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Post by brux on Oct 10, 2017 20:46:52 GMT -6
This 🙌
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Post by brux on Oct 10, 2017 20:48:44 GMT -6
It was a clunky start but I loved this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 23:24:54 GMT -6
H just sent it to me. Daaaamn!
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 11, 2017 1:33:14 GMT -6
This is awesome.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 11, 2017 3:23:42 GMT -6
This is awesome.
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Post by JukEboX on Oct 11, 2017 6:10:33 GMT -6
I got on this last night. 2 things!
1. I am hoping his new album in November will be full of this kind of stuff. He has the platform and the history of bringing up issues in the USA and he could really make a movement to fix things and for change by charging and rallying younger people. I really hope that is what happens. I hope one of his songs is based on this and goes all over the radio and it starts conversation and action...... Or it is just meh like some of his recent work.
2. I hope Trump starts a twitter war with him because I can guarantee you that only person I know in the celebrity world that doesn't back down from a fight like Trump is Eminem. And he will make jump look a fool by the time its over.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 11, 2017 6:39:09 GMT -6
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Post by sterling on Oct 11, 2017 7:37:36 GMT -6
I love how some articles are saying "people are torn". They post tweets from Lebron and Kaepernick basically standing in solidarity with Eminem, and then a few objections from random Trump followers that literally have "MAGA" in their Twitter profiles. Perhaps this is how "fair and balanced" media works. Or Twitter. I admit I'm not well versed in what the hell Twitter is doing and can barely even read the format or tell who is replying/speaking to whom. Twitter is the dumpster fire of America as well as occasionally moving AF things. It's really the best/worst.
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Post by crunch on Oct 11, 2017 7:44:07 GMT -6
This made me laugh.
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Post by sterling on Oct 11, 2017 7:59:50 GMT -6
How can I go on Twitter and see reactions to this? Do I just search a hashtag? I feel like a geriatric. Search Eminem in the search bar. You'll see tweets about it and can click on a tweet if there are replies to it and read those. Attn: beware anyone with MAGA and/or Deplorable in their SN.
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Post by crunch on Oct 11, 2017 8:10:19 GMT -6
I caution searching on twitter lol, it really is full of the lowest scum of the earth
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 8:14:31 GMT -6
The only thing that makes me take a pause with him is that Eminem has used bigoted, misogynistic, etc lyrics in the past. He was praised for those things in the past. I don't give passes for that. Just because he's now saying things doesn't take away from the things he's said in the past to me.
I'm glad he's using his platform to say something, but I find it hipocritial of him to say he stands against these Trumpisms when he has rapped the things he has rapped about. I dot know if I'm articulating this right.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 11, 2017 8:16:15 GMT -6
miawallace, I think that is fair. I will give people room to grow, and I will admit I don't follow Eminem enough to know if he has grown past that point of his career. Like I know Jay Z specifically came out and said he couldn't say bitch in a song anymore because he realized finally it was demeaning.
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Post by blurnette989 on Oct 11, 2017 8:16:43 GMT -6
I take everything from this twitter with many grains of salt, but still funny:
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 8:19:32 GMT -6
I take everything from this twitter with many grains of salt, but still funny: Please MAKE IT STOP!!!!! doesnt he have anything better to do?? Like chase a fucking golf ball around a course?
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 8:21:56 GMT -6
The only thing that makes me take a pause with him is that Eminem has used bigoted, misogynistic, etc lyrics in the past. He was praised for those things in the past. I don't give passes for that. Just because he's now saying things doesn't take away from the things he's said in the past to me. I'm glad he's using his platform to say something, but I find it hipocritial of him to say he stands against these Trumpisms when he has rapped the things he has rapped about. I dot know if I'm articulating this right. I'm just saying he got a lot of leeway as a white rapper to say Terrible stuff. He benefited from his whiteness and still is benefiting from it because we'rent we just talking about cam? Im not speaking about his personal growth. I'm speaking to his overall career and what he has said in the past. He doesn't get a pass from me for that reason. But I hold grudges.
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Post by crunch on Oct 11, 2017 8:22:29 GMT -6
The only thing that makes me take a pause with him is that Eminem has used bigoted, misogynistic, etc lyrics in the past. He was praised for those things in the past. I don't give passes for that. Just because he's now saying things doesn't take away from the things he's said in the past to me. I'm glad he's using his platform to say something, but I find it hipocritial of him to say he stands against these Trumpisms when he has rapped the things he has rapped about. I dot know if I'm articulating this right. This is where the trump fans are trying to push the conversation from what I’ve seen on twitter. That liberals are now supporting someone with all of those lyrics in his past. I’m not someone that buys Eminem albums or goes to his concerts but I see the value of Last night and I retweeted it. (Lol i only have a few followers)
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 8:26:45 GMT -6
The only thing that makes me take a pause with him is that Eminem has used bigoted, misogynistic, etc lyrics in the past. He was praised for those things in the past. I don't give passes for that. Just because he's now saying things doesn't take away from the things he's said in the past to me. I'm glad he's using his platform to say something, but I find it hipocritial of him to say he stands against these Trumpisms when he has rapped the things he has rapped about. I dot know if I'm articulating this right. This is where the trump fans are trying to push the conversation from what I’ve seen on twitter. That liberals are now supporting someone with all of those lyrics in his past. I’m not someone that buys Eminem albums or goes to his concerts but I see the value of Last night and I retweeted it. (Lol i only have a few followers) Allies say just as many problematic things as trumpets. That's where I'm getting at. Tina fey didn't get a pass from me. Just because they claim to be allies or going against trump doesn't mean I don't hold them accountable for what they say. I'm holding Eminem to this same principle. He's a white dude that has benefited from saying awful things just like our president.
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Post by crunch on Oct 11, 2017 8:29:17 GMT -6
This is where the trump fans are trying to push the conversation from what I’ve seen on twitter. That liberals are now supporting someone with all of those lyrics in his past. I’m not someone that buys Eminem albums or goes to his concerts but I see the value of Last night and I retweeted it. (Lol i only have a few followers) Allies say just as many problematic things as trumpets. That's where I'm getting at. Tina fey didn't get a pass from me. Just because they claim to be allies or going against trump doesn't mean I don't hold them accountable for what they say. I'm holding Eminem to this same principle. He's a white dude that has benefited from saying awful things just like our president. I totally agree with you. 100%. I was just kinda adding what I saw on twitter.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 11, 2017 8:30:29 GMT -6
Eminem has always been problematic. That’s definitely no secret. I don’t pay enough attention to him to know about personal growth or whatever, I assume the same issues remain with him.
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Post by silverspoon on Oct 11, 2017 8:33:07 GMT -6
I take everything from this twitter with many grains of salt, but still funny: To think we've come to a point where this isn't definitely just a joke. Like, there is a nonzero chance this might actually be happening.
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 9:21:39 GMT -6
I don't think there are many people who have a squeaky clean record of saying or doing all the right things in the past. I'm not saying to look at anything in a total vacuum, but I also don't think every last think Eminem has said in the past can be taken against this specific video. Just my own two cents. I don't like him. I found him offensive then. So Maybe that's my personal bias with him. I'll admit it. But my overall sentiment with all this is the disparity in treatment between white folks exercising free speech and black folks. Haven't black folks and poc being saying all the things he just said? Yet, he gets credit for being the enlightened white dude. I'm just jaded I guess. Kendrick Lamar has songs very similar to Eminems rap rant. But lots of black folks go unnoticed because they don't have the white voice. Not sure if I'm making sense. My life is colored to see things very differently. I hate being so hyper aware of this stuff that it kills so many things for me. It's so exhausting. I heard he's set to release a record in November or something. There isn't a part of me that doesn't stop and go "wait a second..." like is he trying to profit from his whiteness once again? Sorry for the rant. It's not against you. Just everything going on.
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Post by boots on Oct 11, 2017 9:33:59 GMT -6
HilarityEnsued says it much more eloquently than I could. I am choosing to focus on the positives while not completely ignoring the negatives. I am glad that he is using his platform this way. I am pretty upset by all the people staying silent right now. As we all know too well, this is not normal.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 9:41:44 GMT -6
I'm not mia but I think its more of a white savior thing (from what I'm seeing elsewhere). Like hes been problematic in the past and because he says something now, even though many many poc have said it over and over again, he gets listened to and applauded because of his privilege. People who already dislike potus are going to applaud and people who are maga are just going to boycott one more thing.
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 9:48:13 GMT -6
HilarityEnsued - those are good points. I think my orginal statement has to do with getting away with hand slaps because he's a white dude. I'm glad he's the voice for those who follow him. I'm always for white folks speaking to other white folks about these matters. My pause with him has more to do with the passes he gets because of his whiteness. The dude has used the N word in many of his lyrics. Yet, here he is advocating for black folks and poc? Shoving it to the president. Same with bill maher, he used the N word and liberals everywhere say "he's an ally". Like I said, I see things through different sets of life eyes. which is why I'm critical of him - especially because he's the epidemy of white supremacy in this country. That's why I said he doesn't get a pass. I don't see things as well let's see the positives of the potential outcome. I can't. I can't turn that off. I see a dude who gets to call people the N word and he's still cool and telling truths out here.
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 9:59:28 GMT -6
Had Eminem come out and said and declared his privilege and called out the ways he has benefited from his whitness. Then all the people that follow him could have Benefited from that. Had he come out and said "I am the problem" "I am white supremacy" then I would be singing a different tune.
He just made it about himself and how he was going to shove it uo Donald's ass. Get people to buy his record.
I don't buy it.
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 10:08:37 GMT -6
This is why I get frustrated with ally posts on social media.
A lot of what I'm seeing is Donald tbis Donald that. Republicans this and that. But I haven't seen one post where they go "damn, I'm the problem" Not me, I voted for Hillary.
Sorry for ranting guys. Im just in a place where I'm just angry all the time. I'm tired at hearing the same stuff over and over from allies that isn't anything new.
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Post by miawallace on Oct 11, 2017 11:05:27 GMT -6
Srs question.. it seems like the term "ally" is now a not nice, somewhat dirty/rude word. Am I right? It seems like it has. I'm part of a Chicano group on Facebook and we certainly use the word ally/allies in most of our discussion to express frustration with white liberals. For the record, I haven't heard people call themselves allies in real life. It's mostly online.
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Post by sterling on Oct 11, 2017 11:06:17 GMT -6
Humor break. R/T @mikedrucker “My name is Mike Pence, And I’m here to say- Protesting is bad- Every day. Word to my wife, Mother!” -Eminem getting crushed tomorrow Word to my wife, Mother. /ded
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Post by mack on Oct 11, 2017 11:12:16 GMT -6
HilarityEnsued - those are good points. I think my orginal statement has to do with getting away with hand slaps because he's a white dude. I'm glad he's the voice for those who follow him. I'm always for white folks speaking to other white folks about these matters. My pause with him has more to do with the passes he gets because of his whiteness. The dude has used the N word in many of his lyrics. Yet, here he is advocating for black folks and poc? Shoving it to the president. Same with bill maher, he used the N word and liberals everywhere say "he's an ally". Like I said, I see things through different sets of life eyes. which is why I'm critical of him - especially because he's the epidemy of white supremacy in this country. That's why I said he doesn't get a pass. I don't see things as well let's see the positives of the potential outcome. I can't. I can't turn that off. I see a dude who gets to call people the N word and he's still cool and telling truths out here. You are making a lot of good points. But if he is going to get the benefit of white privilege, he might as well put it to good use? If he is truly trying to stand up, that is and not just sell records. At least for once, someone can use white privilege to help others. That might be a naive way of looking at it, though.
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