Week of February 12th

[sewf]

The Children’s hospital is within three blocks of the shooting, so it is possible they were treating adults as well at least on the emergency basis

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[jaygee]

That’s so devastating. Those parades are literally so fun and I hate that people were harmed while attending one.

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God, that's awful about the KC parade.

[passthepinot]

Feb 14, 2024 15:22:48 GMT -6 sewf said:

The Children’s hospital is within three blocks of the shooting, so it is possible they were treating adults as well at least on the emergency basis

One of the local news stations reported that there were child victims...I hope they are mistaken.

[sewf]

Feb 14, 2024 15:26:12 GMT -6 passthepinot said:

Feb 14, 2024 15:22:48 GMT -6 sewf said:

The Children’s hospital is within three blocks of the shooting, so it is possible they were treating adults as well at least on the emergency basis

One of the local news stations reported that there were child victims...I hope they are mistaken.

As much as I hate it, I think it is likely. Most schools closed today so kids could go. Because it’s a parade and supposed to be (relatively) safe. H took DS down this morning, but they left because H was anxious around that many people. Now I am glad for that anxiety.

[passthepinot]

Feb 14, 2024 15:29:26 GMT -6 sewf said:

Feb 14, 2024 15:26:12 GMT -6 passthepinot said:

One of the local news stations reported that there were child victims...I hope they are mistaken.

As much as I hate it, I think it is likely. Most schools closed today so kids could go. Because it’s a parade and supposed to be (relatively) safe. H took DS down this morning, but they left because H was anxious around that many people. Now I am glad for that anxiety.

I agree that it is likely. We didn't go for the anxiety reason as well. Far too peopley for me. I'm glad your H and DS are safe. All of my people that were there are safe too and I'm thankful for that.

[dc2london]

Authorities think it was an argument that escalated. What an unnecessary tragedy that guns are so ubuquitous that an argument can so quickly escalate, and harm totally innocent bystanders.

[passthepinot]

Feb 14, 2024 15:37:59 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Authorities think it was an argument that escalated. What an unnecessary tragedy that guns are so ubuquitous that an argument can so quickly escalate, and harm totally innocent bystanders.

Fuck guns is all I can say.

[passthepinot]

The police chief just said that she does not believe that any of the victims are children.

[ponyhairs]

Feb 14, 2024 15:37:59 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Authorities think it was an argument that escalated. What an unnecessary tragedy that guns are so ubuquitous that an argument can so quickly escalate, and harm totally innocent bystanders.

The thing with guns that I absolutely cannot wrap my head around is the casualness of people carrying them and being willing to end someone's life over seemingly trivial things.  I cannot think of anything that could be said to me in an argument that would make me say "yep, that is a statement worthy of a death sentence" or robbing someone for a couple hundred bucks (and often less).  Not only are you willing to end someone else's life and destroy the lives of their friends and family, but you are going to get caught and go to jail and was it worth it?  Death is so FINAL and we allow people to carry machines around that can end a life in seconds on a whim.

[dc2london]

Feb 14, 2024 16:01:46 GMT -6 ponyhairs said:

Feb 14, 2024 15:37:59 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Authorities think it was an argument that escalated. What an unnecessary tragedy that guns are so ubuquitous that an argument can so quickly escalate, and harm totally innocent bystanders.

The thing with guns that I absolutely cannot wrap my head around is the casualness of people carrying them and being willing to end someone's life over seemingly trivial things.  I cannot think of anything that could be said to me in an argument that would make me say "yep, that is a statement worthy of a death sentence" or robbing someone for a couple hundred bucks (and often less).  Not only are you willing to end someone else's life and destroy the lives of their friends and family, but you are going to get caught and go to jail and was it worth it?  Death is so FINAL and we allow people to carry machines around that can end a life in seconds on a whim.

It feels like people don't understand the power of these weapons. I am interested to hear how often perpetrators of gun violence experience contrition.

[dc2london]

We also have to acknowledge that there are communities where gun violence is so persistent, and that survivors of gun violence are significantly more likely to engage in gun violence in the future.

[willow]

Feb 14, 2024 16:12:15 GMT -6 dc2london said:

We also have to acknowledge that there are communities where gun violence is so persistent, and that survivors of gun violence are significantly more likely to engage in gun violence in the future.

It reminds me of why The Hate U Give is so powerful because it really illustrates that in several ways. I’m sure there are other books and movies but yeah. Also see the entire series of The Wire.

[dc2london]

Feb 14, 2024 16:28:48 GMT -6 willow said:

Feb 14, 2024 16:12:15 GMT -6 dc2london said:

We also have to acknowledge that there are communities where gun violence is so persistent, and that survivors of gun violence are significantly more likely to engage in gun violence in the future.

It reminds me of why The Hate U Give is so powerful because it really illustrates that in several ways. I’m sure there are other books and movies but yeah. Also see the entire series of The Wire.

That book is so good

[sewf]

I think there are injured children. The children’s hospital just posted that they are actively caring for patients, and if you believe your child is in their care, call this number. So at least one child without an adult present at the hospital.

I just can’t. What happened to their adult?

Sorry, I’m just trying to process something happening way too close to home. My kids school is basically on the parade route.

[elle]

[4PrivetDrive]

Feb 14, 2024 16:11:06 GMT -6 dc2london said:

Feb 14, 2024 16:01:46 GMT -6 ponyhairs said:

The thing with guns that I absolutely cannot wrap my head around is the casualness of people carrying them and being willing to end someone's life over seemingly trivial things.  I cannot think of anything that could be said to me in an argument that would make me say "yep, that is a statement worthy of a death sentence" or robbing someone for a couple hundred bucks (and often less).  Not only are you willing to end someone else's life and destroy the lives of their friends and family, but you are going to get caught and go to jail and was it worth it?  Death is so FINAL and we allow people to carry machines around that can end a life in seconds on a whim.

It feels like people don't understand the power of these weapons. I am interested to hear how often perpetrators of gun violence experience contrition.

I just found out that you don't have to take another class to renew your conceal carry license in ND and I think that is BS. You should be required to take that class EVERY time you renew so you are aware of the seriousness of carrying weapons. 

[jkjacq]

Feb 14, 2024 17:24:42 GMT -6 4PrivetDrive said:

Feb 14, 2024 16:11:06 GMT -6 dc2london said:

It feels like people don't understand the power of these weapons. I am interested to hear how often perpetrators of gun violence experience contrition.

I just found out that you don't have to take another class to renew your conceal carry license in ND and I think that is BS. You should be required to take that class EVERY time you renew so you are aware of the seriousness of carrying weapons. 

You don’t in Idaho either. Enhanced conceal carry is 8 hours classroom and 98 live rounds. Renews every 10 years (I think) you do have to pass a background check again

[byjove]

💔💔

[mrsweasley]

Ohio has constitution carry and it scares me. Really thinking about it, it probably plays a role in my continued grocery and order pickup post-covid vs going shopping myself. I rarely go into stores and avoid crowds

I am heartbroken for KC right now

[sewf]

I am pretty sure you don’t even need a license to carry in Missouri.

Fuck guns.

[dc2london]

New York criminal trial of TFG will begin March 25

[elle]

This is bananas.

Florida school asks parents for permission to have book by an African American author read to students

[elle]

[byjove]

[notblanche]

"Tucson teacher" uh huh

[byjove]

Feb 15, 2024 10:07:03 GMT -6 notblanche said:

"Tucson teacher" uh huh

I just can't believe anyone gave her a teaching job at this point. Yikes.

[byjove]

Ooof, I hadn't heard the shooter was underage. Screams into void over all of this.

[sewf]

Feb 15, 2024 11:51:46 GMT -6 byjove said:

Ooof, I hadn't heard the shooter was underage. Screams into void over all of this.

I heard three people detained. My uber driver this morning (so like, fourth hand information) said some of the people she drove yesterday said it was about a girl.

A woman is dead, children and other adults injured, because of a fight over a girl.

It’s all just so sad and avoidable.