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Post by enchanted on Oct 11, 2017 8:44:18 GMT -6
Trump's morning tweet dump includes potentially threatening network licenses... because that happens in a normal, healthy democracy... $&$&@&-@&$&$-#-@-$-$#--@&@&$@-@-$&&@&$#-@-$&@&$:$-@-@-#$-#:@-$-@:#-$: And that is the most coherent I can be.
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Post by byjove on Oct 11, 2017 9:01:35 GMT -6
Someone school me. If he takes out preexisting conditions, the thought process is it will decrease premiums? It's a very popular part of the ACA correct (?) So what is his motivation for doing it other than insurance companies hate it? It will lower the cost to the insurer which should, in theory, lower premium costs to those without pre-existing conditions, but it will dramatically raise premiums on those with pre-existing conditions, or they simply won't be offered coverage at all. Yes, it is a very popular part of the ACA because nobody wants to be charged 10x as much for healthcare because they happened to be born with asthma. There is no other motivation. The insurance companies said that covering PEC is hurting their bottom line so they tell him to do away with those guardrails. He will stand up and point to the four people who had their premiums lowered and applaud his fantastic dealmaking (nevermind the fact that he insisted that he wouldn't touch patient guardrails). And also, my family is fucked. I don't know if this has been mentioned (I'm just catching up), but being a woman is basically a pre-existing condition in and of itself. RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My family is also seriously screwed.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2017 9:11:10 GMT -6
So he is supposed to meet with Trudeau today. Is there any way we can get a message to the PM to PLEASE stage a takeover of our country? I know Canada has its problems but impending nuclear war isnt one of them. I hope Trudeau drags him across the coals for the fact that several Canadians were killed in Las Vegas.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Oct 11, 2017 9:41:57 GMT -6
Speaking of Trudeau...
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Post by pesto on Oct 11, 2017 10:12:30 GMT -6
Oh my GOD. it's not meeting alone with women that's the fucking problem! It's sexually harassing and assaulting women when you meet alone with them! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE.
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Post by pesto on Oct 11, 2017 10:15:29 GMT -6
Using this as a way to both deny women career opportunities and victim-blame/paint men as these uncontrollable beasts who just can't help themselves when in the presence of a female has my blood boiling.
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Post by byjove on Oct 11, 2017 10:18:25 GMT -6
Oh my GOD. it's not meeting alone with women that's the fucking problem! It's sexually harassing and assaulting women when you meet alone with them! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. There is something going around FB about treating women like you would The Rock. While I liked the positive tone they used about women being successful in the business place, the explanation of what the men "were thinking" was appalling and made my blood boil. Do men really think like that? Can they really not be trusted when alone with a woman. For real life?
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Post by pesto on Oct 11, 2017 10:24:43 GMT -6
Oh my GOD. it's not meeting alone with women that's the fucking problem! It's sexually harassing and assaulting women when you meet alone with them! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. There is something going around FB about treating women like you would The Rock. While I liked the positive tone they used about women being successful in the business place, the explanation of what the men "were thinking" was appalling and made my blood boil. Do men really think like that? Can they really not be trusted when alone with a woman. For real life? I haven't seen this but my first reaction is... How about treating women like human beings and not sexual objects? Wtf @thinking of them as the Rock.
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Post by byjove on Oct 11, 2017 10:28:59 GMT -6
There is something going around FB about treating women like you would The Rock. While I liked the positive tone they used about women being successful in the business place, the explanation of what the men "were thinking" was appalling and made my blood boil. Do men really think like that? Can they really not be trusted when alone with a woman. For real life? I haven't seen this but my first reaction is... How about treating women like human beings and not sexual objects? Wtf @thinking of them as the Rock. Well that part was actually ok to me. It was like all the bad ass adjectives you would apply to the rock should be how you are thinking about the women. Let me find it. medium.com/@annevictoriaclark/the-rock-test-a-hack-for-men-who-dont-want-to-be-accused-of-sexual-harassment-73c45e0b49af
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Post by piratecat on Oct 11, 2017 10:30:57 GMT -6
Oh my GOD. it's not meeting alone with women that's the fucking problem! It's sexually harassing and assaulting women when you meet alone with them! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. How about just being decent human beings? It's really not that hard?! That said, I don't ever want to be in the same room as these idiots, period.
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Post by pesto on Oct 11, 2017 10:31:10 GMT -6
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Post by pesto on Oct 11, 2017 10:37:22 GMT -6
Bernie again?? I wish they'd choose a Democrat. And why aren't these debates happening on the Senate floor?
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Oct 11, 2017 10:47:35 GMT -6
Oh my GOD. it's not meeting alone with women that's the fucking problem! It's sexually harassing and assaulting women when you meet alone with them! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. Shouldn't most men be furious at the implication that they can't have a meeting with a woman without raping her?
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Post by cakewench on Oct 11, 2017 10:50:59 GMT -6
Fuck Jerry Jones and his micromanaging, Trump ass-kissing bullshit:
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Oct 11, 2017 10:52:46 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 10:56:43 GMT -6
Oh my GOD. it's not meeting alone with women that's the fucking problem! It's sexually harassing and assaulting women when you meet alone with them! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. How about just being decent human beings? It's really not that hard?! That said, I don't ever want to be in the same room as these idiots, period. This. Its not hard, we start teaching TWO YEAR OLDS keep your hands to yourself. That really doesn't have an expiration date upon adulthood.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 11:05:56 GMT -6
I have to retrieve my eyeballs at that “The Rock” thing. I know the point, but fuck. It’s 2017.
It’s insulting to men and women that this needs to be written. I’m depressed.
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Post by piccyami on Oct 11, 2017 11:09:48 GMT -6
I'm pretty positive I've heard some of this trickled out over the past while, but it's been mostly ignored, thanks to the chaos that was Bentley and now Ivey and everything else going on in DC. Basically, we're all aware of this guy, and people apparently think he's the best to represent our state. Because, you know, we need to bring religion back into law.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 11:23:05 GMT -6
NBC isn't licensed by the US government. Just FYI. It's an empty threat in that regards. Although I'm sure he would if he could.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 11:26:15 GMT -6
Kelly's deputy who he brought to the WH, Kjerstin Nielsen, is going to be nominated as DHS secretary.
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Post by athn64 on Oct 11, 2017 11:26:29 GMT -6
Grrr. This thread was really informative though. Of course this will cost insurance costs to skyrocket...
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Post by justkeepmoving on Oct 11, 2017 11:33:22 GMT -6
So for a sliver of good news; the Boy Scouts will admit girls to cub scouts and allow older girls to become Eagle Scouts
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 11:36:53 GMT -6
Dont you all realize that the first amendment isnt as important as the second?
Its actually pretty scary. We have a leader who unfortunately people like, starting a movement to shut people up that disagree. Not just the de-legitimizing of press, but the whole NFL thing, degrading public officials, etc. These are not things that should be in a presidential lane. He should not be talking from the podium about what a consequence for an NFL player is. He should not be name calling a mayor in the midst of a very serious disaster. He should not be making up trite nicknames for elected officials. He should not be deciding what is 'fake' news and announcing it. Its beneath this country as a whole. And yet here we are.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2017 11:59:53 GMT -6
Kelly's deputy who he brought to the WH, Kjerstin Nielsen, is going to be nominated as DHS secretary. I'll try to suppress my shock
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2017 12:06:47 GMT -6
well, NBC broadcast stations are technically licensed by the FCC. But the FCC couldn't/wouldn't just shut down NBC Universal in its entirety. That's a ridiculous thread. Also, the FCC has been quite clear over the years that it strictly adheres to the provisions of the first amendment.
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Post by athn64 on Oct 11, 2017 12:11:19 GMT -6
well, NBC broadcast stations are technically licensed by the FCC. But the FCC couldn't/wouldn't just shut down NBC Universal in its entirety. That's a ridiculous thread. Also, the FCC has been quite clear over the years that it strictly adheres to the provisions of the first amendment. It's hard to keep faith in any federal commission when Trump is replacing all the heads with mony grubbing idiots. I still don't see the free press going anywhere, but it's very troubling to have a threat like this out there.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6
Turnip just stated he knows what is best for American and ultimately the world.
Also there is confusion as to when he had lunch with Rex. T says last week, WH says yesterday.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 11, 2017 12:27:24 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 11, 2017 12:32:40 GMT -6
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Post by Uncaripswife on Oct 11, 2017 12:33:09 GMT -6
It will truly cause the death spiral that the right keeps saying has already begun (it hasn't). Premiums in the assoc plans will be low because they won't cover sick/old people. They'll be like the shitty skinny med plans that were outlawed by the ACA. Those with pre exes will have to stay on the exchanges. They'll become de facto high risk pools with astronomical premiums. Tax dollars will be needed to prop them up. Their costs will be crushing and...death spiral. Insurance has historically been regulated by each individual state. Who is going to regulate an interstate association plan? HHS? Not under this administration. I have so much anger and frustration about this.
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