). Crossing everything for you! Thank you!
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Post by sunshiney on May 21, 2018 3:06:00 GMT -6
orangehibiscus that sounds so promising! I hope this morning gives you a clear positive!! Wondfos had been wonky for me so I got a different brand, clinical guard. Basically I can see where the line *would* be about half the time... It is messing with my head. But I definitely have to call it as a BFN at 12dpo.
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Post by sammysam on May 21, 2018 5:22:15 GMT -6
Sorry sunshiney . I hate when tests do that. We're already dealing with enough stress. We don't need tests that just add to it. I've still got hope this is your cycle!
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 21, 2018 6:36:14 GMT -6
BFN for me also today. I’ve given up on Wondfo’s sunshiney. Now I only use the Walmart cheapies (First Signal) and then a FRER and digital if I get a + on FS. I think that’s what I’m seeing too...where the line should be.
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Post by obscureference on May 21, 2018 6:57:13 GMT -6
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 21, 2018 7:16:44 GMT -6
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 23, 2018 8:18:12 GMT -6
More BFNs for me, including today at 14DPO. I’m out, and I’m done testing. I’m stopping progesterone, so hopefully CD1 will come in the next few days.
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Post by sunshiney on May 23, 2018 10:47:14 GMT -6
Sorry, orangehibiscus. I hate how they do that. I saw such a clear ghost line but it never gets even the tiniest hint darker. Waiting on AF now too. Sigh. Good try, team!
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 23, 2018 18:18:28 GMT -6
Sorry, orangehibiscus. I hate how they do that. I saw such a clear ghost line but it never gets even the tiniest hint darker. Waiting on AF now too. Sigh. Good try, team! Ugh! This sucks so much! I’m sorry. LOL @ good try team though!
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Post by sunshiney on May 24, 2018 12:10:32 GMT -6
Lol, just wanted to share - on hold with the clinic right now, and their hold music is a boisterous tenor singing opera. Just felt really hilarious.
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Post by obscureference on May 24, 2018 12:21:00 GMT -6
I’m feeling better about my monitoring appointment being earlier than usual. I got a pretty dark opk today. Not positive, but close. Guessing I will be ready to trigger tomorrow which would be a tiny bit earlier than usual which gives me hope for this cycle. Maybe just a little hope.
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Post by sunshiney on May 25, 2018 6:29:16 GMT -6
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Post by obscureference on May 25, 2018 8:14:32 GMT -6
Thanks sunshiney. Unfortunately my monitoring appointment erased the little hope I had. Lining wasn’t ready and only two follicles measuring 6 and 9. I go back on Monday. I really hope this doesn’t turn into a super long cycle. Ugh.
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Post by obscureference on May 25, 2018 12:19:24 GMT -6
And my opk is still almost positive. This sucks. I am now guessing this cycle is a total bust and that it will be super long. It seems that every third cycle, my body doesn’t want to do what it’s supposed to. I’m glad I have an appointment with my RE in a couple weeks.
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 25, 2018 15:30:29 GMT -6
I’m sorry obscureference! I hope your body gets it together for your next US. Is your RE wanting to try injections to help your follicles grow?
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 25, 2018 15:43:23 GMT -6
CD1 will be today or tomorrow so I called the RE’s nurse since they’re closed on Monday. H and I talked, and we think this next cycle will be the last one before we take a break.
The RE’s nurse wants us to come in for an IVF consult next month. They batch their IVF, so even if we did a consult next month, she said the earliest we could do IVF is September. I just can’t believe that we are getting very close to this point. H and I are onboard with IVF if that’s what we need to do. I just never thought we would actually have to consider it.
I keep thinking what if... What if the next TI is the one that works/sticks? What if an IUI cycle would work for us? RE’s nurse said IUI would only increase our chances by 3-5%. Is that worth it? That isn’t a ton of increased chance, but what if that’s all we need?
TW Loss Mentioned
RE said IUI wouldn’t be a good option for us since I can get pregnant, even though I lost them both. One of my issues is getting pregnant in the right place, which is where IVF comes in.
End TW
H and I talked about the financial side of things too. Sure IVF is really expensive, but if we keep trying (and failing) at TI for a year, then that’s about half of the cost of IVF. But I keep going back to what if the next TI is it?? Ya know?
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Post by obscureference on May 25, 2018 18:11:28 GMT -6
orangehibiscus First of all I’m sending hugs. This is all so hard and frustrating. I completely know how you feel when you say you’d never thought you’d be at the point of IVF. Is there any reason not to do the IVF consult? I don’t understand why iui isn’t a good option if they’ve been fine with ti, that doesn’t make sense to me, but I’m not a doctor! You said iui increases your chances by 3-5%, what’s your total chance? What about the chance with IVF? I am considering a lot of the same questions that you are and when I meet with my re in a couple weeks I am going to ask him to lay it all out. % chances, cost, etc and then MH and I are going to talk it all out. Also, I don’t know if he will recommend injections, but I might just decline that for now. I always eventually O on my own. All I can do is wait to see what my follicles are doing on Monday. All this waiting. 😑
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 25, 2018 18:31:06 GMT -6
orangehibiscus First of all I’m sending hugs. This is all so hard and frustrating. I completely know how you feel when you say you’d never thought you’d be at the point of IVF. Is there any reason not to do the IVF consult? I don’t understand why iui isn’t a good option if they’ve been fine with ti, that doesn’t make sense to me, but I’m not a doctor! You said iui increases your chances by 3-5%, what’s your total chance? What about the chance with IVF? I am considering a lot of the same questions that you are and when I meet with my re in a couple weeks I am going to ask him to lay it all out. % chances, cost, etc and then MH and I are going to talk it all out. Also, I don’t know if he will recommend injections, but I might just decline that for now. I always eventually O on my own. All I can do is wait to see what my follicles are doing on Monday. All this waiting. 😑 Thank you! There isn’t a reason not to do the IVF consult. I just have to schedule it and H and I will have to take at least a 1/2 day off work since the RE’s office is almost 2 hours away one way. I think our chance per cycle is something like 8%, but I’m not sure how the mild endo diagnosis impacts our chances (if at all?). IUI has an increased cost, and it has to be done at my RE’s office. There’s no one local that does it. With my job and very little notice of when IUI needs to be done, it would be basically impossible to do IUI. Plus, with such a small increase in our chances, I’m not sure it would be worth doing vs IVF. I have not heard about what our chance is with IVF. I’m so sorry that you’re looking into IVF too, but I’m glad you have an appointment with your RE coming up to talk about everything. Do you think your H will be on board with doing IVF? I almost always O on my own eventually too. Adding in Follistim moved up my O day from CD40ish to CD14ish. I was hesitant to add injections, but I am such a poor responder to Femara alone. It was very worth it for me. I hope you have a perfectly sized follicle (or 2) on Monday! All the hugs to you! ❤️
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Post by obscureference on May 25, 2018 19:26:34 GMT -6
orangehibiscus Wow 2 hours one way that is far! Everything you said makes sense. Would you have to drive to your re’s for IVF? I’m not really sure how many appointments it entails, just that there are a lot of meds. I’m not sure MH would be on board. I’m not even sure I’m on board lol. It would have to be dramatically improved chances, and I’ve read that my age will have a significant impact on the chances. I am debating taking a break, too. I thought maybe I could take a few months off of the meds, really focus on getting healthy and dropping some weight and then if I’m successful with that, going for a couple iuis and see what happens. Idk the age thing really has me in a time crunch. Otherwise a break would be a no brainer I think.
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Post by charliefox on May 25, 2018 21:44:55 GMT -6
CD1 will be today or tomorrow so I called the RE’s nurse since they’re closed on Monday. H and I talked, and we think this next cycle will be the last one before we take a break. The RE’s nurse wants us to come in for an IVF consult next month. They batch their IVF, so even if we did a consult next month, she said the earliest we could do IVF is September. I just can’t believe that we are getting very close to this point. H and I are onboard with IVF if that’s what we need to do. I just never thought we would actually have to consider it. I keep thinking what if... What if the next TI is the one that works/sticks? What if an IUI cycle would work for us? RE’s nurse said IUI would only increase our chances by 3-5%. Is that worth it? That isn’t a ton of increased chance, but what if that’s all we need? TW Loss Mentioned RE said IUI wouldn’t be a good option for us since I can get pregnant, even though I lost them both. One of my issues is getting pregnant in the right place, which is where IVF comes in. End TW H and I talked about the financial side of things too. Sure IVF is really expensive, but if we keep trying (and failing) at TI for a year, then that’s about half of the cost of IVF. But I keep going back to what if the next TI is it?? Ya know? I get it, we're at the point where we have to figure out what our next steps are going to be. I detailed my thoughts over on TTGP but financially it makes sense for us to do IVF this year too which is crazy because I can't believe we'd be at a point where we'd be considering that. It seems so...huge. Anyway, I get it. So many mixed emotions...so many BIG emotions. I understand your RE steering you away from IUI, there is a slight increased risk of ectopic since the sperm are given such a head start. I find it hard to take statistics into consideration since it has everything to do with your body and not with the stats. Oy. Such tough decisions, so many hugs.
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 26, 2018 14:18:51 GMT -6
orangehibiscus Wow 2 hours one way that is far! Everything you said makes sense. Would you have to drive to your re’s for IVF? I’m not really sure how many appointments it entails, just that there are a lot of meds. I’m not sure MH would be on board. I’m not even sure I’m on board lol. It would have to be dramatically improved chances, and I’ve read that my age will have a significant impact on the chances. I am debating taking a break, too. I thought maybe I could take a few months off of the meds, really focus on getting healthy and dropping some weight and then if I’m successful with that, going for a couple iuis and see what happens. Idk the age thing really has me in a time crunch. Otherwise a break would be a no brainer I think. Yes! It is a long way away. I know o would have to go there for monitoring US, ER, and transfer. Other than that, I’m not sure if there is anything else we would have to go there for. It’s so hard to make decisions with IF. I’m focusing on getting healthy and dropping weight too. I hope you and your H can come up with a good plan for y’all. If you don’t mind me asking, why do you think he wouldn’t be on board with IVF? It’s such a difficult decision to make. Hugs!
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 26, 2018 14:23:56 GMT -6
CD1 will be today or tomorrow so I called the RE’s nurse since they’re closed on Monday. H and I talked, and we think this next cycle will be the last one before we take a break. The RE’s nurse wants us to come in for an IVF consult next month. They batch their IVF, so even if we did a consult next month, she said the earliest we could do IVF is September. I just can’t believe that we are getting very close to this point. H and I are onboard with IVF if that’s what we need to do. I just never thought we would actually have to consider it. I keep thinking what if... What if the next TI is the one that works/sticks? What if an IUI cycle would work for us? RE’s nurse said IUI would only increase our chances by 3-5%. Is that worth it? That isn’t a ton of increased chance, but what if that’s all we need? TW Loss Mentioned RE said IUI wouldn’t be a good option for us since I can get pregnant, even though I lost them both. One of my issues is getting pregnant in the right place, which is where IVF comes in. End TW H and I talked about the financial side of things too. Sure IVF is really expensive, but if we keep trying (and failing) at TI for a year, then that’s about half of the cost of IVF. But I keep going back to what if the next TI is it?? Ya know? I get it, we're at the point where we have to figure out what our next steps are going to be. I detailed my thoughts over on TTGP but financially it makes sense for us to do IVF this year too which is crazy because I can't believe we'd be at a point where we'd be considering that. It seems so...huge. Anyway, I get it. So many mixed emotions...so many BIG emotions. I understand your RE steering you away from IUI, there is a slight increased risk of ectopic since the sperm are given such a head start. I find it hard to take statistics into consideration since it has everything to do with your body and not with the stats. Oy. Such tough decisions, so many hugs. Thank you! I’m sorry you’re at this point too. This sucks so much! It is such a huge step to consider and move forward with IVF. I definitely don’t want another ectopic! That was not fun. At the end of the day, I just don’t think we’ll do IUI because of scheduling issues, increased risk of ectopic, and minimal increase in success chances. All the hugs to you too Charliefox! Does your clinic batch IVF? Have you had your consult yet?
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Post by obscureference on May 26, 2018 19:13:17 GMT -6
orangehibiscus It’s cost for MH. And for me, too honestly. That’s why the success chance will be an important factor. I can’t really justify a huge cost unless it basically guarantees a good outcome, which of course is impossible to guarantee, especially at my age. TW:LC {Spoiler} Also, it would be different if this were our first or even second kid. The cost is kind of hard to justify when we have 3 kids already.
But yea, IF decisions suck. Hugs all around.
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Post by charliefox on May 27, 2018 12:24:16 GMT -6
I get it, we're at the point where we have to figure out what our next steps are going to be. I detailed my thoughts over on TTGP but financially it makes sense for us to do IVF this year too which is crazy because I can't believe we'd be at a point where we'd be considering that. It seems so...huge. Anyway, I get it. So many mixed emotions...so many BIG emotions. I understand your RE steering you away from IUI, there is a slight increased risk of ectopic since the sperm are given such a head start. I find it hard to take statistics into consideration since it has everything to do with your body and not with the stats. Oy. Such tough decisions, so many hugs. Thank you! I’m sorry you’re at this point too. This sucks so much! It is such a huge step to consider and move forward with IVF. I definitely don’t want another ectopic! That was not fun. At the end of the day, I just don’t think we’ll do IUI because of scheduling issues, increased risk of ectopic, and minimal increase in success chances. All the hugs to you too Charliefox! Does your clinic batch IVF? Have you had your consult yet? We haven't had a consult yet. From hearing other's experiences at our clinic via a local IF board I'm on I don't think they batch IVF (I didn't even know that was a thing!). It's something H and I have only started to discuss. I know we need to get on it if that's where we're headed since we need to do it this year or be stuck paying our deductibles AGAIN (which is like $10k).
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Post by obscureference on May 28, 2018 8:21:37 GMT -6
Pretty sure this cycle is a bust. No growth on the two follies today. They didn’t even have me make another appointment so I guess I’ll be calling tomorrow. Not sure if they’ll bother salvaging this cycle. I am feeling very defeated. I’m guessing this is what happened three cycles ago when I had a super long cycle. This never happened to me when I wasn’t on meds......making me feel even more that I should take a break.
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Post by orangehibiscus on May 28, 2018 10:07:43 GMT -6
Thank you! I’m sorry you’re at this point too. This sucks so much! It is such a huge step to consider and move forward with IVF. I definitely don’t want another ectopic! That was not fun. At the end of the day, I just don’t think we’ll do IUI because of scheduling issues, increased risk of ectopic, and minimal increase in success chances. All the hugs to you too Charliefox! Does your clinic batch IVF? Have you had your consult yet? We haven't had a consult yet. From hearing other's experiences at our clinic via a local IF board I'm on I don't think they batch IVF (I didn't even know that was a thing!). It's something H and I have only started to discuss. I know we need to get on it if that's where we're headed since we need to do it this year or be stuck paying our deductibles AGAIN (which is like $10k). That’s awesome that you have IVF coverage! Doing it this year does make sense since you’ve already paid your deductible. Yeah, some offices batch and some don’t. I don’t know how they decide to batch or not.
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