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Post by misskilljoy on Apr 10, 2018 11:34:15 GMT -6
Where are all those HGTV shows filmed where the houses are $$$$$? Vancouver and Toronto. Pretty much exclusively.
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Post by honda on Apr 10, 2018 11:35:35 GMT -6
I've been to Windsor a time or two. 🤣
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Post by Tlex on Apr 10, 2018 11:35:36 GMT -6
I think you could probably change what you wrote to south vs north and be a little more accurate. Something like 75% (or something) of our population lives within 2 hours of the American border. Because further north than that is just cold AF? Or is there another reason. Baaaaaaasically because it's cold. Yes.
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:35:49 GMT -6
I would agree with all of this and also add that there's a very different culture in the north (not just the territories but the northern parts of Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta) but I can't speak to it. I just know it's not at all like the rest of Canada. Similarly terrible history with Indigenous groups to the rest of Canada, but I think it's worse in the north. Distance from big city centres doesn't help because humans are terrible for embodying "out of sight, out of mind". I think because in the north, colonization is happening right now, in real time. For instance, DH's dad was born in the bush, during trapping season. He grew up without the influence of western culture at all with the exception of the fur table (happens just before christmas when they trade their furs). His dad had dog sled teams and lived a traditional lifestyle until he pursued schooling. So it is a very abrupt/instant change between old world and new world in the north. There is a still a very prominent clash in culture/blending happening. Throw residential schools in there and the 60s scoop/relocations as the trigger for this instantaneous change and you can get a better understanding. There are many groups that were relocated to reserves outside of their traditional areas and were adrift in terms of not knowing natural cycles or how to survive in the new area + not having a way to make income at all. There is soooo much more to it than that but that is the gist of it.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 10, 2018 11:36:26 GMT -6
Ok apparently I have to parent (MH says I should have asked him to get me a glue stick and Bristol board he didn't know I was doing a school project today har har) but I'll post more at naptime!
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Post by vino on Apr 10, 2018 11:38:05 GMT -6
I'm really hard on Alberta and I know it's totally unfair. I'm working very hard on opening my heart to it. I think in years past it has been like you had described, but I'm finding as people move here for jobs from all over the country and making this place their home the mindset of the province is changing, for the better. We are becoming so diverse and it's showing.
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:38:25 GMT -6
I think you could probably change what you wrote to south vs north and be a little more accurate. Something like 75% (or something) of our population lives within 2 hours of the American border. Because further north than that is just cold AF? Or is there another reason. Cold, isolated, expensive. There are less people, so less money to put into longer stretches of road/transport of food. Where DH is from a jug of milk can cost $17. I am building a daycare in a northern community for work right now and it had to be built over 3 years for a simple building to accommodate ice roads, ferries, permafrost and weather.
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Post by honda on Apr 10, 2018 11:38:40 GMT -6
What is Bristol board?
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:39:26 GMT -6
whhhhaaaat the big cardboard paper you put your science fair info on
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Post by misskilljoy on Apr 10, 2018 11:39:29 GMT -6
Also, for Americans who are unaware, there is this crazy town called Churchill in Manitoba that you should know about.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 11:39:32 GMT -6
Ok apparently I have to parent (MH says I should have asked him to get me a glue stick and Bristol board he didn't know I was doing a school project today har har) but I'll post more at naptime! But we are just getting to the good part!!!
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Post by honda on Apr 10, 2018 11:40:22 GMT -6
whhhhaaaat the big cardboard paper you put your science fair info on A poster board?
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Post by misskilljoy on Apr 10, 2018 11:42:41 GMT -6
Because further north than that is just cold AF? Or is there another reason. Cold, isolated, expensive. There are less people, so less money to put into longer stretches of road/transport of food. Where DH is from a jug of milk can cost $17. I am building a daycare in a northern community for work right now and it had to be built over 3 years for a simple building to accommodate ice roads, ferries, permafrost and weather. Yesss. Many northern communities are isolated, fly-in communities without roads leading in/out of town. Anything brought in is expensive AF. The government tries to offset the cost by a "northern living allowance" but it isn't enough. Low access to social services in northern communities, too, from what I know - especially the areas predominantly Indigenous.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 11:43:26 GMT -6
Because further north than that is just cold AF? Or is there another reason. Cold, isolated, expensive. There are less people, so less money to put into longer stretches of road/transport of food. Where DH is from a jug of milk can cost $17. I am building a daycare in a northern community for work right now and it had to be built over 3 years for a simple building to accommodate ice roads, ferries, permafrost and weather. So the north is mostly just indigenous people? If it’s such harsh, unfamiliar conditions why is it starting to become colonized like you mentioned in your previous post? Oil, perhaps?
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Post by misskilljoy on Apr 10, 2018 11:43:39 GMT -6
Churchill isn't only cool because of the polar bears, though. It's also where tens of thousands of belugas congregate every year.
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Post by emma on Apr 10, 2018 11:43:52 GMT -6
did Tlex tell you that the weekend she told you not to come because the weather would be terrible, was actually beautiful? Like 18c and clear blue sunny skies all weekend Ha! Yes. My trip was fun, but I am sorry I missed my possible once in a lifetime chance to meet you guys. Also, do you want to talk about why your transition has been hard? You were really excited about moving, right? And your house was on the market for a while? I’m only nosy. You don’t have to tell me anything at all. I'm sure there'll be another chance to meet up! I wasn't expecting a culture shock, i grew up in the London area so i thought moving back to a big city would be familiar, but once i got here i found living with all the people and the traffic really overwhelming. Plus i found that i missed the few friends i'd made more than i thought and the easy slow pace of life back east. I'm very happy here now and can honestly see us staying for quite a while
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Post by emma on Apr 10, 2018 11:44:29 GMT -6
feel free to ask away. I'd only been out here once before we moved. Where are you in NB? I was desperate to get out but spent the last 6 months wanting to go back, it's been a bigger adjustment than i thought Greater Moncton area. ooof, no wonder you want to get out so bad
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:45:57 GMT -6
Here are some more northern pictures. We were on a trapping trip with DH's family here. This is in town (on reserve) before we left so you can get an idea- those are the houses: This seems relevant also:
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:46:44 GMT -6
Cold, isolated, expensive. There are less people, so less money to put into longer stretches of road/transport of food. Where DH is from a jug of milk can cost $17. I am building a daycare in a northern community for work right now and it had to be built over 3 years for a simple building to accommodate ice roads, ferries, permafrost and weather. So the north is mostly just indigenous people? If it’s such harsh, unfamiliar conditions why is it starting to become colonized like you mentioned in your previous post? Oil, perhaps? oil, hydro energy, diamonds, nickel, furs Mostly industry
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 10, 2018 11:47:32 GMT -6
I'm really hard on Alberta and I know it's totally unfair. I'm working very hard on opening my heart to it. It’s like I can feel you doing that. I get it. There is still a lot of bad blood between east and west and Alberta loudmouths of the past have not helped that in any way. And I see you are an Eastern liberal minded person so I can see where your hardness generates from. (I feel like that might sound offensive but I don’t mean it that way at all) It is changing. I think our political landscape has changed significantly in the last few years. Yes it’s still conservative and yes there is a lot of small minded viewpoints here - but it’s growing. I have a lot of thoughts on the oil crisis but it boils down to this province in general having to eat some crow. Which, as someone who has worked in the social services with the most marginalized and ignored citizens of this province, I don’t think has been a bad thing Overall I think progress is happening in the right direction. I see it on a big provincial scale, but also even with some of my own conservative, stereotypical family members. Come love us T. I promise you will fall in love with some, if not all of it here.
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Post by goldenbird on Apr 10, 2018 11:48:25 GMT -6
I'm loving the pictures. I would love to visit Canada one day. Just gorgeous!
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Post by misskilljoy on Apr 10, 2018 11:49:19 GMT -6
So the north is mostly just indigenous people? If it’s such harsh, unfamiliar conditions why is it starting to become colonized like you mentioned in your previous post? Oil, perhaps? oil, hydro energy, diamonds, nickel, furs Mostly industry And white people with a savior complex. So many white teachers going up north to teach. So many. It's embarrassing how it's treated like some novelty to southern Canadians.
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:50:04 GMT -6
oil, hydro energy, diamonds, nickel, furs Mostly industry And white people with a savior complex. So many white teachers going up north to teach. So many. It's embarrassing how it's treated like some novelty to southern Canadians. Yup. teachers and ministers
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Post by Tlex on Apr 10, 2018 11:50:57 GMT -6
leatherpants lol at you offending me when I'm the dick, no, you're totally right about all of that.
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Post by byjove on Apr 10, 2018 11:52:48 GMT -6
Also, for Americans who are unaware, there is this crazy town called Churchill in Manitoba that you should know about. I have an error message that this video is not made available to my country (USA) LOL I guess we must remain unaware.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 11:54:59 GMT -6
I've been to Windsor a time or two. 🤣 +1. Nothing like being a 19 year old in metro Detroit. I have also been to Toronto and loved it. I would also love to get to western Canada someday.
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Post by cdnfroggy on Apr 10, 2018 11:55:27 GMT -6
Tlex , I understand what you mean about being hard on AB, I'm (and many people where I'm from) are not...fond of Ontario and Quebec to put it mildly. It sucks and it is hard to break out of that mentality. ETA-I am trying very hard to change my perspective on things like that.
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Post by CestLaVie on Apr 10, 2018 11:55:38 GMT -6
lol at me trying to find a picture of Churchill for you guys this is the only one I have access to: There it is everyone! Hope you visit! Lol. But it really is amazing.
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Post by misskilljoy on Apr 10, 2018 11:57:22 GMT -6
Also, for Americans who are unaware, there is this crazy town called Churchill in Manitoba that you should know about. I have an error message that this video is not made available to my country (USA) LOL I guess we must remain unaware. I can't stop laughing at this because that's basically the most Canadian experience on the internet. Short version: Churchill is full of polar bears.
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Post by emma on Apr 10, 2018 11:58:57 GMT -6
@gentleapricot , The west coast ( Vancouver ) is 3 hrs from Seatlle, so they are generally the warmer part of the country, then the middle provinces have mountains or flat as pancakes, harsher winters aka a lot of snow, then Ontario has the largest city ( Think, NYC /Chicago..., we get some nasty winters, but get nice & warm during the summers, then the east coast provinces, get nasty winters, mild summers, have a lot of beautiful coastal areas. That's kind of a general overview, but I'm skipping a lot. Accurate except mild summers. Summer in NB was brutal, mostly over 30c with 99% humidity and no wind, and very few people have AC. The black fly and mosquitoes are active from June through July and are big fuckers.
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