Madeleine McCann: 10 Years Later

[longhornwino]

Did anyone catch this on Oxygen this past weekend? I missed it and tried to watch it over my lunch break just now, but can't seem to find the actual show on their website. Just blog posts. Frustrating.

Anyway, if anyone watched it or has spiraled on this one, let's chat!

[Lord Disick]

I spiraled on this case over the summer. I think that the parents drugged and accidentally killed her and dumped the body somewhere but I want real answers, damnit.

[leatherpants]

I just recently came out of a Madeleine McCann spiral.

What did the show think? Did they lead to any conclusion?

I have such a hard time thinking how her parents might have been involved in her disappearance/death but also I can't ignore things like that missing blue bag and the cadaver dogs, and the complete lack of evidence of anyone else. It seems so hard to rule them out.

I do think though that they were somewhat arrogant thinking - them and all of the other dinner guests - and their arrogance came off as suspicious. I also think they really minimized or outright lied about other things in an effort to be less judged at leaving the kids in the rooms while they went to eat and other parenting decisions. And I think that comes off suspicious but not necessarily as evidence.

[sherminator]

I thought this was going to be about Madeleine Kahn. the actress. Doh.

[longhornwino]

leatherpants, I’m hoping I can find the show tomorrow and watch it.

I agree the parents are super suspicious. I don’t want to believe parents would do something like that, but they just always seemed off to me.

[joy]

Ten years?! Wow.

I clearly am not up on the case as I thought it was widely assumed that Madeleine was kidnapped and now lost to a dark world. But, it was years ago that I last paid attention.

[longhornwino]

The Oxygen website is finally giving me the option to watch the video! BRB.

[longhornwino]

So, nothing groundbreaking in the documentary, not surprisingly. I'm pretty appalled at the fact that the British and Portuguese police departments never really worked well together. I think maybe if there had been more cooperation, instead of each brushing off the other, maybe there would have been more information discovered or leads pursued? Who knows.

I really don't know what to believe. The burglary theory sounds plausible until they mentioned that absolutely nothing was taken from the apartment EXCEPT Maddie. One guy showed it was possible to break in through the window without causing damage, but I feel like something else would have been missing if it had been the same people who had burglarized the area in the weeks leading up to her disappearance. I think the parents are coming off as sketchy because they don't want to be seen as being horrible parents for leaving the kids alone in the apart while they had dinner and drinks. I wonder if they didn't check in as often as they claimed, so they'd been at dinner for an hour or more before checking in and finding Maddie gone. It would, of course, be to their benefit to be truthful about that and face whatever backlash because then there's a wider time frame when Maddie could have gone missing. Makes it harder, but also if they're not finding anything for the 9:50 timeframe, then...?

I read somewhere that maybe Maddie left the apartment on her own to go find her parents. She would have had to walk on a public road to get to the restaurant and could have been picked up there. It's all speculation at this point, and I don't think there will ever be closure in this case.

[leatherpants]

Nov 9, 2017 10:13:32 GMT -6 longhornwino said:

So, nothing groundbreaking in the documentary, not surprisingly. I'm pretty appalled at the fact that the British and Portuguese police departments never really worked well together. I think maybe if there had been more cooperation, instead of each brushing off the other, maybe there would have been more information discovered or leads pursued? Who knows.

I really don't know what to believe. The burglary theory sounds plausible until they mentioned that absolutely nothing was taken from the apartment EXCEPT Maddie. One guy showed it was possible to break in through the window without causing damage, but I feel like something else would have been missing if it had been the same people who had burglarized the area in the weeks leading up to her disappearance. I think the parents are coming off as sketchy because they don't want to be seen as being horrible parents for leaving the kids alone in the apart while they had dinner and drinks. I wonder if they didn't check in as often as they claimed, so they'd been at dinner for an hour or more before checking in and finding Maddie gone. It would, of course, be to their benefit to be truthful about that and face whatever backlash because then there's a wider time frame when Maddie could have gone missing. Makes it harder, but also if they're not finding anything for the 9:50 timeframe, then...?

I read somewhere that maybe Maddie left the apartment on her own to go find her parents. She would have had to walk on a public road to get to the restaurant and could have been picked up there. It's all speculation at this point, and I don't think there will ever be closure in this case.

This is exactly what I was trying to say and you did so much better. Like there is no way you were sending someone every 5 mins. If you were, someone would've just stayed behind. But I think they said that to save face and then it got them into a heap they couldn't get out of without then admitting they lied, which makes them look like liars and neglectful (arguably).

I could absolutely buy into the theory that she walked out of the room herself to find her parents, got lost or found by someone and things spiraled. Like I have this whole idea that she got found by a young girl on the streets, who took her back to wherever she was going or something and then things got carried away. But then the blue bag doesn't make sense and the dogs marking on where the bag was. How do you explain that?

Man this case drives me crazy.

[shan-ah-doo]

Anyone know where I can find this? Bummed I missed it.

[shan-ah-doo]

Nov 9, 2017 16:36:59 GMT -6 nochill said:

Nov 9, 2017 14:21:30 GMT -6 shan-ah-doo said:

Anyone know where I can find this? Bummed I missed it.

Do you have cable or dish? You can download the oxygen app and cast it to your TV if you have your TV provider log in.

i have direct I’ll see if it’s on demand. Do you happen to know the title?

[longhornwino]

Nov 9, 2017 16:54:46 GMT -6 shan-ah-doo said:

Nov 9, 2017 16:36:59 GMT -6 nochill said:

Do you have cable or dish? You can download the oxygen app and cast it to your TV if you have your TV provider log in.

i have direct I’ll see if it’s on demand. Do you happen to know the title?

Madeleine McCann: 10 Years Later

[shan-ah-doo]

Thank you!

[shan-ah-doo]

Oh. It’s the title of the thread.

[Lord Disick]

The McCanns really ruined neglectful parenting for all of us. Like, that vacation sounds amazing other than that one really big bad thing that happened.

I'm going to feel like a monster if I'm the only one who's ever thought this.

[longhornwino]

Lord Disick, I think a lot has been ruined by the viral videos, pictures, and news stories. I feel like I can’t even run inside to drop off a UPS shipment and leave my kid in the car. Because someone will come along, see her in there, make assumptions, and get me accused of neglect.

I personally wouldn’t feel comfortable being at that restaurant while my kiddo slept, but that’s my anxiety talking. Some parents are comfortable being a little further away to give their kids a quiet space while enjoying themselves, and I don’t think that’s neglectful when done right. I just question that this group “did it right” or even did it as they explained to police.

[Lord Disick]

Nov 9, 2017 18:12:37 GMT -6 longhornwino said:

Lord Disick, I think a lot has been ruined by the viral videos, pictures, and news stories. I feel like I can’t even run inside to drop off a UPS shipment and leave my kid in the car. Because someone will come along, see her in there, make assumptions, and get me accused of neglect.

I personally wouldn’t feel comfortable being at that restaurant while my kiddo slept, but that’s my anxiety talking. Some parents are comfortable being a little further away to give their kids a quiet space while enjoying themselves, and I don’t think that’s neglectful when done right. I just question that this group “did it right” or even did it as they explained to police.

I also think that they lied about how often they were checking on them.

[emma]

Nov 9, 2017 17:26:48 GMT -6 Lord Disick said:

The McCanns really ruined neglectful parenting for all of us. Like, that vacation sounds amazing other than that one really big bad thing that happened.

I'm going to feel like a monster if I'm the only one who's ever thought this.

I’ve been on vacation there many times and it really is beautiful and a fantastic vacation spot. I was actually there a couple months after she went missing 😬

[bbgirl]

Nov 8, 2017 17:21:29 GMT -6 Lord Disick said:

I spiraled on this case over the summer. I think that the parents drugged and accidentally killed her and dumped the body somewhere but I want real answers, damnit.

This is where I have been since the beginning.  

I think they wanted her to sleep while they went to the dinner, but accidentally overdosed her, and panicked.  I think they somehow hid the body until they disposed of it 3 weeks later. 

The cadaver dogs pinging the vehicle they rented after her death is just... too suspicious.  Plus, their affect the entire time was really off.  

It is one of those cases, like JonBenet, where the family knows exactly what happened, but the public may never actually get any answers.