This Is Us 10/3

[thechickencoop]

And I love Kate's relationship with Jack.

[thechickencoop]

Oct 3, 2017 20:35:28 GMT -6 budders said:

H was bored this episode too. I cried a few times, but i found some of the subject matter resonated with me a lot. My mom is an alcoholic (currently in sobriety) and the scenes with Jack and Kate revolving around that topic really made me feel things. I also feel like these moments between them are starting to lead us to why Kate feels responsible for her dad’s death.

Also, is that the first time that we learned Jack was in Vietnam? I can’t remember if they alluded to that last season.

I don't remember this either. Wouldn't it have been before he met Rebecca? Or no? What year were the kids born again?

[tatorhead328]

Oct 4, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -6 thechickencoop said:

Oct 3, 2017 20:35:28 GMT -6 budders said:

H was bored this episode too. I cried a few times, but i found some of the subject matter resonated with me a lot. My mom is an alcoholic (currently in sobriety) and the scenes with Jack and Kate revolving around that topic really made me feel things. I also feel like these moments between them are starting to lead us to why Kate feels responsible for her dad’s death.

Also, is that the first time that we learned Jack was in Vietnam? I can’t remember if they alluded to that last season.

I don't remember this either. Wouldn't it have been before he met Rebecca? Or no? What year were the kids born again?

He said in the last episode that he was just a mechanic so he didn't really see any war. I think that scene with him getting out of the helicopter was supposed to be an ahhhhh so he did see some shit moment.

[tatorhead328]

Oct 4, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -6 thechickencoop said:

Oct 3, 2017 20:35:28 GMT -6 budders said:

H was bored this episode too. I cried a few times, but i found some of the subject matter resonated with me a lot. My mom is an alcoholic (currently in sobriety) and the scenes with Jack and Kate revolving around that topic really made me feel things. I also feel like these moments between them are starting to lead us to why Kate feels responsible for her dad’s death.

Also, is that the first time that we learned Jack was in Vietnam? I can’t remember if they alluded to that last season.

I don't remember this either. Wouldn't it have been before he met Rebecca? Or no? What year were the kids born again?

Oh and yes, before Rebecca. When he was fixing the old lady's car and she was wanting to set him up on a date, she said something about how he came back from the war so much nicer than the other guys.

[sweetc129]

Oct 3, 2017 20:11:22 GMT -6 NamasteBirches said:

I'm also meh on the fostering storyline. It's feeling very random to me.

I don't think anything in this show is random though and think this will come back to something awesome.

Also, I think we are only at the tip of the iceberg with the Kate/Mom thing and we are suppose to feel a certain way about their relationship and how each of them are responding to each other and it'll all come back around.

Hopefully I don't have too much faith in this show because how awesome season 1 was and now it's just going to be a let down.

[sweetc129]

Oct 4, 2017 11:22:02 GMT -6 tatorhead328 said:

Oct 4, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -6 thechickencoop said:

I don't remember this either. Wouldn't it have been before he met Rebecca? Or no? What year were the kids born again?

He said in the last episode that he was just a mechanic so he didn't really see any war. I think that scene with him getting out of the helicopter was supposed to be an ahhhhh so he did see some shit moment.

This is my grandfather to a T in regards to WWII. He was always "I was just a bookkeeper and didn't see anything", then you'd have a random conversation about Iwo Jima and it was all like, um grandpa that is some shit. He felt like it wasn't like the real front line guys though who did and saw it every day in and out, so he dismissed it and didn't want anybody thinking he was in the same tier or something. I suspect that is what jack experienced in Vietnam. 

[junch817]

Apparently I missed this mention of Vietnam last night. What happened?

[thechickencoop]

Oct 4, 2017 11:23:17 GMT -6 tatorhead328 said:

Oct 4, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -6 thechickencoop said:

I don't remember this either. Wouldn't it have been before he met Rebecca? Or no? What year were the kids born again?

Oh and yes, before Rebecca. When he was fixing the old lady's car and she was wanting to set him up on a date, she said something about how he came back from the war so much nicer than the other guys.

Ahhh ok. I vaguely remember this.

[milano]

Oct 4, 2017 12:58:53 GMT -6 junch817 said:

Apparently I missed this mention of Vietnam last night. What happened?

It was a really brief flashback for Jack at the very end of the episode that just showed him getting out of a helicopter with a gun, in a military uniform. Like 3 total seconds.

[tatorhead328]

I was really frustrated with Kate in this episode. It's like her mom couldn't do anything right. I hated her telling her mom that just her existence was the problem. That was just... shitty. Kate's issues are her own. We never saw any indication that her mom was being crappy in those flashbacks. She was excited for her! And annoying like moms are! It just bothers me because yes, you get sensitive about stuff like that when you're a kid, but you usually grow up and realize that this is your own sensitivity and not because of your mother. Kate needs to grow up.

(I'm also lol'ing at the "who decides to pursue this career at 36?" because I was thinking the same thing.)

[dragonflyinn]

Oct 4, 2017 8:40:41 GMT -6 mrsrgosling said:

Oct 4, 2017 5:24:43 GMT -6 budders said:

I think it was because her mom had just told her that she was the best singer in the house, and then she walked in on her clearly singing the song much better than she could. I think she felt like her mom was lying to her, or being disingenuous in her praise of her.

I hadn't thought about it that way. It makes sense, but I still think Kate might be being a little high maintenance in that regard. I feel like Rebecca really is trying, but Kate won't give her the chance...

I see both sides to this. I felt so bad for Rebecca when Kate was throwing all that blame on her, “because you exist!!” Like soooo unfair. And I’d feel so hurt if DD ever came at me like that. I think we can all agree Rebecca wasn’t perfect at all but I do see her trying (even young Rebecca tried so hard) and Kate is being a bit sensitive. Also I think she grew up thinking her dad was perfect and mom was the problem, so I liked that Jack opened her eyes a bit ya the end.

Also remember the thanksgiving episode? Rebecca’s parents were psycho perfectionists so seems to me Rebecca is tame compared to who she came from.

[icedcoffee]

I agree I found myself sympathizing more with Rebecca than Kate this episode, which is kind of backwards for me. I kept waiting for some smoking gun, some dickhead thing that Rebecca did when Kate was younger, but that never really happened. I'm not really sure what I was supposed to get out of all that honestly. I loved all the other dynamics of the episode though

[mrsweasley]

One of the episodes last season Kate was comparing the sizes of her and her mom's clothes and was upset. There was a thing with food too and Kate was given something different than her brothers, like she was on a diet or something. I wonder if they'll make a connection between Kate feeling inadequate compared to her mom starting with being an overweight kid and connecting to the singing, like she can never compete and be as skinny or as good of a singer and is still harboring that hostility

[leatherpants]

I like Toby. He feels very real to me, flaws and all.

Kate was completely unfair to her Rebecca in the end. Which also feels real, and hits a tad close to home for my liking, but oof.

And the Beth/Kevin scene is maybe my favourite scene in the whole series so far.

[reginaphalange8]

I kind of sympathize with Kate but it's uncomfortable to watch for me. I kind of have a similar relationship with my mom in that I feel like she picks on everything. Nothing major happened but it's the sum of all the little things plus my anxiety that catastrophizes it. I'm not saying she's justifies but I understand the feeling.

I wonder too if she thinks Rebecca blames her for Jack's death on some level. I really want to know why Kate thinks it's her fault.

[tgrimes]

I mean, my mother is a total beeotch. I'm sure I over react when she makes some comments that probably don't mean anything, but I take them the wrong way....just because it was her that said it.

I feel like this show constantly changes perspectives and shows insights on character traits/personalities. One episode I feel for a certain character and the next I'm pissed at them. lol.

[bellatrix]

I enjoyed this episode.

I loved "Team Kate forever!"

I'm intrigued to see where the fostering goes. Next week looks like it will be good.

Everything with Jack breaks my heart. I really wish I didn't know he dies.

[sullivan]

I like that the Kate/Rebecca dynamic is complicated and nuanced like that. It’s not easy to say outright that one of them is 100% wrong. And I think that’s very realistic.

I imagine a lot of people can relate to the feeling that their mother never really did anything major wrong, per se, but there’s just resentment there from little things all built up. And I’m sure Jacks death added another level of that we might not know yet.

I liked this episode.

[yianna]

I felt meh about this episode too, but considering it's been pretty heavy hitting each week (and I know it was only the second episode of the season), I'm thinking these telling the in between stories will become a constant theme this season.

I'm excited for tonight though - and since last week was just meh, this week I think should hopefully pick up where episode 1 left off!

[redbears]

Oct 3, 2017 20:07:11 GMT -6 allisong said:

I’m just not a fan of the Kate singing storyline.

Agree, plus she isn't even that great of a singer.