Ali7P
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Post by Ali7P on Dec 1, 2017 15:06:41 GMT -6
Because everyone hangs out by their horse in lingerie 😂🙄🙄🙄 She has so many long ass rants on IG about mtv, it's nuts. 🥜🥜 Stars - they're just like us!
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milano
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Post by milano on Dec 2, 2017 14:26:50 GMT -6
This is my first time watching Mackenzie. I am not a fan. In fact, fuck her. I am going to tell you all you need to know about her. She was a teen mom herself. She grew up watching Teen Mom and thought she had the catch of a lifetime when she landed Ryan. She is 24 to Ryan's 30 and she moved in with him while still married to her ex. 'Catch of a lifetime'
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Post by milano on Dec 2, 2017 14:27:21 GMT -6
I did not realize Ryan is 4 years older than Maci Soo... He was 19/20 when he got her pregnant?
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Post by mrsweasley on Dec 2, 2017 14:43:00 GMT -6
I did not realize Ryan is 4 years older than Maci Soo... He was 19/20 when he got her pregnant? I'm pretty sure Maci was 17 when she got PG, which would make him 20/21
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Post by truffleshuffle on Dec 3, 2017 14:06:08 GMT -6
What is happening with that Farrah/horse photo? What was it for? Wait...I probably don't want to know
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Post by unicornofthesea on Dec 3, 2017 15:12:20 GMT -6
What is happening with that Farrah/horse photo? What was it for? Wait...I probably don't want to know Selling lingerie
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Post by wedding on Dec 3, 2017 17:13:12 GMT -6
I'm not hating on Mackenzie yet. I disagree with her but I think she has been in serious denial about Ryan and is looking for a scapegoat. She needs some Alanon.
As for Ryan and an 95% sure he was high on heroin in that car scene. My guess is that's his main addiction and supplements with things like Xanax.
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Post by lucylou on Dec 3, 2017 19:38:47 GMT -6
I thought Mackenzie was going to be great for Ryan when she first came around. But then she went and told Jen and Larry everything Macy told her about them in confidence. Didn't even give an F that the cameras were rolling. She's bad news and I don't believe for a second she didn't know Ryan was on drugs.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Dec 3, 2017 22:16:14 GMT -6
+1 for thinking it's more serious than pills.
People get hooked on pain killers then switch to heroin because it's cheaper..not that he can't afford it.. but who knows.
I never noticed the padlocks, etc in the episodes from them trying to keep Ryan out of their shit.
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Post by Ali7P on Dec 4, 2017 8:30:24 GMT -6
+1 for thinking it's more serious than pills. People get hooked on pain killers then switch to heroin because it's cheaper..not that he can't afford it.. but who knows. I never noticed the padlocks, etc in the episodes from them trying to keep Ryan out of their shit. I think more people noticed the padlocks after Jen and Larry had that falling out with Ryan. No one was talking about it at that point but it fueled more speculation.
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Post by betches on Dec 4, 2017 12:26:42 GMT -6
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Post by angelashly on Dec 4, 2017 13:31:05 GMT -6
Guys, Mackenzie can't help it that Maci is shoveling pills into Ryan's mouth against his will. So is it because Maci left him and then moved on to have a great family and he still is into her? or because of her nagging? I didn't watch so I don't know what her reasoning was behind blaming Maci
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Post by angelashly on Dec 4, 2017 13:31:55 GMT -6
Soo... He was 19/20 when he got her pregnant? I'm pretty sure Maci was 17 when she got PG, which would make him 20/21 Pretty sure he was 21 on their episode because he was at the bar a lot, but that could have been the first season of Teen Mom also
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Post by ArielMermaid on Dec 4, 2017 13:36:14 GMT -6
Guys, Mackenzie can't help it that Maci is shoveling pills into Ryan's mouth against his will. So is it because Maci left him and then moved on to have a great family and he still is into her? or because of her nagging? I didn't watch so I don't know what her reasoning was behind blaming Maci I honestly am not sure. It's hard to follow. But partially because "Maci won't let him see Bentley." I think?
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Post by angelashly on Dec 4, 2017 13:48:17 GMT -6
So is it because Maci left him and then moved on to have a great family and he still is into her? or because of her nagging? I didn't watch so I don't know what her reasoning was behind blaming Maci I honestly am not sure. It's hard to follow. But partially because "Maci won't let him see Bentley." I think?
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Post by Jesslfar on Dec 4, 2017 17:52:26 GMT -6
+1 for thinking it's more serious than pills. People get hooked on pain killers then switch to heroin because it's cheaper..not that he can't afford it.. but who knows. I never noticed the padlocks, etc in the episodes from them trying to keep Ryan out of their shit. 2 years ago it was pills. I would be shocked if it had not escalated from there. He has been super high in other scenes for years and the way he nods off it is a strong opiate of some kind.
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Post by Jesslfar on Dec 4, 2017 17:58:55 GMT -6
Guys, Mackenzie can't help it that Maci is shoveling pills into Ryan's mouth against his will. So is it because Maci left him and then moved on to have a great family and he still is into her? or because of her nagging? I didn't watch so I don't know what her reasoning was behind blaming Maci Maci is a trigger for Ryan. She never gives him credit and makes him look bad. His ex girlfriend Dalis said he got hooked because he was bored and looking for something to do during the day while she was in school as Ryan has been unemployed for years. Dalis did not say he became an addict because of this trauma of not getting to see his son or some other shit. Suddenly it is all Maci's fault and the world knowing about his addiction is also Maci's fault as his Ryan's parents or Mac not knowing he was using despite them living in the same area and hearing the same rumors, Ryan having previously been to rehab for this problem and stealing from his parents, but Maci is to blame because no one would have ever figured out what was going on from the years of footage of him high and he could have gotten help sooner if Maic (the only person in the world able to tell he was high) had spoken to Jen and Larry or Mac about what no other person could possibly know. Short version: Mac and Jen and Larry are embarrassed this became a discussion on TM and wish Maci had not spoken about it. Ryan's addiction has nothing to do with Maci except as a convenient excuse for his parents and wife to not be responsible.
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Post by angelashly on Dec 4, 2017 18:44:53 GMT -6
I can't roll my eyes more
Ryan has never been an interested father and that has been apparent since the show that both he and Maci has signed up for. His parents had his son every other weekend so if he wanted to go there he should have. In fact those same parents used to complain about the fact that he didn't take an interest in his son.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Dec 4, 2017 20:10:07 GMT -6
I wonder if Catelynn and Tyler would consider adopting a little boy, since Tyler wants one so bad.
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Post by cardboardpirate on Dec 4, 2017 20:18:29 GMT -6
Farrah’s realtor is the worst
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Post by ArielMermaid on Dec 4, 2017 20:38:28 GMT -6
I wish Amber would do something different with her hair.
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Post by Ali7P on Dec 4, 2017 20:39:25 GMT -6
Farrah’s realtor is the worst I was just coming here to say this. "Now that you have me, I'm going to take care of your daughter if you die". Single. White. Female.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Dec 4, 2017 20:41:51 GMT -6
Watching Ryan complain about Maci giving Bentley chores is rich. "I can't imagine if you guys did that to me." Maybe you would have a damn job and be a productive member of society. Possibly be a father to your son. Finally Jen voicing some reason there at the end.
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Post by Ali7P on Dec 4, 2017 21:19:07 GMT -6
Watching Ryan complain about Maci giving Bentley chores is rich. "I can't imagine if you guys did that to me." Maybe you would have a damn job and be a productive member of society. Possibly be a father to your son. Finally Jen voicing some reason there at the end. Right!? I thought the same thing. And I think Jen did too. My heart hurts for her.
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Post by crazydoglady on Dec 4, 2017 21:34:40 GMT -6
The situation with Farrah living with Michael feel like it won't stay peaceful very long 7 dogs and only 1.5 bathrooms??!!
I wish Tyler was more accepting of Catelynns hesitation about having another baby.
I cannot believe the entitlement all around that Ryan showed in this episode. Find some humility. Try having a conversation. He could not have approached Maci in a worse way. Having said that I dont think Maci is entitled to as much information as she thinks she is. While it would be nice to know the additional details I think all she needs to know is that Jen and Larry are supervising the visit and Bentley won't get in the car with Ryan period.
*I say that knowing very little about their custody agreement and assuming it is "ryans weekend"
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Post by shan-ah-doo on Dec 5, 2017 10:21:43 GMT -6
So Ryann has no after care lined up? I’m not very hopeful about this. My cousin is a heroin addict and everytime she’d get through rehab and had a ton of aftercar, she still relapses every year. Yes everyone is different, but he needs extensive aftercare to even get a chance.
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Post by Ali7P on Dec 5, 2017 10:57:33 GMT -6
So Ryann has no after care lined up? I’m not very hopeful about this. My cousin is a heroin addict and everytime she’d get through rehab and had a ton of aftercar, she still relapses every year. Yes everyone is different, but he needs extensive aftercare to even get a chance. I wondered the same thing. Mackenzie is not equipped to deal with this at all. I don't think any of them grasp the severity of the situation he's in.
I'm sorry about your cousin and that your family has to deal with that.
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Post by Jesslfar on Dec 5, 2017 11:13:31 GMT -6
Just watching now.
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Post by Jesslfar on Dec 5, 2017 11:14:46 GMT -6
I don't even want to make fun of the clothing line. That wedding photo and watching her fold clothing while discussing a baby she clearly isn't ready for is making me sad.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Dec 5, 2017 11:46:30 GMT -6
There were two episodes last night? I woke up to find another on my DVR.
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