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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:34:12 GMT -6
This is a good thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:37:51 GMT -6
Analysis I'm seeing on Twitter (lol) is essentially that this tells us nothing without the underlying warrant application information and details on exactly what was used to apply for the warrant and whether there was more than just the Steele dossier or not.
Which they're not going to release. And Schiff's protests and knowing Nunes makes me think that the memo is definitely cherry-picking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:39:35 GMT -6
Re: Adam Serwer's thread, I think that's a really good point about the role of the judge in all this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:44:57 GMT -6
And one more time for emphasis:
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Post by Uncaripswife on Feb 2, 2018 11:47:42 GMT -6
@rocksforludo do you have a meeting this afternoon? Somebody at the GOP is getting fired in the next 5 hours.
ETA damnit I meant doj not gop
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Post by Uncaripswife on Feb 2, 2018 11:49:17 GMT -6
I was just having this convo with a friend, and had the same convo this morning with mh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:51:03 GMT -6
Also this:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:52:55 GMT -6
Yeah, this seems to be the big takeaway from informed readers.
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Post by Minerva on Feb 2, 2018 11:56:40 GMT -6
So perhaps this is even worse for the GOP than a nothingburger? It will rile up Trump’s base, but it’s incredibly weak sauce to justify any changes at the DOJ. If Trump tries to use it in that way, I think it will backfire on him.
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Post by athn64 on Feb 2, 2018 11:58:00 GMT -6
Yeah, this seems to be the big takeaway from informed readers. Yeah. Nunes is an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:09:34 GMT -6
Oh my god. This is what they were up in arms about?
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Post by athn64 on Feb 2, 2018 12:12:13 GMT -6
Oh my god. This is what they were up in arms about? Yeah. Smoking gun, it is not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:15:52 GMT -6
This is all just fine, right?
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Post by justkeepmoving on Feb 2, 2018 12:22:50 GMT -6
I am underwhelmed over this memo. I don’t think it says much at all and was certainly not worth the release.
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Post by crunch on Feb 2, 2018 12:25:44 GMT -6
So it was a nothing burger? Fucking idiots.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 2, 2018 12:26:55 GMT -6
I have to grocery shop but I’ll be back. But listening to news on my way they were very adamant that there is classified info missing from this memo and that it isn’t enough for a fisa warrant The reporters are all I want the rest lol
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Post by athn64 on Feb 2, 2018 12:27:47 GMT -6
So it was a nothing burger? Fucking idiots. But he didn't liek Trump!!1!1! The world is ending!1! Yeah, there's pretty much zilch in this that points to conspiracy. They renewed warrants with permission from a judge. There's got to be probable cause there.
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Post by athn64 on Feb 2, 2018 12:28:34 GMT -6
I have to grocery shop but I’ll be back. But listening to news on my way they were very adamant that there is classified info missing from this memo and that it isn’t enough for a fisa warrant The reporters are all I want the rest lol That will probably never happen. Since it won't make Trump look good. Not that this does.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 2, 2018 12:28:55 GMT -6
FISA court is picked by Chief Justice who is and hasn’t been a liberal in forever
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 2, 2018 12:29:19 GMT -6
This is underwhelming to the point where I feel we're being lulled into a false sense of security and they're about to yank the rug from under our feet.
I'm hoping this is just my paranoia talking.
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Post by shadesofgold on Feb 2, 2018 12:32:40 GMT -6
Turns out to be much shorter and lower pay-grade than I thought, so I am catching up between meetings. This is... ridiculous. I'm assuming that whatever was cut in the Nunes "revision" and in the WH's deletions cut any of what Dems, DOJ or FBI thought was too sensitive. And I'm guessing that had more to do with details of the process of authorizing surveillance through FISC than the actual plot. (Maybe that's why no judge is named?) Laid bare this just seems... boring, petty and cherry-picked.
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Post by shadesofgold on Feb 2, 2018 12:34:16 GMT -6
This is underwhelming to the point where I feel we're being lulled into a false sense of security and they're about to yank the rug from under our feet. I'm hoping this is just my paranoia talking. Oh I totally believe they'll use this as an excuse for some yet-to-come bullshit. And the base will foam at the mouth over it and pretend they understand the deeper conspiracy. This is a nothing burger but I think we'll see more serious shit go down today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:36:04 GMT -6
This is also an excellent point. This all happened after Carter Page left the Trump campaign.
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Post by shadesofgold on Feb 2, 2018 12:37:02 GMT -6
ETA: I keep posting like half a second too soon today. I owe several cokes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:41:22 GMT -6
It says that the FBI authorized payment to Steele...but Steele wasn't paid by FBI, correct?? They hired him on after he did the Fusion work. Because he’s a legit intelligence actor. Which to me, makes his concern about not wanting Trump elected (that he’s quoted as saying in the memo) likely not because of some huge partisan bias like they’re implying but because what he found alarmed him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:43:08 GMT -6
Oh my god. This is what they were up in arms about? But Trump's base is out there screaming that it's proof that the FBI/DOJ are corrupt and that Rosenstein should be fired. I could give a fuck what they think but yeah I hear you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:46:33 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:46:49 GMT -6
I think this essentially does nothing to move anyone (unless Trump uses it as a pretext to fire Rosenstein or something). His base will eat it up - what’s new - and everyone with half a brain will either cast significant doubt on it or on the GOP side, just stay quiet because they don’t want it to hurt their legislative plans.
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Post by pesto on Feb 2, 2018 12:46:53 GMT -6
Wow. Seems like this was completely not worth revealing a FISA warrant over. Jesus Christ Nunes.
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Post by shadesofgold on Feb 2, 2018 12:50:51 GMT -6
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