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Post by cherrytomato on Oct 30, 2017 6:21:14 GMT -6
They are saying it is past bad deeds from years ago. They are downplaying his involvement in Trumps election campaign. Saying that once Trump became aware of his Ukraine connections that he then brought in Kellyanne and Steve Bannon.
Oh, and now they are talking about Obama’s connection to Fusion GPS.
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Post by cherrytomato on Oct 30, 2017 6:21:50 GMT -6
They went to “but Hillary” very quickly.
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Post by cherrytomato on Oct 30, 2017 6:22:22 GMT -6
And back to commercials.
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Post by mathrun on Oct 30, 2017 6:23:00 GMT -6
Well this is a terrifying thread.
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pesto
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Post by pesto on Oct 30, 2017 6:26:10 GMT -6
Have a good day, Paul!
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Post by crunch on Oct 30, 2017 6:29:28 GMT -6
But her emails!!!!
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Oct 30, 2017 6:29:51 GMT -6
We lost power last night and I'm so sad I can't watch this. Thank God for you ladies keeping me updated!
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pesto
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Post by pesto on Oct 30, 2017 6:32:50 GMT -6
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Post by charlotte on Oct 30, 2017 6:33:56 GMT -6
It’s Mueller time!
Manafort is going to flip. I refuse to believe otherwise.
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Post by bugglesbee on Oct 30, 2017 6:43:47 GMT -6
Well this is a terrifying thread. I refuse to get excited because my pessimistic self believes nothing will sway his "base" and the quoted thread will play out. There will be outrage, new craziness and the cycle will continue. I am still at a loss to understand how people wk Trump. It's absolutely crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 6:45:05 GMT -6
Fox is basically saying, yeah, okay, this has NOTHING to do with Trump though.
Reporting to you live from a Trump loving office that always has Fox News on.
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Post by Bookshelves on Oct 30, 2017 6:45:24 GMT -6
HERE FOR IT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 6:46:19 GMT -6
I feel warm and tingly.
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pesto
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Post by pesto on Oct 30, 2017 6:52:10 GMT -6
Imagine knowing you owe 60 million to a Russian oligarch and being asked this question. Cringe.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Oct 30, 2017 6:54:24 GMT -6
How long before Trump is all "I barely knew the guy"? Gates is surrendering too, and he worked with the campaign a lot longer than Manafort. Can someone remind me who Gates is? I don't remember him.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 30, 2017 6:55:31 GMT -6
Vox article: what will republicans do when trump fires Mueller? ETA this link goes to the news & guts fbook page that links to the box article. I’m challenged this AM
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:01:45 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 7:04:59 GMT -6
Can someone remind me who Gates is? I don't remember him. He's a pro-Russia lobbyist and long time business associate of Manafort's. He worked with Trump's campaign in several different positions. My understanding is that he was there through the inauguration. They were reporting he was on the inaugural committee and stayed longer than Manafort. Then went to the lobby group that continued to work with 45 administration closely. Amy Siskind was saying thats more interesting than Manafort.
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Post by oreobitsy on Oct 30, 2017 7:06:08 GMT -6
I'm so happy to see something important is finally happening! Now I have to figure out how Gates is involved with Trump, I wasn't expecting another person today.
Remember when Manafort was trying to get immunity (that was him, right)? I hope he immediately talks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:07:03 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:08:45 GMT -6
Conspiracy against the United States
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 7:09:30 GMT -6
12 counts??
Wow.
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Post by cakewench on Oct 30, 2017 7:11:26 GMT -6
Kush has deleted all his tweets.
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Post by cakewench on Oct 30, 2017 7:13:06 GMT -6
I puton Fox News to see what their chatter is. So far, just commercials while everyone else is showing Manafort surrendering.
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Post by Minerva on Oct 30, 2017 7:15:03 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:15:49 GMT -6
Conspiracy against the United States /photo/1
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 30, 2017 7:15:53 GMT -6
Kush has deleted all his tweets. But the internet never forgets. Kush apparently hasnt learned that lesson. I wouldnt be surprised if it was some interns job to screen shot every single tweet that comes out of anyone connected to 45
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:18:26 GMT -6
From that Wired article I posted earlier:
"Expect to see garden-variety white-collar crimes—charges like money laundering, mail fraud, wire fraud, and “structuring,” (arranging financial transactions to avoid federal reporting requirements)—as well as the possibility of some more exotic charges like violating the nation’s election laws or the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, or there’s a general catch-all known as 18 USC Sec. 371, “conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States.”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 7:20:01 GMT -6
That 18 USC Sec 371 is listed in the indictment.
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Minerva
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Post by Minerva on Oct 30, 2017 7:20:07 GMT -6
First and foremost, Conspiracy against the United States. That sounds pretty bad.
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