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Post by lahdeedah on Mar 13, 2018 9:14:02 GMT -6
yummeecookee I’m with you, i don’t think I’d let my kids attend something like that, either. I'm with both of you. As I was reading, I was like, and why would she let her son go to the house with the drinking? Nope.
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Post by trtlcrzy on Mar 13, 2018 9:16:36 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc.
I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS.
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Post by peachsmama on Mar 13, 2018 9:16:59 GMT -6
I just found out SD is leading the anti-gun violence walkout tomorrow at school. So proud! That's amazing, you should be! I've been thinking about coming to the local one here just to show support to the kids. I went to bat for them on Facebook this weekend lol.
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Post by lfig on Mar 13, 2018 9:17:34 GMT -6
Happy Birthday joelies!! I hope for your birthday you retain power through the storm!
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Post by peachsmama on Mar 13, 2018 9:18:31 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc. I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS. Me too! I got drunk about 3 times to rebel and was done with it.
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Post by sands42 on Mar 13, 2018 9:21:03 GMT -6
I’m probably going to be pretty strict with my kids. My parents were not and I did all the bad things. So definitely no to any type of drinking party tgrimes ... I’m sure it will happen but not with my permission!
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 9:21:57 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc. I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS. She didn't get signatures. She wanted texts from them saying they knew about the drinking and they were okay with it.
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Post by peachsmama on Mar 13, 2018 9:23:38 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc. I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS. She didn't get signatures. She wanted texts from them saying they knew about the drinking and they were okay with it. Because no teenager can get in their parents phone and send then delete a sent message..
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 9:25:57 GMT -6
She didn't get signatures. She wanted texts from them saying they knew about the drinking and they were okay with it. Because no teenager can get in their parents phone and send then delete a sent message.. I mean, duh. This is a really small town where everyone knows everyone. They apparently discussed it a lot. Not just a one time text.
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Post by lfig on Mar 13, 2018 9:25:59 GMT -6
MH lived on a farm in the middle of nowhere. His dad would purchase a keg to provide for bonfires occasionally for MH and his friends under the strict rule that no one left. At the time I thought it was cool. Looking back I think he’s a moron. Why on earth did he think that was a good idea. In his mind he was providing a controlled environment because “at least he knew where they were at and they were safe”. But yikes! You won’t see me doing that! Of course this is the same man that told my H (when we were dating and I was 16) that he didn’t care if we slept in the same room because he new if we were going to have sex we’d find a way/place to do it regardless...”so just be smart, use condoms”.
I was typically the DD because I didn’t like much alcohol, and I was scared of disappointing my parents.
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Post by flamingo on Mar 13, 2018 9:26:07 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc. I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS. I didn’t drink either in HS either. I wonder if they wanted consent to attempt to mitigate liability in case of an accident/overdose/etc. (I doubt that would hold up in court (not a lawyer, tho, so maybe it would?) At one of our rival highschools, a mother hosted a party and served alcohol; a 16 y.o. girl got hammered and left the party (driving) and caused a tragic accident that killed 2 people on their way to Disney. So that mother had that on her conscience, snd of course was sued for everything she had and I believe lost her home IIRC. So all of this is just a terrible idea IMO!
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 9:27:35 GMT -6
The whole thing stemmed from what happened at prom last year. The parents didn't know their kids would be drinking/supuplied alcohol. Although the mother did take everyone's keys, one of the boys had an extra set and had already planned on leaving super early to go fishing.
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Post by trtlcrzy on Mar 13, 2018 9:28:20 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc. I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS. She didn't get signatures. She wanted texts from them saying they knew about the drinking and they were okay with it. Sorry, you said permission in writing and I assumed.
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 9:28:49 GMT -6
She didn't get signatures. She wanted texts from them saying they knew about the drinking and they were okay with it. Sorry, you said permission in writing and I assumed. Yeah, I wasn't very clear. My bad.
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 9:41:05 GMT -6
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Post by Sunny41 on Mar 13, 2018 9:48:05 GMT -6
I don't understand. Most of that was my experience with a teen and drinking and drug exposure. There wasa small statement at the end about parenting. I'm not saying anyone said there was a bad parent. I'm saying at this stage saying "hard no to my kids drinking" isn't necessarily how things will be. And that was stated by others
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 9:53:53 GMT -6
I don't understand. Most of that was my experience with a teen and drinking and drug exposure. There wasa small statement at the end about parenting. I'm not saying anyone said there was a bad parent. I'm saying at this stage saying "hard no to my kids drinking" isn't necessarily how things will be. And that was stated by others You already edited your original responses so I'm just going to say that I think we all know that even if we don't want our kids drinking/doing the drugs, there's a big chance they probably will and we may or may not know about it. I'll just speak for myself by saying that I wouldn't buy my child alcohol and host a party where I allow other people's children to drink at my house.
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Post by klong11 on Mar 13, 2018 9:57:13 GMT -6
I don't understand. Most of that was my experience with a teen and drinking and drug exposure. There wasa small statement at the end about parenting. I'm not saying anyone said there was a bad parent. I'm saying at this stage saying "hard no to my kids drinking" isn't necessarily how things will be. And that was stated by others I said hard no. Yep, and I'm sticking by it. It was a hard no for me and my siblings and my child will be raised to know that it is a hard no for her. Sorry if you don't believe me or whatever, but hard no to that. Does that mean she isn't going to see it or encounter it with her friends, no, but she will absolutely know that she refuses any and all offers because that is how she will be raised.
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 13, 2018 10:01:08 GMT -6
Big nope to a condoned drinking party. Why did the host parents get signatures? If the cops busted the party those wouldn’t make any difference, the hosts would have gotten tickets for supplying to minors, etc. I’m hoping my kids take after me and don’t drink in HS. I didn’t drink either in HS either. I wonder if they wanted consent to attempt to mitigate liability in case of an accident/overdose/etc. (I doubt that would hold up in court (not a lawyer, tho, so maybe it would?) At one of our rival highschools, a mother hosted a party and served alcohol; a 16 y.o. girl got hammered and left the party (driving) and caused a tragic accident that killed 2 people on their way to Disney. So that mother had that on her conscience, snd of course was sued for everything she had and I believe lost her home IIRC. So all of this is just a terrible idea IMO! No way that would hold up in court. Not a chance. "Hey, I'm over here endangering children and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, you good with that?" Then there's a sexual assault, alcohol poisoning, vehicular manslaughter incident, etc. and you're like, it's cool, their mom sent me a text! Nope.
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 13, 2018 10:04:55 GMT -6
I did way worse things than drinking and...there is no responsible drug use or making good decisions when you're under the influence.
When you're on acid and the streets are melting and your hair is falling out and it's raining blood you have no idea what's up or down LOL
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 10:05:35 GMT -6
I didn’t drink either in HS either. I wonder if they wanted consent to attempt to mitigate liability in case of an accident/overdose/etc. (I doubt that would hold up in court (not a lawyer, tho, so maybe it would?) At one of our rival highschools, a mother hosted a party and served alcohol; a 16 y.o. girl got hammered and left the party (driving) and caused a tragic accident that killed 2 people on their way to Disney. So that mother had that on her conscience, snd of course was sued for everything she had and I believe lost her home IIRC. So all of this is just a terrible idea IMO! No way that would hold up in court. Not a chance. "Hey, I'm over here endangering children and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, you cook with that?" Then there's a sexual assault, alcohol poisoning, vehicular manslaughter incident, etc. and you're like, it's cool, their mom sent me a text! Nope. It definitely would not hold up in court. She just wanted to make sure the other parents were aware of what would be happening in her house. ETA Meant to tag flamingo
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 13, 2018 10:06:40 GMT -6
No way that would hold up in court. Not a chance. "Hey, I'm over here endangering children and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, you cook with that?" Then there's a sexual assault, alcohol poisoning, vehicular manslaughter incident, etc. and you're like, it's cool, their mom sent me a text! Nope. It definitely would not hold up in court. She just wanted to make sure the other parents were aware of what would be happening in her house. I get that, I just think she's a fool. The liability is unbelievable. I'm not going to jail or losing every penny I have so kids can have a good time doing a prom pre party or some shit.
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 13, 2018 10:09:33 GMT -6
Sunny41 I get what you're saying and you're already Parenting an older child, but I think that the liability is different at 18 vs 16. I still wouldn't want them doing it at my house at 18 or 19, but legally, I think they would be treated differently.
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Post by lahdeedah on Mar 13, 2018 10:10:00 GMT -6
I ordered M2's basket liner last week. It arrived yesterday and I ordered the wrong size to match M's. It's a large. So now I have to order M a large liner and get new baskets because what kind of mom would I be if the kids have different size baskets??! <insert sarcasm>. I do not want to shell out $60+ bucks for baskets at PBK. I have looked online for baskets about that size, but I found zero so far. I'll probably go to World Market today to look, but if I don't find any there, I may be saying bye to my monies.
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 13, 2018 10:10:58 GMT -6
It definitely would not hold up in court. She just wanted to make sure the other parents were aware of what would be happening in her house. I get that, I just think she's a fool. The liability is unbelievable. I'm not going to jail or losing every penny I have so kids can have a good time doing a prom pre party or some shit. Absolutely! I'm pretty positive the parents that hosted last year's party are in jail. I'd ask my coworker but she's still mad at me at the moment. lol.
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 13, 2018 10:12:10 GMT -6
I saw there's a new Sephora thread on GD and I'm about to spend all my money.
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 13, 2018 10:13:01 GMT -6
I get that, I just think she's a fool. The liability is unbelievable. I'm not going to jail or losing every penny I have so kids can have a good time doing a prom pre party or some shit. Absolutely! I'm pretty positive the parents that hosted last year's party are in jail. I'd ask my coworker but she's still mad at me at the moment. lol. I'm laughing at how ridiculous this is. Is everyone really eager to do time or something?!
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Post by flamingo on Mar 13, 2018 10:15:33 GMT -6
Sunny41 I'm not naive enough to think teens don't drink, do drugs, etc. Did I do it? No. Do I want my kids to do it? No. Will that work out for me? Hopefully. We'll parent the best we know how, talk about our expectations, keep track of our kids and their friend group, get to know other parents, and keep the lines of communication open. I don't think anyone here said you're a bad parent if your kid experiments with drugs or alcohol. Obviously that can happen to the best or worst parents--some kids are just hardheaded and are going to do what they want, no matter the consequence. Seems the general consensus is that providing it to underaged kids is irresponsible at best and not the choice most of us would make. And I don't think anyone said it magically changes at 18...but at that point our kids will likely be in college, living away and somewhat more independent. Easier to obtain alcohol or whatever w/o needing mom and dad to supply; more places to go other than your parents' or a friend's parents' home. At that point you just hope for the best and pray your years of "home training" (as my grandmother would say) will kick in and that you've raised them to make good decisions.
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Post by flamingo on Mar 13, 2018 10:17:00 GMT -6
I ordered M2's basket liner last week. It arrived yesterday and I ordered the wrong size to match M's. It's a large. So now I have to order M a large liner and get new baskets because what kind of mom would I be if the kids have different size baskets??! <insert sarcasm>. I do not want to shell out $60+ bucks for baskets at PBK. I have looked online for baskets about that size, but I found zero so far. I'll probably go to World Market today to look, but if I don't find any there, I may be saying bye to my monies. Have you been to Michael's? They usually have a pretty good selection; I got both my kids' there (they're the PBK knock-offs)
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Post by tallb on Mar 13, 2018 10:24:03 GMT -6
That type of thing happened at my high school and group of friends, but I knew I wouldn't be allowed so didn't go. My mom always said I had to drive bc she knew I wouldn't drink then (she is lucky I wasn't an idiot). One year my good friend a year younger ended up in the ER with a ridiculous blood alcohol level which was super scary.
Schools around here are starting to enforce rules/fines against parents that provide alcohol or let kids drink. A few months ago here a kid walked home from a party and got lost in the snow and died. Like a block from the neighborhood pool, so stupid.
I'm terrified of having teenagers basically.
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