Jesslfar
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Post by Jesslfar on Nov 29, 2017 11:25:23 GMT -6
He needed somewhere to live. I am not kidding, he has been living with this 35 year old single mother for months. He just moves onto another when he needs to. I'm sure he has exactly what issues she has conveniently as well.
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Post by Jesslfar on Nov 29, 2017 11:30:52 GMT -6
I thought people took Xanax to mask the effects of other drugs or tide them over in between? I doubt Xanax was his main addiction. He may have explained his use to her as being just Xanax, but he is using more than a prescription obtained legally would give out. His ex (Dallas) has given an interview saying he was addicted when they were together to roxycets and he went to rehab but did not complete it during their relationship. The speculation is he is using both drugs now he just got caught by Mac so he lied about the Xanax only.
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Post by honda on Nov 29, 2017 11:45:31 GMT -6
The season finale was just on MTV again. Jen and Larry at that wedding gave me a lot feels.
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Post by shan-ah-doo on Nov 29, 2017 15:35:30 GMT -6
I thought people took Xanax to mask the effects of other drugs or tide them over in between? I doubt Xanax was his main addiction. He may have explained his use to her as being just Xanax, but he is using more than a prescription obtained legally would give out. His ex (Dallas) has given an interview saying he was addicted when they were together to roxycets and he went to rehab but did not complete it during their relationship. The speculation is he is using both drugs now he just got caught by Mac so he lied about the Xanax only. What is roxycets? I also don’t get the Vicodin high either. I’m prescribed it once a year for my club foot and I have never gotten that euphoric feeling. Does it not get you high if you’re actually in pain?
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Post by Jesslfar on Nov 29, 2017 15:39:03 GMT -6
He may have explained his use to her as being just Xanax, but he is using more than a prescription obtained legally would give out. His ex (Dallas) has given an interview saying he was addicted when they were together to roxycets and he went to rehab but did not complete it during their relationship. The speculation is he is using both drugs now he just got caught by Mac so he lied about the Xanax only. What is roxycets? I also don’t get the Vicodin high either. I’m prescribed it once a year for my club foot and I have never gotten that euphoric feeling. Does it not get you high if you’re actually in pain? Oxycodone. I don't know much more about it than that.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Nov 29, 2017 15:40:24 GMT -6
He needed somewhere to live. I am not kidding, he has been living with this 35 year old single mother for months. He just moves onto another when he needs to. I'm sure he has exactly what issues she has conveniently as well. No doubt he's using her just to get by. I'm sure he's supplying some sort of dependency she has as well. Such a scum bag.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Nov 29, 2017 15:44:28 GMT -6
He may have explained his use to her as being just Xanax, but he is using more than a prescription obtained legally would give out. His ex (Dallas) has given an interview saying he was addicted when they were together to roxycets and he went to rehab but did not complete it during their relationship. The speculation is he is using both drugs now he just got caught by Mac so he lied about the Xanax only. What is roxycets? I also don’t get the Vicodin high either. I’m prescribed it once a year for my club foot and I have never gotten that euphoric feeling. Does it not get you high if you’re actually in pain? Only once have I ever felt the "high" from painkillers. It was actually right after my MC. I took them for a few days hoping to feel that high at that point in my life. But they mostly just make me feel sick. I guess I can see how it's addicting, but I don't have an addictive personality in the least bit so I also don't really get it. I also thought people just drank with Xanax?
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Post by shan-ah-doo on Nov 29, 2017 16:03:27 GMT -6
What is roxycets? I also don’t get the Vicodin high either. I’m prescribed it once a year for my club foot and I have never gotten that euphoric feeling. Does it not get you high if you’re actually in pain? Only once have I ever felt the "high" from painkillers. It was actually right after my MC. I took them for a few days hoping to feel that high at that point in my life. But they mostly just make me feel sick. I guess I can see how it's addicting, but I don't have an addictive personality in the least bit so I also don't really get it. I also thought people just drank with Xanax? I don’t get it.
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Post by Nonniedee on Nov 29, 2017 16:26:24 GMT -6
Only once have I ever felt the "high" from painkillers. It was actually right after my MC. I took them for a few days hoping to feel that high at that point in my life. But they mostly just make me feel sick. I guess I can see how it's addicting, but I don't have an addictive personality in the least bit so I also don't really get it. I also thought people just drank with Xanax? I don’t get it. Me neither. After I had the boy I wad given half a Percocet. I couldn't even walk. I was high as a kite. They had to give me some time to come down before I could even hold him.
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Post by hardlyluck on Nov 29, 2017 17:24:04 GMT -6
Me neither. After I had the boy I wad given half a Percocet. I couldn't even walk. I was high as a kite. They had to give me some time to come down before I could even hold him. I think so much of comes down to the individual, muscle relaxers will knock me the F out, like don’t expect me to be coherent for at least 8 hours. MH on the other hand has to take twice as much to affect him and every once in awhile instead of relaxing him it gives him some serious can’t sit still antsies.
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Post by milano on Nov 29, 2017 20:37:38 GMT -6
David always looks bored when Deb is talking to him. He is just so odd to me. His hair is weird, that stupid earring is weird and his clothes are weird. He’s weird. So MH is being Santa Claus for a kids thing on Saturday and he just walked into the living room wearing his Santa hair and all I could think of was debs creepy new husband. So much eww.
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Nov 30, 2017 7:42:41 GMT -6
Opiates are also seriously easy to get addicted to. I was on painkillers for a period of time due to a sports injury followed by a few surgeries to correct the issue in college. Totally legit, took less than the recommended dose, etc. I decided I could downgrade to Motrin on my own and got SO SO sick. I went to urgent care bc I thought I had the flu. NOPE. I was experiencing low level withdrawals bc I quit cold turkey. It’s insane how quickly it can happen. The drugs also made me very thin and gave me a ton a energy so I can completely understand why some one would be like NO WAY I’m going to quit these things.
A little weed isn’t 1% the gateway drug that a prescription painkiller is.
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Post by Ali7P on Nov 30, 2017 9:03:54 GMT -6
Me neither. After I had the boy I wad given half a Percocet. I couldn't even walk. I was high as a kite. They had to give me some time to come down before I could even hold him. I was offered Percocet after I had DD1 but I declined because I felt I didn't need it and I'd never taken a painkiller like that before so I didn't know how it would affect me. The nurse offered it a few more times telling me "not to be a hero". No one offered me anything other than motrin after my 2nd kid.
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Post by Ali7P on Nov 30, 2017 9:15:20 GMT -6
So, I finally had a chance to watch the episode. I really like seeing Amber, Maci & Cate supporting each other at the reunion. It makes me crazy that Mac blames Ryan's drug use on Maci. Yes, Maci may be a trigger for him but that doesn't make any of this her fault!
I'm glad to see Amber has moved on, I hope she can find some peace & happiness with this new guy.
I liked seeing Michael stand up for Farrah. I wish he could have kept his emotions in check long enough to really get through to this creep (or at least make the attempt), it seems like it escalated quickly. I also didn't like that when he told Farrah about the incident he was like "out of respect for you, I didn't hit him" (something like that). It seemed like is was kissing ass or bringing it back around to how it's always about what Farrah wants.
Also, I'm gonna need to get a baby goat!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:40:52 GMT -6
Opiates are also seriously easy to get addicted to. I was on painkillers for a period of time due to a sports injury followed by a few surgeries to correct the issue in college. Totally legit, took less than the recommended dose, etc. I decided I could downgrade to Motrin on my own and got SO SO sick. I went to urgent care bc I thought I had the flu. NOPE. I was experiencing low level withdrawals bc I quit cold turkey. It’s insane how quickly it can happen. The drugs also made me very thin and gave me a ton a energy so I can completely understand why some one would be like NO WAY I’m going to quit these things. A little weed isn’t 1% the gateway drug that a prescription painkiller is. This was DD after her first surgery. We tried to go cold turkey to Tylenol on day 5, and the results were... not pretty. We ended up having to wean her off. We were smarter about it the second time around. It's frustrating that doctors aren't upfront about the potential.
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Post by Ali7P on Nov 30, 2017 9:44:56 GMT -6
Opiates are also seriously easy to get addicted to. I was on painkillers for a period of time due to a sports injury followed by a few surgeries to correct the issue in college. Totally legit, took less than the recommended dose, etc. I decided I could downgrade to Motrin on my own and got SO SO sick. I went to urgent care bc I thought I had the flu. NOPE. I was experiencing low level withdrawals bc I quit cold turkey. It’s insane how quickly it can happen. The drugs also made me very thin and gave me a ton a energy so I can completely understand why some one would be like NO WAY I’m going to quit these things. A little weed isn’t 1% the gateway drug that a prescription painkiller is. This was DD after her first surgery. We tried to go cold turkey to Tylenol on day 5, and the results were... not pretty. We ended up having to wean her off. We were smarter about it the second time around. It's frustrating that doctors aren't upfront about the potential. That's awful that they don't give you any idea of what to expect!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:57:46 GMT -6
This was DD after her first surgery. We tried to go cold turkey to Tylenol on day 5, and the results were... not pretty. We ended up having to wean her off. We were smarter about it the second time around. It's frustrating that doctors aren't upfront about the potential. That's awful that they don't give you any idea of what to expect! When we called freaking out, they had us bring her in right away, did a neuro assessment, and suggested the drugs as the case. I would not be entirely surprised if they told one or both of us at the hospital during discharge and we were just so psyched to go home that we blocked it out that time was such a blur. I'm pretty confident that if they had mentioned it along the way vs. right when we were leaving, I'd have remembered.
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Post by icedcoffee on Nov 30, 2017 10:19:44 GMT -6
I was given Percocet this time around since I had a csection. I never really took painkillers before that I can remember. I ended up having the nurses switch me to a Motrin/Tylenol combo after like 2 days because I hated how I felt. I was even in pain and it made me high as fuck. I kept nodding off and felt like my eyes would unfocus. It was no fun and I was scared to hold/carry DD
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Post by Ali7P on Nov 30, 2017 12:11:35 GMT -6
That's awful that they don't give you any idea of what to expect! When we called freaking out, they had us bring her in right away, did a neuro assessment, and suggested the drugs as the case. I would not be entirely surprised if they told one or both of us at the hospital during discharge and we were just so psyched to go home that we blocked it out that time was such a blur. I'm pretty confident that if they had mentioned it along the way vs. right when we were leaving, I'd have remembered. Yea, that should have been explicitly gone over and then directions on how to wean and what to expect should be printed out for parents/patients.
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Post by NamasteBirches on Nov 30, 2017 12:15:52 GMT -6
Percocet just puts me to sleep. I've only gotten it after surgery. Doesn't help with pain. At least for me.
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Post by robot on Nov 30, 2017 15:16:41 GMT -6
Mackenzie is the worst. I kind of liked her at first, she seemed like she was good for Ryan, but she's bullshit. Pretending she didn't know is so stupid and that letter was awful. She wants to wash her hands of the responsibility.
Deb's creepy husband also sucks. "I'm a doctor." Glad Michael called him on that. He weirds me out so much. The entire family dynamics there are just bizarre though and uncomfortable to watch.
That psychic podcast was.... something.
Catelynn and Tyler continue to do their thing. Buying horses and houses. KOKO I guess.
Maci's little kids look so grown up to me all of a sudden. They're cuties. I was kind of wondering where Taylor was all episode though.
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Post by joy on Nov 30, 2017 20:48:42 GMT -6
Oh did u mean Debras past lol No, I meant Farrah. But I didn't realize Deb had been a teen mom too [ No, I think that info was about Mackenzie, not Deb. Mackenzie was a teen mom - she’s 20 and has a three year old boy named Hudson. I didn’t know she was previously married.
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Post by wasabi on Dec 1, 2017 12:07:43 GMT -6
This is my first time watching Mackenzie. I am not a fan. In fact, fuck her.
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Post by Ali7P on Dec 1, 2017 12:35:11 GMT -6
This is my first time watching Mackenzie. I am not a fan. In fact, fuck her. So, at first it seemed like she was good for Ryan. He was showing up more for Bentley and even Maci said she liked her & thought she was a good influence.
But as we saw more of her, I began to share the same opinion as you. But I still felt badly for her. Until she married Ryan while he was high as a kite and is now blaming his addiction on Maci.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Dec 1, 2017 12:48:04 GMT -6
Guys, Mackenzie can't help it that Maci is shoveling pills into Ryan's mouth against his will.
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Post by Jesslfar on Dec 1, 2017 14:23:09 GMT -6
This is my first time watching Mackenzie. I am not a fan. In fact, fuck her. I am going to tell you all you need to know about her. She was a teen mom herself. She grew up watching Teen Mom and thought she had the catch of a lifetime when she landed Ryan. She is 24 to Ryan's 30 and she moved in with him while still married to her ex.
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Post by wasabi on Dec 1, 2017 14:25:14 GMT -6
This is my first time watching Mackenzie. I am not a fan. In fact, fuck her. I am going to tell you all you need to know about her. She was a teen mom herself. She grew up watching Teen Mom and thought she had the catch of a lifetime when she landed Ryan. She is 24 to Ryan's 30 and she moved in with him while still married to her ex.
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Post by mrsweasley on Dec 1, 2017 14:40:17 GMT -6
I did not realize Ryan is 4 years older than Maci
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Post by unicornofthesea on Dec 1, 2017 14:45:22 GMT -6
Because everyone hangs out by their horse in lingerie 😂🙄🙄🙄 She has so many long ass rants on IG about mtv, it's nuts. 🥜🥜
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Post by robot on Dec 1, 2017 14:51:59 GMT -6
This is my first time watching Mackenzie. I am not a fan. In fact, fuck her. I am going to tell you all you need to know about her. She was a teen mom herself. She grew up watching Teen Mom and thought she had the catch of a lifetime when she landed Ryan. She is 24 to Ryan's 30 and she moved in with him while still married to her ex. You forgot the part where she looks 35. I cannot put my finger on why but I am forever shocked every time I hear her age.
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