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Post by Nonniedee on Feb 5, 2018 21:19:42 GMT -6
I side eyed Camille Grammer and her fiftyleven nannies when I see her on housewives. I'll admit that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:20:12 GMT -6
....I mean, I think the comparison doesnโt fit so Iโm not sure how to answer. If amber is a deadbeat (not seeing her kid, not paying child support) then thatโs a fact of the matter. Why are we comparing Kylie to Amber though? Thatโs what Iโm still not getting. AFAIK Kylie didnโt have a kid while she was in high school, didnโt go to jail for domestic violence and whatever else, isnโt an addict, and so far has most likely been in her kidโs (short) life and probably doesnโt owe any child support. There are just so many other differences that I feel we are comparing apples to...something that is very different from apples. Because if I remember correctly it was said we shouldn't be judging ANYONE'S motherhood experience. I donโt think thatโs what was said - if I did say that or something I said was interpreted to mean that, itโs not what I meant. I think questioning whether someone who has 800 hired helpers is raising their kid is gross. Of course there are nuances to the discussion (good mom/bad mom/involved/not involved) but I think any comparison of Kylie to the (obviously hot ness sector of) teen mom franchise is not a good one. I also think itโs possible to be a bad mom but still be a part of raising your kid. I also think being a bad mom at some point does not doom one to a lifetime of being a bad mom. Things can turn around.
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Post by Nonniedee on Feb 5, 2018 21:21:37 GMT -6
Duggar girls fantasizing about marriage and children since forever gives y'all the squicks.
Kylie not so much.
The only difference there is money and upbringing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:21:47 GMT -6
What's the difference between us judging the lazy teen mom girls and women with no jobs and an army of nannies? Real question no snark. This has nothing to do with Kylie btw, just wondering why one is more acceptable than the other. Also @frank it wasn't about Kylie. someone compared her to jenelle upthread. Like if she wasnโt rich sheโd be jenelle. Or something. For me I was like ? To that because I am still wondering where the comparison is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:22:24 GMT -6
Like I legit, no snark, am wondering why we are comparing Kylie to any of the Teen Mom crew. Because if she didnโt have the privilege of being a Kardashian (IE Makeup line at 20) she would be another young mom hanging out on Instagram / Snapchat all day. Just like most of the Teen Mom people. it doesnโt make her a bad person. It doesnโt necessarily mean sheโs a train wreck. To me anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:23:07 GMT -6
Duggar girls fantasizing about marriage and children since forever gives y'all the squicks. Kylie not so much. The only difference there is money and upbringing. just gonna throw in there for me this isnโt true. I donโt think anyone growing up fantasizing about motherhood is gross or weird or any of that. Doesnโt matter if theyโre rich or poor or whatever. I find it to be a normal-ish fantasy.
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:23:29 GMT -6
Duggar girls fantasizing about marriage and children since forever gives y'all the squicks. Kylie not so much. The only difference there is money and upbringing. i stand firmly in Kylie dreaming of getting knocked up ASAP is ugh-a-roo.
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Post by Nonniedee on Feb 5, 2018 21:23:49 GMT -6
Also @frank it wasn't about Kylie. someone compared her to jenelle upthread. Like if she wasnโt rich sheโd be jenelle. Or something. For me I was like ? To that because I am still wondering where the comparison is. That was I meant that she'd be in that station of life. Not a literal drug addled mess
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:24:08 GMT -6
Like I legit, no snark, am wondering why we are comparing Kylie to any of the Teen Mom crew. Because if she didnโt have the privilege of being a Kardashian (IE Makeup line at 20) she would be another young mom hanging out on Instagram / Snapchat all day. Just like most of the Teen Mom people. it doesnโt make her a bad person. It doesnโt necessarily mean sheโs a train wreck. To me anyway. wut? They all had kids at 16. In high school. Sheโs 20 years old, and graduated high school prior to having her kid. Thereโs the first how tf are we comparing this moment.
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Post by Cher on Feb 5, 2018 21:24:11 GMT -6
I judge everyone. I am here for judgment. I take issue with saying a female CEO isnโt โraisingโ her kid. Thatโs just a bridge too far for me. I wouldn't either. But..... By that argument is Amber raising her kid? Is the difference having a job? I think this is a fair question and I actually stepped away and cleaned for 30 minutes to try to figure out where I draw the line. I think I have an answer now. My mom was a broke single mom putting herself through law school. She would send us to stay at our grandparents for periods at a time, like when she had summer internships. When my grandparents say โwhen the kids lived with usโ, my mom and I get super defensive. Because, yeah, technically we would be there but my mom was busting her ass and I personally donโt like the connotation that my grandparents were raising us. Now, my dad. My dad was out getting his dick wet. He did weekends, summers and holidays. Unless something better came along. When he asked why my mom was walking me down the aisle and not him, I told him โshe raised meโ. He didnโt come to my wedding because of that. So, for me. Whether youโre Kylie, a CEO, a single mom or someone hustling to put food on the table, youโre raising your kid. I donโt know if itโs so much about the job. More like, youโre doing whatever you have to do and your kid is your motivator. If youโre Amber, my Dad or anyone else that comes through when itโs convenient. Those that live their life and their kid gets in the way of it, I would say they arenโt raising their kid. I donโt think itโs the job that makes a difference. Itโs what motivates you or what you work towards. Providing for your kid/being a role model/obtaining a better life v. Doing you and only you.
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:24:25 GMT -6
Maybe itโs that I never dreamed of kids, I dreamed of BMWs.
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Post by Nonniedee on Feb 5, 2018 21:25:44 GMT -6
I wouldn't either. But..... By that argument is Amber raising her kid? Is the difference having a job? I think this is a fair question and I actually stepped away and cleaned for 30 minutes to try to figure out where I draw the line. I think I have an answer now. My mom was a broke single mom putting herself through law school. She would send us to stay at our grandparents for periods at a time, like when she had summer internships. When my grandparents say โwhen the kids lived with usโ, my mom and I get super defensive. Because, yeah, technically we would be there but my mom was busting her ass and I personally donโt like the connotation that my grandparents were raising us. Now, my dad. My dad was out getting his dick wet. He did weekends, summers and holidays. Unless something better came along. When he asked why my mom was walking me down the aisle and not him, I told him โshe raised meโ. He didnโt come to my wedding because of that. So, for me. Whether youโre Kylie, a CEO, a single mom or someone hustling to put food on the table, youโre raising your kid. I donโt know if itโs so much about the job. More like, youโre doing whatever you have to do and your kid is your motivator. If youโre Amber, my Dad or anyone else that comes through when itโs convenient. Those that live their life and their kid gets in the way of it, I would say they arenโt raising their kid. I donโt think itโs the job that makes a difference. Itโs what motivates you or what you work towards. Providing for your kid/being a role model/obtaining a better life v. Doing you and only you. Well worded
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:26:04 GMT -6
What Cher said.
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Post by Cher on Feb 5, 2018 21:26:06 GMT -6
How does anyone know how Amber Rose is raising her kid though? Did I miss that information? I will say I slid up in Amber Roseโs DMs last night because she is a Philly girl too and she was celebrating. Since were here, I need to confess that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:26:10 GMT -6
someone compared her to jenelle upthread. Like if she wasnโt rich sheโd be jenelle. Or something. For me I was like ? To that because I am still wondering where the comparison is. That was I meant that she'd be in that station of life. Not a literal drug addled mess non-aggressive ok. We will have to disagree about the station of life. Sheโs a 20 year old high school graduate. Sheโs not 16 and sheโs not even still living at home. I (seriously) am still trying to find one similarity.
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Post by Cher on Feb 5, 2018 21:27:28 GMT -6
Maybe itโs that I never dreamed of kids, I dreamed of BMWs. I always had a passion for flashing, before I had it, I closed my eyes and imagined.
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:27:50 GMT -6
That was I meant that she'd be in that station of life. Not a literal drug addled mess non-aggressive ok. We will have to disagree about the station of life. Sheโs a 20 year old high school graduate. Sheโs not 16 and sheโs not even still living at home. I (seriously) am still trying to find one similarity. do you see a major difference between 16 and 20 in terms of living and decision making in reality? 20 is still very lost in romantic notions of love and adulthood to me. But they think theyโre grown.
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:28:20 GMT -6
Maybe itโs that I never dreamed of kids, I dreamed of BMWs. I always had a passion for flashing, before I had it, I closed my eyes and imagined. i am destined to give birth to kanye 2.0.
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Post by Nonniedee on Feb 5, 2018 21:29:56 GMT -6
And let's be clear. I'm a poor girl who was a teen bride. So I know that poor doesn't equal doomed.
I just see similarities in how vapid Kylie is and a lot of those teen mom girls.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:30:15 GMT -6
I also have to admit I feel a way about dreaming of having kids being icky because Iโm inferring that *just* aspiring to motherhood isnโt enough of something. Like when I was a kid and people asked what do you want to be when you grow up I said โa mom,โ and that would be looked down on because youโre supposed to aspire to something (other than being a mom).
I realize that is probably my own baggage and not actually what anyone is implying and fully admit that.
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:30:17 GMT -6
Blinds confessions?
I drove by the Motel 6 where Paola from 90 Day fiance was staying for the Super Bowl to try to run into her and invite her out for breakfast.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:31:44 GMT -6
non-aggressive ok. We will have to disagree about the station of life. Sheโs a 20 year old high school graduate. Sheโs not 16 and sheโs not even still living at home. I (seriously) am still trying to find one similarity. do you see a major difference between 16 and 20 in terms of living and decision making in reality? 20 is still very lost in romantic notions of love and adulthood to me. But they think theyโre grown. yes. Iโm not saying 20 isnโt still young. I just absolutely see a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:32:09 GMT -6
Blinds confessions? I drove by the Motel 6 where Paola from 90 Day fiance was staying for the Super Bowl to try to run into her and invite her out for breakfast. omg I love herrr why didnโt you go get her?!?!
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Post by peachtree on Feb 5, 2018 21:33:09 GMT -6
CeeBug ,you and I are on the same page. Especially regarding crafts. DS1s teacher last year said that that was the beauty of preschool. They do glitter so I don't have to have it in my house. That wasn't me, but I agree with you. Glitter is the devil's work. Whoops should have tagged emma!
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:33:44 GMT -6
Blinds confessions? I drove by the Motel 6 where Paola from 90 Day fiance was staying for the Super Bowl to try to run into her and invite her out for breakfast. omg I love herrr why didnโt you go get her?!?! by the time I watched her IG stories and started heading her way, she updated saying she was in an Uber on the way to the airport. She sat in MSP airport for a good part of the day on Saturday, getting shit faced and chatting up everyone. I wished I was there.
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:36:35 GMT -6
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:40:19 GMT -6
i miss your fruity face! Howโs life?
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Post by brux on Feb 5, 2018 21:44:49 GMT -6
i miss your fruity face! Howโs life? My blood pressure is down by virtue of not arguing ๐ Iโm chilling. I swear I read and intend to post but the way my attention span is set up. omg lol. Youโre the second person in as many weeks who mentioned they feel healthier not being here arguing day in and day out. It really is us. But I do miss you and hope life and work are treating you well!
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Post by auburn on Feb 5, 2018 21:44:54 GMT -6
If Kylie didnโt have Kardashian money, nothing about her life would be remotely the same. She wouldnโt be famous. She wouldnโt know Travis Scott. She wouldnโt be instagram rich. She would probably be in college and get plastered at football games. I donโt understand the idea that without money sheโd just be a teen mom. Without money she would be a totally different person, so? Also, I teach 16 year olds all day long. Thereโs a huge maturity gap between them and the seniors. Thereโs absolutely a world of difference between a 16 year old and. 20 year old. Now, I donโt even like Kylie so stop making me WK her!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 21:47:01 GMT -6
If Kylie didnโt have Kardashian money, nothing about her life would be remotely the same. She wouldnโt be famous. She wouldnโt know Travis Scott. She wouldnโt be instagram rich. She would probably be in college and get plastered at football games. I donโt understand the idea that without money sheโd just be a teen mom. Without money she would be a totally different person, so? Also, I teach 16 year olds all day long. Thereโs a huge maturity gap between them and the seniors. Thereโs absolutely a world of difference between a 16 year old and. 20 year old. Now, I donโt even like Kylie so stop making me WK her! All of this. Exactly what Iโve been trying to get at.
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