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Post by jkjacq on Oct 10, 2017 16:34:11 GMT -6
STAHP!!!! Its like someone gave them a shovel and they threw away and are using a backhoe.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 10, 2017 16:36:35 GMT -6
STAHP!!!! Its like someone gave them a shovel and they threw away and are using a backhoe. Nunes is like the worst criminal ever. He's like that guy who broke into a Chili's, made a snack, cleaned up and walked out
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Oct 10, 2017 16:53:55 GMT -6
Can't we just buy him his own little uninhabited island with about 5sq miles and let him be king? He would be SO happy. He could have TrumpTV and it would be all positive news all the time about him. and the rest of the world could breathe easier. Very late, but this reminded me of this tweet. There is probably a way to turn this into the Truman Show.
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Post by pesto on Oct 10, 2017 16:59:59 GMT -6
Grocery stores and hospitals provide human services that society couldn't function without though - food and healthcare. I don't think NFL stadiums are in the same category. Albertsons Corporate, not the individual stores and Micron has pulled most of production (computer stuff) and sent it overseas and mostly does R&D here. At one point Micron was the valleys largest employer, when they sent production overseas it had a huge impact on the community. When Idaho had personal property tax for businesses, (until 2012/3) they were exempt but the little company I work for paid thousands in pp taxes every year. But they are still employing people besides the players. And those people are paying into the local economy so a stadium can have the same impact a computer chip manufacturer. Its all interconnected. And for now the NFL is big business and a stadium can mean a lot of things for a community But the idea that sports stadiums bring in lots of economic growth is actually very untrue. Many stadiums are not built in city centers - meaning they're out in the suburbs surrounded by parking lots. Even in Detroit the stadiums downtown have led to an excess of parking lots. So instead of businesses or residential areas you just have acres and acres of empty lots. It's also been found that people don't travel far for sports games - so while the attendees of an event might go eat at a restaurant they don't stay in hotels or add revenue any other way. They're also only coming from nearby towns, so they're local people serving the local economy - which they would do whether they were going to a sports game or not. Sports stadiums are also only in season for so much of the year, then they have to try to function as a concert venue or what have you - which any stadium in a big city will have a ton of competition in that area so they generally don't do well. So cities end up with these long term financial obligations to pay off sports arenas that they aren't getting any revenue from.
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Post by pesto on Oct 10, 2017 17:11:35 GMT -6
Fuck
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:19:37 GMT -6
Someone school me. If he takes out preexisting conditions, the thought process is it will decrease premiums? It's a very popular part of the ACA correct (?) So what is his motivation for doing it other than insurance companies hate it?
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Post by charlotte on Oct 10, 2017 17:20:52 GMT -6
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Post by athn64 on Oct 10, 2017 17:32:41 GMT -6
Shit. That will screw so many people over. Myself included
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Post by fatpony on Oct 10, 2017 17:33:56 GMT -6
The fuck. So DACA is illegal because it’s an EO, but this is fine. He can fuck off.
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Post by pesto on Oct 10, 2017 17:37:48 GMT -6
The fuck. So DACA is illegal because it’s an EO, but this is fine. He can fuck off. I think the ACLU will go after this. I hope.
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Post by athn64 on Oct 10, 2017 17:42:53 GMT -6
The fuck. So DACA is illegal because it’s an EO, but this is fine. He can fuck off. I think the ACLU will go after this. I hope. I'm sure they will. The only issue is if we see any results.
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Post by enchanted on Oct 10, 2017 17:43:15 GMT -6
GFDI. It would suck anyway because it screws so many millions of people, but pre-existing conditions is us.
45 can go fuck himself with a sandpaper dildo.
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Post by oreobitsy on Oct 10, 2017 17:47:57 GMT -6
There's no way Trump has no pre-existing conditions himself.
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Post by pesto on Oct 10, 2017 17:49:18 GMT -6
There's no way Trump has no pre-existing conditions himself. He's the healthiest president to EVER BE ELECTED remember?
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Post by athn64 on Oct 10, 2017 17:49:32 GMT -6
The fuck. So DACA is illegal because it’s an EO, but this is fine. He can fuck off. He's been cherry picking since the very beginning. It's so obviously unpopular so obviously he has to do it.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 10, 2017 18:00:07 GMT -6
The fuck. So DACA is illegal because it’s an EO, but this is fine. He can fuck off. I think the ACLU will go after this. I hope. They already are with birth control so I assume they already have pre ex ready to go as well
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Post by pianolove on Oct 10, 2017 18:25:04 GMT -6
This basically sums up how I feel today
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 18:59:54 GMT -6
What the fucking fuck
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Post by silverspoon on Oct 10, 2017 19:13:51 GMT -6
This is a more accurate summation of my feels
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 10, 2017 19:15:15 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 10, 2017 19:42:00 GMT -6
The Rep from Wisconsin (Duffy) is saying the House has sent 300 bills to the Senate and the Senate hasnt done squat with them. Anyone know if thats factual or is Duffy just trying to get a mention from turnip? It is true that the House has reported 335 bills. It looks like basically everything the House has passed is tied up in committee in the senate
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Post by dc2london on Oct 10, 2017 19:51:04 GMT -6
Someone school me. If he takes out preexisting conditions, the thought process is it will decrease premiums? It's a very popular part of the ACA correct (?) So what is his motivation for doing it other than insurance companies hate it? It will lower the cost to the insurer which should, in theory, lower premium costs to those without pre-existing conditions, but it will dramatically raise premiums on those with pre-existing conditions, or they simply won't be offered coverage at all. Yes, it is a very popular part of the ACA because nobody wants to be charged 10x as much for healthcare because they happened to be born with asthma. There is no other motivation. The insurance companies said that covering PEC is hurting their bottom line so they tell him to do away with those guardrails. He will stand up and point to the four people who had their premiums lowered and applaud his fantastic dealmaking (nevermind the fact that he insisted that he wouldn't touch patient guardrails). And also, my family is fucked.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Oct 10, 2017 19:56:29 GMT -6
I am regretting some medical testing I had done recently. Nothing serious was found, but I'm pretty sure my records now have a couple of life long pre-existing conditions. Fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:00:02 GMT -6
I have no words. This is devastating.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 10, 2017 20:03:53 GMT -6
This is going to be wildly unpopular with Americans on both sides of the aisle.
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Post by morecoffeeplease on Oct 10, 2017 20:03:57 GMT -6
cribs, I remember reading about someone denied coverage because they went to a derm for ACNE. Like, I am lucky that my stuff doesn't affect my day to day. I am "healthy". But now that its on my medical records, who the hell knows what will happen?
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Post by charlotte on Oct 10, 2017 20:05:56 GMT -6
See, like reading your post morecoffeeplease, I just think about all of the people who won’t seek mental or physical care for fear of being labeled with pre-existing conditions.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 10, 2017 20:07:24 GMT -6
omg no. Pence was ostensibly attending the Colts game to ceremonially retire Peyton Manning's number? Peyton Manning the sexual assailant? Is this real life?
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Post by dc2london on Oct 10, 2017 20:10:52 GMT -6
Sorry if that was insensitive. Im so ducking over constantly worrying about insurance. I didn't find it insensitive. It's natural for all of us to think about how this will affect our own families.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:17:36 GMT -6
I have no words. This is devastating. My two expensive kiddos are on our state's plan. They said they would continue coverage for their stuff. That's stopping my full blown anxiety attack You are in the right state for this stuff. And it fucking sucks that some states will just allow the insurance companies to fuck their people over.
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