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Post by byjove on Oct 12, 2017 7:59:30 GMT -6
How do things keep getting worse week after week?
When I see American flags lately, I feel nauseous :/
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 12, 2017 8:05:01 GMT -6
Everything he does is transactional. there is no immediate ROI on PR for him so its obviously a 'bad' deal to him.
I honestly think he is a narcissist. I dont say that just because hes an asshole. But he obviously lacks any empathy. He can occasionally fake it but there is a disconnect.
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 8:08:50 GMT -6
I think it's pure racism.
I don't think he actually cares about government spending. He thinks these people don't deserve our help. They should be grateful we did anything for them. They want hand outs. They're lazy and ungrateful and can't do anything for themselves. It is racism.
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 8:13:45 GMT -6
I really don't think anything is about money for him, actually.
He cares about
A. what people think of him. So all he cares about with his disaster response is how HE is perceived to be handling it. Not what he's actually doing to help.
B. Racism/isolationism/"America first" which really means "white America first"
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 8:16:41 GMT -6
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 8:17:03 GMT -6
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Post by fatpony on Oct 12, 2017 8:22:43 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 12, 2017 8:22:55 GMT -6
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Post by goldenlove on Oct 12, 2017 8:26:06 GMT -6
So how does it typically work with FEMA relief? I honestly don't know so I'm curious. Do they stay for years during recovery or just the initial relief efforts and hand it off the the local government after that? Or something else?
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 8:48:12 GMT -6
I keep seeing/hearing people saying, "There's ocean water all around California! Just put out the fire with ocean water!" Yeah, you can't do that. The salinity would be terrible for the ecosystem. So please, if you see someone making that suggestion, tell them that it's not that simple.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 8:49:22 GMT -6
So how does it typically work with FEMA relief? I honestly don't know so I'm curious. Do they stay for years during recovery or just the initial relief efforts and hand it off the the local government after that? Or something else? Their technical role is to coordinate disaster relief and recovery efforts with and between state and local governments. It's just that the entirety of PR was affected to catastrophic levels, so it's not as simple as, say, San Juan sending people inland.
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 8:56:11 GMT -6
So how does it typically work with FEMA relief? I honestly don't know so I'm curious. Do they stay for years during recovery or just the initial relief efforts and hand it off the the local government after that? Or something else? Their major role is to provide funding, so while they may set up temporary housing units, they're not on the ground rebuilding for years. They're assessing damage and coordinating a local response in the immediate aftermath. Providing people and governments with financial assistance. But three weeks is hardly enough time for them to have done the work they should after such a catastrophic disaster.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 8:58:58 GMT -6
So how does it typically work with FEMA relief? I honestly don't know so I'm curious. Do they stay for years during recovery or just the initial relief efforts and hand it off the the local government after that? Or something else? Their major role is to provide funding, so while they may set up temporary housing units, they're not on the ground rebuilding for years. They're assessing damage and coordinating a local response in the immediate aftermath. Providing people and governments with financial assistance. But three weeks is hardly enough time for them to have done the work they should after such a catastrophic disaster. especially when the recovery effort started late and slow, and is complicated by big water and ocean water.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 9:06:58 GMT -6
well, during Katrina, FEMA was authorized to respond on August 27 and Mike Brown resigned on September 12, which was still early in the process. So this is in no way unprecedented.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 9:07:52 GMT -6
also this timeline nicely lays out just how horribly Katrina was handled by our government. It is infuriating, but I think it's really important to see the level of incompetence and indifference that was at play. thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline-90ec8a71fb99/
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 9:09:36 GMT -6
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Post by JukEboX on Oct 12, 2017 9:16:23 GMT -6
Morning All,
So this scared the crap out of me. Local NPR station was talking about the series of events of what would happen if NK fired a missile. And he was really descriptive which kind of scared me (don't you think some of this should be secret? I mean the guy pretty much told me every little detail). Anyway they then started talking about the legality of Trump being able to use the nuclear triad. They then brought up the point that back in 50s there was never a peace agreement signed so Korea and us are still technically at war. Based on that effect and legislation started by Truman which allows for full access and control by the president to have first strike capability, I can see this scenario playing out:
North Korea does some kind of test. Trump see it as a threat and goes off the deep end like he does. First Nuke. North korea sees this and hits Tokyo and Seoul. Trump justifies the action and explaining he does not to need to go to Congress based on there was never an end to the Korean war and He was in his writes to fire anything at anytime.
That creeps me right the fuck out.
Not to mention any new laws that allow us to continue and perpetual war. Fuck that.
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 9:19:38 GMT -6
One bright spot about the EO is that they're not allowing AHPs in the individual market.
This thread is really encouraging in explaining that EOs can't actually change laws immediately.
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 9:32:25 GMT -6
Here's the next big women's rights champion, ladies.
🙄😡
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 9:43:30 GMT -6
Morning All, So this scared the crap out of me. Local NPR station was talking about the series of events of what would happen if NK fired a missile. And he was really descriptive which kind of scared me (don't you think some of this should be secret? I mean the guy pretty much told me every little detail). Anyway they then started talking about the legality of Trump being able to use the nuclear triad. They then brought up the point that back in 50s there was never a peace agreement signed so Korea and us are still technically at war. Based on that effect and legislation started by Truman which allows for full access and control by the president to have first strike capability, I can see this scenario playing out: North Korea does some kind of test. Trump see it as a threat and goes off the deep end like he does. First Nuke. North korea sees this and hits Tokyo and Seoul. Trump justifies the action and explaining he does not to need to go to Congress based on there was never an end to the Korean war and He was in his writes to fire anything at anytime. That creeps me right the fuck out. Not to mention any new laws that allow us to continue and perpetual war. Fuck that. Not sure whether this will make you feel better or worse, but Kelly, Mattis and McMaster have plans and practice for what to do if Trump literally "lunges for the football."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 10:01:01 GMT -6
I keep seeing/hearing people saying, "There's ocean water all around California! Just put out the fire with ocean water!" Yeah, you can't do that. The salinity would be terrible for the ecosystem. So please, if you see someone making that suggestion, tell them that it's not that simple. When I lived outside of CA, I had to educate many people on wildfires as a natural disaster. There is a lot of misunderstanding about why we don’t just “put the fires out”.
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Post by silverspoon on Oct 12, 2017 10:02:07 GMT -6
Morning All, So this scared the crap out of me. Local NPR station was talking about the series of events of what would happen if NK fired a missile. And he was really descriptive which kind of scared me (don't you think some of this should be secret? I mean the guy pretty much told me every little detail). Anyway they then started talking about the legality of Trump being able to use the nuclear triad. They then brought up the point that back in 50s there was never a peace agreement signed so Korea and us are still technically at war. Based on that effect and legislation started by Truman which allows for full access and control by the president to have first strike capability, I can see this scenario playing out: North Korea does some kind of test. Trump see it as a threat and goes off the deep end like he does. First Nuke. North korea sees this and hits Tokyo and Seoul. Trump justifies the action and explaining he does not to need to go to Congress based on there was never an end to the Korean war and He was in his writes to fire anything at anytime. That creeps me right the fuck out. Not to mention any new laws that allow us to continue and perpetual war. Fuck that. Not sure whether this will make you feel better or worse, but Kelly, Mattis and McMaster have plans and practice for what to do if Trump literally "lunges for the football." What are they going to do? Hold it over their heads out of the reach of his tiny hands? I mean, just what the fuck even is this White House. I know, I *KNOW*
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Post by crimsonandclover on Oct 12, 2017 10:03:01 GMT -6
This is big. I had colleagues who were in the Palestinian territories monitoring those elections and they said how shocked people were that Hamas had won. I could actually see this going both ways. Gaza Strip has been such a hellhole because the Qassam Brigade (Hamas's militant wing) has refused to stop firing rockets into Israel on a regular basis, leading to a complete blockade by Israel. And while conditions in the West Bank are better because Fatah generally advocates negotiations, I don't know what this unity will bring. Israel could reduce it to the lowest common denominator - Hamas bombs us, you're unifying with Hamas, so we will treat you like we treat them. And if Hamas refuses to stop the Qassam Brigade (which is what the analyses I've read have said so far), then I can't actually imagine Israel handling it any differently. In theory if Hamas were willing to go more moderate and stop the militant actions, then things could turn out better for both territories. I'm not optimistic, though, because conditions in the Gaza Strip are so miserable and Israeli retaliatory actions there have been so devastating (basically bulldozing entire neighborhoods if one person from the neighborhood was caught in a terrorist act) that I don't think the population would be willing to just "forgive and forget" and back off support for the militants. Getting the EU to monitor the Gaza Strip's border crossings might be a good step (again, I read that that has been discussed), but I don't know if Israel will feel comfortable with that. Their security on those crossings is a bit more, um, intense than anything the EU would do, I would imagine. This is all personal opinion, though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 10:03:16 GMT -6
Here's the next big women's rights champion, ladies. 🙄😡
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 10:04:41 GMT -6
So along the lines of what is happening in PR and also the CA fires. It’s a additional test to see how Cheeto responds.
Things PR and CA have in common: did not vote for him, lots of brown people
Things PR and CA don’t have in common: money. The area devastated in CA will cause a huge economic shortfall for the state and country.
So, if he shows more concern for CA, it’s about money. If he is the same, it’s about race and politics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 10:05:10 GMT -6
Here's the next big women's rights champion, ladies. 🙄😡 Perfection.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 10:07:44 GMT -6
So along the lines of what is happening in PR and also the CA fires. It’s a additional test to see how Cheeto responds. Things PR and CA have in common: did not vote for him, lots of brown people Things PR and CA don’t have in common: money. The area devastated in CA will cause a huge economic shortfall for the state and country. So, if he shows more concern for CA, it’s about money. If he is the same, it’s about race and politics. lovetit for your accuracy and insight
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2017 10:09:06 GMT -6
crimsonandclover,thank you. I always appreciate your analysis. I felt optimistic reading the Post article, but Netanyahu makes me nervous.
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Post by pesto on Oct 12, 2017 10:18:29 GMT -6
Ummm
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 10:24:25 GMT -6
Yikes. I don’t think my disaster plan covers super volcanoes.
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