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Post by yianna on Apr 14, 2018 10:10:29 GMT -6
Little babies establish their own routines: eat, sleep, wake time, sleep, poop, repeat. Are you waking him to eat? Is there a reason? At this age routine is based on what they do, not what we think is the right routine! I know that sounds crazy but please don’t stress out about it. They settle into a real scheduled eat and nap routine around 4-6m when waking periods are longer and predictable. I was told to continue to feed every 3 hours during the day, or even 2.5 if he goes for a 6 hour stretch overnight. His daytime naps go like this: He acts tired usually about an hour after he wakes from his last nap, so I try to get him to sleep by rocking/bouncing/etc. Once he’s sleeping I’ll put him down in the rnp or pnp and he’s usually awake 5-20 min later. If I hold him longer initially (like for 30+ min) and then lay him down, he’ll sometimes stay asleep for longer. But basically it’s a rock/put down/wake up/pick up cycle until it’s time for his next feed or he finally is asleep laying down and it’s time for his feed, and I feel like he’s not getting much rest either way. I have considered letting him wake up on his own, but I’m worried that will promote longer daytime sleep and less nighttime sleep? Plus I want to make sure he’s getting enough to eat often enough. Am I overthinking all this? Sleep begets sleep! A 2-3 hour nap each nap is totally normal. And he will be rested enough to sleep at night, too. And I know that sounds totally crazy but it’s true.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Apr 14, 2018 11:00:30 GMT -6
Does this thread have a disappearing page 9 for anyone else? I keep clicking it and being taken back to page 8?
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Post by alwayscheese on Apr 14, 2018 11:16:51 GMT -6
I guess I wouldn't say you can't do a schedule with a several week old baby, as long as you're willing to be VERY flexible. Obviously I have like two seconds of experience but I'll say what we've been doing. DS is five weeks and I kinda go by this schedule since the times fit my day. Mostly it gives me an idea of how long it's been since he ate/slept. I try to do feedings and naps within half an hour of the times, but I go by sleep and hunger cues as much as the schedule. I try to keep him awake after eating during the day is the biggest thing. If he's napping soundly and wakes up sooner and is hungry I definitely just feed him. Or if he's napping soundly and doesn't wake up I let him sleep at least half an hour over. I do wake him sometimes since I want to get enough feedings during the day. We tend to sleep a little longer in the morning so then he takes shorter naps in the morning. We're trying to get him to learn to go to sleep on his own, the putting him down drowsy but not asleep thing that people have mentioned here. Swaddling and white noise seem to be the biggest helps for him. I've had the same concerns as you clementine about wether he's getting enough asleep during the day because we sometimes do the same go round as you mentioned where he keeps waking up when we put him down ore waking up fussing a minute later and then it's been several hours since he ate so do we give up on that nap? and sometimes when he does put himself to sleep he seems to be so restless and then laying there with his eyes open for a while in the middle of his "nap". But sleep in general seems to be slowly improving, even though there are still some bedtimes/naptimes that are a mess. TL DR I'm kinda in the same boat as clementine but loosely following a schedule seems to be helping. ETA the schedule
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Post by mintyblueair on Apr 14, 2018 12:03:05 GMT -6
I guess I wouldn't say you can't do a schedule with a several week old baby, as long as you're willing to be VERY flexible. Obviously I have like two seconds of experience but I'll say what we've been doing. DS is five weeks and I kinda go by this schedule since the times fit my day. Mostly it gives me an idea of how long it's been since he ate/slept. I try to do feedings and naps within half an hour of the times, but I go by sleep and hunger cues as much as the schedule. I try to keep him awake after eating during the day is the biggest thing. If he's napping soundly and wakes up sooner and is hungry I definitely just feed him. Or if he's napping soundly and doesn't wake up I let him sleep at least half an hour over. I do wake him sometimes since I want to get enough feedings during the day. We tend to sleep a little longer in the morning so then he takes shorter naps in the morning. We're trying to get him to learn to go to sleep on his own, the putting him down drowsy but not asleep thing that people have mentioned here. Swaddling and white noise seem to be the biggest helps for him. I've had the same concerns as you clementine about wether he's getting enough asleep during the day because we sometimes do the same go round as you mentioned where he keeps waking up when we put him down ore waking up fussing a minute later and then it's been several hours since he ate so do we give up on that nap? and sometimes when he does put himself to sleep he seems to be so restless and then laying there with his eyes open for a while in the middle of his "nap". But sleep in general seems to be slowly improving, even though there are still some bedtimes/naptimes that are a mess. TL DR I'm kinda in the same boat as clementine but loosely following a schedule seems to be helping. ETA the schedule This is exactly what we did with DS and what I'm aiming to do with this baby. Working toward a schedule, even if it isn't always perfect, makes me feel much, much saner! It eventually worked out really well with DS. Bedtime routines and the timing of the morning and bedtime bottles were the key for us.
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Post by clementine on Apr 14, 2018 12:12:00 GMT -6
Yeah, I guess I just need to chill and roll with it. I’m sure it will be much less stressful for me and probably for him as well. Thanks for the advice! It’s really nice to hear your experiences. And I seriously appreciate it! alwayscheese that’s the sort of routine I was trying. I feel like I was trying to interpret his cues. For hunger, I can tell. For sleep, I thought I could tell but since it’s been so hard to get him to nap maybe I’m trying too soon. Who knows! Be breezy, Clementine, stop over analyzing. 😝
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Post by alwayscheese on Apr 14, 2018 12:15:06 GMT -6
Yeah, I guess I just need to chill and roll with it. I’m sure it will be much less stressful for me and probably for him as well. Thanks for the advice! It’s really nice to hear your experiences. And I seriously appreciate it! alwayscheese that’s the sort of routine I was trying. I feel like I was trying to interpret his cues. For hunger, I can tell. For sleep, I thought I could tell but since it’s been so hard to get him to nap maybe I’m trying too soon. Who knows! Be breezy, Clementine, stop over analyzing. 😝 Same. I'm looking for glazed eyes and yawning. Or fussing. My SIL asked if he wasn't getting enough stimulation and wasn't getting tired enough, so that helped me realize I could chill about putting him to sleep exactly so long after feeding. ETA That schedule I attached says "watch awake times carefully" but now I'm 🤷
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Post by alwayscheese on Apr 14, 2018 12:16:24 GMT -6
This is exactly what we did with DS and what I'm aiming to do with this baby. Working toward a schedule, even if it isn't always perfect, makes me feel much, much saner! It eventually worked out really well with DS. Bedtime routines and the timing of the morning and bedtime bottles were the key for us. I'm so glad to hear it it worked well for you! FX it works for both of us this time.
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Post by dizzycooks on Apr 14, 2018 13:41:08 GMT -6
Serious question here. I’ve never had back problems outside of pregnancy and I didn’t have any this pregnancy. Last night I walked to the neighbors house with dh and the kids, literally I walked farther going into Costco in the morning, but when we got home my back started spasming and fell to my knees. It was completely debilitating and I ended up a wilted mess on my driveway until the spasms stopped. I was breathing through them like labor. Today I’ve felt mild spasm several times while doing nothing. It’s a blizzard here, I have barely left the couch so I don’t feel like I can blame overdoing it. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Post by dizzycooks on Apr 14, 2018 13:43:04 GMT -6
To everyone working on schedules and routines, I suggest just watching their routines and trying to help them fall into a pattern. If there are times you’re particular about then nudge their ya it’s that way gradually. We do naps at 1pm here and eventually I expect he will nap then too, but it’ll take time. Enjoy their littleness ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) and if your kid is going to daycare? I’d seriously let daycare set the schedule and replicate it at home - you’re paying them big bucks!
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 14, 2018 14:48:44 GMT -6
I’m so behind and lost in my own sea of shit and vomit over here, but I can’t make a schedule work. Like times and stuff.
We are doing the eat/activity/sleep routine and that is probably th me only thing going right these days. It’s saving my sanity. And was probably the number one culprit of why newborn days with DS1 were so awful - because we had no routine, no schedule and I was a hot mess never knowing what the next hour would bring.
Anyways, solidarity from over here.
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Post by alwayscheese on Apr 14, 2018 15:44:12 GMT -6
So this happened... ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/44abdd7bf88dd5027a7bccf2827ae7e1.jpg)
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Post by cornpop on Apr 14, 2018 16:42:32 GMT -6
Omg today.
We went on multiple walks, to the park and then to this trial music class. I got myself two chocolate bars at the shop the class was at (which I already ate).
Then come home and I put E up nfor a nap. She doesn't sleep but just plays for an hour. I go up to get her and realize I left her spray in Conditioner out and she opened it, spilled it everywhere and is saying she drank a lot of it.
sooo call to poison control later...Honest Co conditioner is apparently pretty harmless.
I am so not cooking dinner tonight.
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 14, 2018 17:02:37 GMT -6
Omg cornpop. Toddlers. Enjoy your ordering in!
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Post by polson on Apr 14, 2018 17:29:58 GMT -6
cornpop you need a do over! i hope you get some sleep and tomorrow is better as for me i had no idea we were supposed to get like a foot of snow this weekend. i did not plan for this at all. tried to order a pizza for pick up and got stuck in the alley...all of the delivery drivers were either stuck or not going out so they let us cancel the order. luckily we have a pizza in the freezer and enough food for tomorrow. and wine.
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Post by yianna on Apr 14, 2018 19:16:15 GMT -6
Fake labor = ice cream, right?
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Post by ArielMermaid on Apr 14, 2018 19:21:50 GMT -6
Fake labor = ice cream, right? Yas girl.
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Post by dizzycooks on Apr 14, 2018 19:31:34 GMT -6
Fake labor = ice cream, right? At the very least.
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Post by alwayscheese on Apr 14, 2018 20:14:46 GMT -6
Fake labor = ice cream, right? Ugh. I'm really sorry. But yes, ice cream and everything else too!
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Apr 15, 2018 3:58:36 GMT -6
DS1 took awhile to get into routine (and that routine never included decent naps 😭) but it did kind of just happen (with some help from a sleep consultant at five months).
He needed to do more an eat play eat sleep routine because he tended towards smaller feeds more often and was waking frequently from being hungry.
DS2 sleeps better so far during the day but is up a lot at night which sucks. I don’t want to fuck with his day sleep but damn I’m tired (DS1 doesn’t nap anymore). I have to put him down asleep because he hates being swaddled when he’s awake (but sleeps better swaddled for sure).
I will say though, I worked super hard to do the “right” things with DS1 as a newborn (drowsy but awake when putting him down, etc) but it all went completely to shit at the four month sleep regression so I’m not stressing as much at this point with DS2 (he’ll be three weeks on Tuesday).
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Post by gldnbearz on Apr 15, 2018 6:43:32 GMT -6
Things I am having a love /hate relationship with: 1. the velcro on the Swaddle Me. It works well, but it's so loud in the MOTN. 2. disposable breast pads. I don't leak a lot, but enough to use them. They never stay in place. 3. a nice, warm/hot shower. My nips hate warm water. 😞
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Post by gldnbearz on Apr 15, 2018 6:45:26 GMT -6
So this happened... ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/44abdd7bf88dd5027a7bccf2827ae7e1.jpg) This was me last night also. MH did a poopy diaper change and commented that there was no pee. I'm holding the kid and I feel a gush of warmth. Just after I showered. I was pretty steamed.
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Post by dizzycooks on Apr 15, 2018 7:02:39 GMT -6
Things I am having a love /hate relationship with: 1. the velcro on the Swaddle Me. It works well, but it's so loud in the MOTN. 2. disposable breast pads. I don't leak a lot, but enough to use them. They never stay in place. 3. a nice, warm/hot shower. My nips hate warm water. 😞 Slather up the lanolin before your shower and keep a wash cloth on your chest during the shower.
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Post by smilesp on Apr 15, 2018 7:07:36 GMT -6
Things I am having a love /hate relationship with: 1. the velcro on the Swaddle Me. It works well, but it's so loud in the MOTN. 2. disposable breast pads. I don't leak a lot, but enough to use them. They never stay in place. 3. a nice, warm/hot shower. My nips hate warm water. 😞 I think reusable breast pads are more comfortable than disposables. I like bamboobies brand, which they sell at Target. I have one of those bags for delicates that I wash them in. And we do so much laundry with a toddler and new baby that I always have clean ones.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Apr 15, 2018 8:05:27 GMT -6
I just want a sign that this baby ever intends on exiting.
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Post by alwayscheese on Apr 15, 2018 8:29:43 GMT -6
Slather up the lanolin before your shower and keep a wash cloth on your chest during the shower. Thanks for the lanolin tip! I'm definitely gonna use it!
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Post by gldnbearz on Apr 15, 2018 9:56:07 GMT -6
Things I am having a love /hate relationship with: 1. the velcro on the Swaddle Me. It works well, but it's so loud in the MOTN. 2. disposable breast pads. I don't leak a lot, but enough to use them. They never stay in place. 3. a nice, warm/hot shower. My nips hate warm water. 😞 Slather up the lanolin before your shower and keep a wash cloth on your chest during the shower. I will have to give this a try. Thanks.
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Post by leatherpants on Apr 15, 2018 11:08:10 GMT -6
Things I am having a love /hate relationship with: 1. the velcro on the Swaddle Me. It works well, but it's so loud in the MOTN. 2. disposable breast pads. I don't leak a lot, but enough to use them. They never stay in place. 3. a nice, warm/hot shower. My nips hate warm water. 😞 Oh man the Velcro. And when I drop my phone. So loud.
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Post by mintyblueair on Apr 15, 2018 11:09:57 GMT -6
My husband took the night shift last night, so I packed up both kids this morning for breakfast at my parents' while he gets some sleep. My dad made banana pancakes and fruit salad for us, yum.
MH is back to work full time tomorrow so I'm going to be doing nights during the week. I might try to sleep from 9pm-midnight and then take over when MH goes to bed, but even though I'm exhausted in the evenings I find it hard to fall asleep that early.
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Post by yianna on Apr 15, 2018 11:10:56 GMT -6
Today’s embarrassing moment:
Incredibly pregnant girl heads to ULTA to drown her false labor sorrows in makeup.
Pregnant gal is walking out the door when she feels a drip down her leg.
First thought — OMG MY WATER BROKE
OH NEVERMIND - that’s just sweat running down my leg.
At least it wasn’t pee?!
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Post by gldnbearz on Apr 15, 2018 11:41:17 GMT -6
yianna, at least it wasn't pee. Wish it were your water breaking. Feel free to share what you bought from Ulta, if anything.
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