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Post by justkeepmoving on Oct 30, 2017 7:21:30 GMT -6
So the indictments arent too exciting since they’re not related to the Russia investigation but these still sound like a big deal. I hope Manafort and Gates flip. And the news is stating that more charges could still come for Manafort and Gates later down the road.
I hope more charges do come down the road that include Kushner, Jr, Trump, Pence, ...
Also love that these are tax charges. The one thing that finally brought down Al Capone. Maybe it will be the thing that gets these two to flip to bring down the rest?
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 7:22:08 GMT -6
Talking heads are positing that this was filed in order to avoid statute of limitations on some of these financial crimes. There could be more coming
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:22:21 GMT -6
Per this congressional report, the underlying charges are what will give him more time: "One, 18 U.S.C. 371, outlaws conspiracy to commit some other federal crime. The others outlaw conspiracy to engage in various specific forms of proscribed conduct. General Section 371 conspiracies are punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years; drug trafficking, terrorist, and racketeering conspiracies all carry the same penalties as their underlying substantive offenses, and thus are punished more severely than are Section 371 conspiracies. All are subject to fines of not more than $250,000 (not more than $500,000 for organizations); most may serve as the basis for a restitution order, and some for a forfeiture order." fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41223.pdf
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Post by charlotte on Oct 30, 2017 7:23:49 GMT -6
Kush has deleted all his tweets. Who are these amateurs?! Don’t they know the Internet is forever?
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Post by coconutbacon on Oct 30, 2017 7:27:34 GMT -6
Apparently I’ve forgotten how to gif. But I’m feeling very:
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Post by oreobitsy on Oct 30, 2017 7:29:42 GMT -6
What did Kush even tweet about? Doesn't he know deleting tweets just makes people more curious? He has to know they can be retrieved. That's Internet 101. You all are a treasure trove of links and info today already. I have to work my full day and am hoping I can keep up later. crunch, I feel your pain of working!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:30:55 GMT -6
The judge hearing the case is an Obama appointee and from her Wikipedia page: "On May 26, 2017, she dismissed a wrongful death suit filed against Hillary Clinton by the parents of two of the Americans killed in the 2012 attack on the American diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya."
Brace yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:33:10 GMT -6
Yikes.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 30, 2017 7:35:04 GMT -6
Omg I'm here. I was in class for the last 2 hours and my phone kept buzzing from mh updating me.
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Post by summerbabe on Oct 30, 2017 7:36:22 GMT -6
Gosh can we like sabotage the lunch and have the waiter pour a glass of water on someone's lap
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Post by pobre on Oct 30, 2017 7:36:39 GMT -6
Guys, work has been insane and will continue to be for probably the rest of the year. I want to be here for this, dammit.
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Post by kitchen on Oct 30, 2017 7:40:53 GMT -6
For anyone who really wants to get zero work done today, fivethirtyeight has a liveblog of the indictments: OMG WHY WHON'T MY CHILDREN GET THEMSELVES READY AND OFF TO SCHOOL SO THAT I CAN DO THIS IN PEACE?! I WANT TO DO THIS. eta: didn't mean to shout. caps lock was on.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Oct 30, 2017 7:45:23 GMT -6
Please someone tell me there is a press briefing today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:46:11 GMT -6
This is interesting. No mention of Manafort's Trump Tower condo in the indictment...maybe for a reason?
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Post by crunch on Oct 30, 2017 7:46:13 GMT -6
Omfg music was canceled because they couldn’t find a sub.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:47:44 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 7:49:05 GMT -6
Omfg music was canceled because they couldn’t find a sub. EXTRA RECESS!!!!
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Post by charlotte on Oct 30, 2017 7:52:23 GMT -6
Omfg music was canceled because they couldn’t find a sub. It’s movie day, kids.
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Post by crunch on Oct 30, 2017 7:54:20 GMT -6
We put in an educational video for 20 minutes. I’m the aide today and sitting with the kids while they watch. We never watch videos.
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Post by byjove on Oct 30, 2017 7:57:41 GMT -6
Fascinating read with some amazing pictures of Boehner
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Post by tater on Oct 30, 2017 7:58:57 GMT -6
I can never be super active in these threads because work, but I will be lurking the hell out of this today.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 30, 2017 7:58:58 GMT -6
Kush has deleted all his tweets. But the internet never forgets. Kush apparently hasnt learned that lesson. I wouldnt be surprised if it was some interns job to screen shot every single tweet that comes out of anyone connected to 45 Did he delete? Has he ever tweeted? Mh is saying he never tweets.
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Post by cakewench on Oct 30, 2017 8:01:56 GMT -6
So... their defense is "We hired shitty people, not our fault"?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 8:03:45 GMT -6
Fascinating read with some amazing pictures of Boehner This is what I distracted myself with last night. It's long but very worth reading.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Oct 30, 2017 8:08:25 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Oct 30, 2017 8:08:37 GMT -6
So... their defense is "We hired shitty people, not our fault"? But Trump only hires the best people. The Best!
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Post by Eames on Oct 30, 2017 8:09:39 GMT -6
I haven't been around much, but I am here for this!!!
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 8:12:14 GMT -6
So... their defense is "We hired shitty people, not our fault"? "nothing to see here people" Yeah thats not gonna work.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 8:12:46 GMT -6
SHS is scheduled to brief at 1 Eastern today
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Post by sheilathetank on Oct 30, 2017 8:13:24 GMT -6
I'm going to do my best to keep up today. Stupid work is not letting up, but I'll be damned if I miss this part of history.
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